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Driver Pulls Gun on Cyclists This Morning

Beach Comber
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This morning at 6:30am I was riding my bike with three friends down 30-a heading west. There were absolutely no cars on the road and we were passing through WaterSound where they have the medians in the middle of the road. A mid-sized pick-up truck honked and then violently swerved around us passing us very closely.

My friend gestured for the driver to come back and talk with us. There was no reason for his aggression so early in the morning. The driver of the metallic orange pickup truck hit his breaks and pulled a black handgun out of his drivers side window and started waving it at us. He then sped away.

I immediately called 911 and we met with two very nice Walton County Police Officers and filed a complaint. The officers were very nice and took the situation very serious and said they have all officers in the area looking for the car.

If anyone sees a mid-sized metallic orange pickup truck with a male driver, please notify the police.

In all of my years riding I have been yelled at, honked at, spit at, had things thrown at me, been run off the road into a ditch, been intentionally hit with a car's mirror, had a Harley sneak up on me and rev his engine to scare me and then laugh at me, two weeks ago had a driver laugh and cheer when we had a cyclist crash...but I have NEVER EVER had a gun pulled on me for riding a bicycle on a Sunday morning.

I am from the west coast and stilll learning about Southern culture...I am still trying to figure out this whole aggression thing towards cyclists...but I am sure this was not a friendly southern gesture.

I could be wrong...maybe it was his way of cheering in awe as he witnessed a life changing athletic performance by some local cyclists. Or maybe it was his way of showing support for our cyclist in Bejing and his reaction at Sammy Sanchez from Spain winning Olympic Gold in the Men's Cycling Road Race yesterday over Americans Levi Leipheimer, George Hincape and Christian Vandevelde! Maybe he was saying, "I am with you brother and I solute you and your athletic acheivements on this beautiful Sunday morning...ride safe and I will lead the way!"

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Allifunn avatar
FunnChef - AlisonCooks.com
#352
It is still alive (and it should be) because it is local news that was in the Walton Sun yet again this week, in addition to it having a good bit of "local color", like one of the posters running for public office and making the really interesting comments on this situation. Biking and the use of roads and the trail are big news here.
IMO the bike path/walking path/running path is a menace. I am throughly amazed that people have not gotten seriously injured. It is too narrow for multi-purpose use. There are many serious cyclists in our area and riding 8 mph (proposed) on a walking path is not condusive to what they are trying to achieve. I used to get mad at 30-A cyclists when I had to veer around them, but now I understand their point. Walking path will tear up their tires and cause damage in many ways. I now practice patience. Is getting somewhere 5 minutes earlier really worth risking someone's life?
I just can not believe that FG is still trying to defend the actions of the truck driver....:shock:
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#353
Has anyone else noticed the number of cars/trucks with that orangey color?

Afunn...:clap:
Allifunn avatar
FunnChef - AlisonCooks.com
#354
Has anyone else noticed the number of cars/trucks with that orangey color?
I cringe every time I see an orange truck down here....:shock: Told Toots that just yesterday!
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#355
IMO the bike path/walking path/running path is a menace. I am throughly amazed that people have not gotten seriously injured. It is too narrow for multi-purpose use.

I grew up in an area w/ a multi-use path that is narrower in many places than the path along 30-A. It is used by bikers of all abilities, walkers, runners (though often they ran on the grass next to it) roller bladers, and in several areas - fisherman!

It isn't the path width that's the problem! It's people's inability to share it and use common sense!
Allifunn avatar
FunnChef - AlisonCooks.com
#356
I grew up in an area w/ a multi-use path that is narrower in many places than the path along 30-A. It is used by bikers of all abilities, walkers, runners (though often they ran on the grass next to it) roller bladers, and in several areas - fisherman!

It isn't the path width that's the problem! It's people's inability to share it and use common sense!
Was it a tourist area?
I agree that it is not the width of the path...but a wider path could allow better flow. I have been walking on the path, and kids pass me...they freak out when they have to pass someone on such a narrow path....what would they do if it were a cyclist?
Sad thing is....it is, and always will be, an on going problem, until someone gets seriously injured. JMHO
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#357
It wasn't a tourist area like here, but it was used by a broad segment of the population and a constantly changing population because a portion of it was near the college.

We rode and rollerbladed on it as little kids and as we speak a neighbor is pedaling to work on it sporting a dress shirt, bike shorts, dress socks, and dress shoes! He's a judge so the robe hides the spandex at work! :blink:
Beach ComberAuthor
#358
It wasn't a tourist area like here, but it was used by a broad segment of the population and a constantly changing population because a portion of it was near the college.

We rode and rollerbladed on it as little kids and as we speak a neighbor is pedaling to work on it sporting a dress shirt, bike shorts, dress socks, and dress shoes! He's a judge so the robe hides the spandex at work! :blink:

I used to live in an area with a miles of those trails too. Used to rollerblade them frequently. Rode my bike on the narrow trails too. You could go miles without having to cross a road or encounter a car. It was great for families.

Unfortunately, our trails are not conducive to anything more than a walker/jogger and a beach cruiser or two. There is too much sand, broken pavement and blind intersections to make it safe. You are crossing a path of potential vehicle traffic every 20 meters versus every 3-5 miles. Imagine riding from Rosemary to Grayton without having to cross any driveways or streets. That would be nirvana! Or being able to take a trail from Pier Park to San Destin, now that would be better than sliced bread! 😀

When I ride the trail with my daughters I have to ride ahead and check every intersection to make sure they don't get plowed by a car coming out of a driveway. It is not a fun excursion for me.

I have almost hit a few cyclist while pulling out of a driveway onto 30a. You can't see anyone coming until you are in the middle of the path. I feel extra crappy when it happens as I should be extra aware of fellow cyclists.
BeachSteelers avatar
Beach Fanatic
#359
Thankfully they've charged the pistol waver. 6 months cleaning the path might be a good after he serves some real time.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#360
This was a multi-use path/sidewalk like we have here, not a separate trail. You crossed railroad tracks, streets, rode close to a 4-6 lane major road, had potholes/uneven pavement portions, debris, cars backing out etc. It also had dedicated more remote bike paths connecting to it for people who wanted to ride longer distances away from the city.

One portion of it used a residential sidewalk as the path and they made it illegal to ride bikes on the sidewalk because people were riding their racing bikes too fast on the sidewalk and creating problems w/ other users and cars backing out of blind driveways - sound familiar?

A pristine path w/ no hazards whatsoever isn't realistic. A well maintained path that many can enjoy is!
5thGenFlo avatar
Beach Lover
#361
I suspect he thought you were shooting him a bird. Not a friendly move. This is an unincorporated area, people can carry weapons if they want. Secondly, the county went to a lot of trouble building a "BIKE PATH" for the tourists that like to ride bikes. Most native Walton countians don't ride bikes, too many miles just to get anywhere. Most vehicles that drive on highways have to be street legal, ie, lights and the ability to drive the speed limit. Highway 30A is a narrow road without any shoulder, and riding a bicycle in the middle of the highway is dangerous, inconsiderate, and very irritating. When I see a cyclist in the middle of the road, I think, why did the county put in a bike path? What, do they think they own the road? They have to much leisure time on there hands! And when they don't move out of the way, they have just made a statement that they don't care about anyone else on the highway, or where the vehicles have to go. They are on vacation, and to heck with the rest of the world!
florida girl, I understand that you're voicing the growing pains of a small community getting larger. And, I understand that you are but one voice in a quieter chorus of disgruntled dwellers having to aqcuiesce to an influx of newcommers in your area. However, you should never, never use an event like this one to sing solo. Implying a threat on someone's life by brandishing a firearm does not weigh evenly on the scale of recourse, with that of impeding drivers by blocking their way with a bicycle. You would be better served and less stirring, if you would let this incident serve as fodder for mulling over, when you're studying the candidates running for public office.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#362
It is amazing to me that this issue has gone on for 13 pages! Good grief! The cyclist asked for an explanation, mine happened to be one that is certainly not foreign to many native's I know, I can't help it if there are some of you that never heard it. If you don't want anyone's opinion, why do you ask?
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#363
florida girl, I understand that you're voicing the growing pains of a small community getting larger. And, I understand that you are but one voice in a quieter chorus of disgruntled dwellers having to aqcuiesce to an influx of newcommers in your area. However, you should never, never use an event like this one to sing solo. Implying a threat on someone's life by brandishing a firearm does not weigh evenly on the scale of recourse, with that of impeding drivers by blocking their way with a bicycle. You would be better served and less stirring, if you would let this incident serve as fodder for mulling over, when you're studying the candidates running for public office.

First of all, assumptions aren't wise. I never said threatening with a gun was acceptable, just tried to explain why it happened. You assumed the worst. One voice maybe, maybe not, depends on who or what you listen to. If you haven't heard that one voice before, maybe it's time you did. I have never been ashamed to stand up for mercy, or any other issue I believe in. I have seen many problems resolved as a result. Maybe it's time someone stood up and had an opinion!!!
DD avatar
SoWal Expert
#364
FG, I don't think there's a lack of opinion on this board. :wave:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#365
First of all, assumptions aren't wise. I never said threatening with a gun was acceptable, just tried to explain why it happened. You assumed the worst. One voice maybe, maybe not, depends on who or what you listen to. If you haven't heard that one voice before, maybe it's time you did. I have never been ashamed to stand up for mercy, or any other issue I believe in. I have seen many problems resolved as a result. Maybe it's time someone stood up and had an opinion!!!

Are you going to show mercy to the mosquitos, dog flies, and other bugs? After all that dog fly might just be having a bad day.
Beach Comber
#366
No excuse for pulling guns. No good excuse for rude behavior. Not born here, but my 30 plus year old son was, and I was here before tourist "develpment." I do enjoy the bike paths (for bikes, feet, etc) and the highway (for cars). I do wish the bikes were either riding on the bike path when available, of if available and don't want to use them, find an area such as the park trails or country roads where it doesn't endanger life or impede traffic.
Will B avatar
Moderator
#367
:popcorn:
Paige avatar
Beach Lover
#368
No excuse for pulling guns. No good excuse for rude behavior. Not born here, but my 30 plus year old son was, and I was here before tourist "develpment." I do enjoy the bike paths (for bikes, feet, etc) and the highway (for cars). I do wish the bikes were either riding on the bike path when available, of if available and don't want to use them, find an area such as the park trails or country roads where it doesn't endanger life or impede traffic.

I take it that you haven't read the enitre thread. This has been hashed and rehashed.
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#369
I do wish the bikes were either riding on the bike path when available, of if available and don't want to use them, find an area such as the park trails or country roads where it doesn't endanger life or impede traffic.


A lot of things I would like to see changed in this country. Thank God we do not live in a Democracy. This Republic thing keeps my outlandish ideas from becoming law. Just like it will protect us from this one.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#370
It's almost election day, thought I'd bump up a thread that a candidate has voiced some interesting opinions in.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#371
Skunkape is endorsing Miss Cambpell for mosquito czarina. Entertainment is a good thing and she can see Russia across the bay.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#372
It's almost election day, thought I'd bump up a thread that a candidate has voiced some interesting opinions in.
I consider this both unnecessary and appalling. I am not a supporter of the candidate to which you refer, but her opinion, while maybe poor judgement, has nothing to do with the office for which she is running. Lighten up and let people decide for themselves who they will vote for. I hate negative campaigning though I know it is done by almost all candidates. You don't need to "bump up" a thread that is negative to a candidate. We've had enough of that on this board already.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#373
Skunkape is endorsing Miss Cambpell for mosquito czarina. Entertainment is a good thing and she can see Russia across the bay.

:floor::lolabove::funn:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#374
I consider this both unnecessary and appalling. I am not a supporter of the candidate to which you refer, but her opinion, while maybe poor judgement, has nothing to do with the office for which she is running. Lighten up and let people decide for themselves who they will vote for. I hate negative campaigning though I know it is done by almost all candidates. You don't need to "bump up" a thread that is negative to a candidate. We've had enough of that on this board already.

When a thread is created and the candidate in question has not been involved then yes I consider it a negative campaigning technique. However in this case the person in question did respond and showed a serious lack in judgement. I don't care if it's President or Mosquito Control Board, judgement is a very key point when I decide my choice.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#375
When a thread is created and the candidate in question has not been involved then yes I consider it a negative campaigning technique. However in this case the person in question did respond and showed a serious lack in judgement. I don't care if it's President or Mosquito Control Board, judgement is a very key point when I decide my choice.
Your consideration of "judgement" and mine differ. There are many, many forms of "judgement". I still think it was a cheap shot, unnecessary and not in the best interests of this forum. Every poster I have seen or read on this board has the ability to judge for themselves whether someone should be elected or not. I have never seen as much contentiousness in any forum to the extent I have seen it here during this campaign season. I, for one, am really glad it is finally over and will critize and commend the new administration once it takes office or before if deemed necessary in my mind. With the election now gone, hopefully it will not be necessary to "bump up" another thread.
Beach Fanatic
#376
driver pulls gun....

the "natives" are getting restless.....better circle the wagons! where's Rodney King when you need him?!:idontno:

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