Did anyone review the list of campaign donors for Dst. 5 candidate Bob Hudson? Big developers, outside influencers, and beach dwellers who want the beaches closed. This should tell everyone where he will stand on most issues. Follow the money. Just go to the Walton County Supervisor of Elections web site and look at candidate contributor lists.
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I don't think this is a fair post without YOU listing the donors you are talking about, the amounts they donated, and why you think they are the wrong kind of donors.
Beach Fanatic
I agree, Princepesa, that the source of campaign financing can be an important issue. But, as Kurt said, to which contributors are you referring?
Admin
I believe someone has posted a link to a page that shows contributions to all candidates. I would appreciate it if someone could post the link again.
SoWal Insider
Try this. Click on the candidates name and you will be taken to the financial reports.
http://www.voterfocus.com/ws/WScand/candidate_pr.php?c=walton&el=6
http://www.voterfocus.com/ws/WScand/candidate_pr.php?c=walton&el=6
SoWal Expert
Beach Fanatic
I've scanned through the lists and it is ironic and interesting that the same names keep showing up in race after race.
It is like these groups/individuals have coordinated among themselves to back a certain list of candidates.
I prefer to vote for those who are funded by diverse individuals instead of the same old group.
Look through the list and draw your own conclusions.
In one or two races I have just changed my mind due who contributed to which campaign.
It is like these groups/individuals have coordinated among themselves to back a certain list of candidates. I prefer to vote for those who are funded by diverse individuals instead of the same old group.Look through the list and draw your own conclusions. In one or two races I have just changed my mind due who contributed to which campaign. Beach Fanatic
was happy to see that Mr. Davis for one is not among the apparently "chosen" candidates. My earlier decision to vote for him has been vindicated.
Beach Fanatic
i scan this forum daily to keep a hand on the pulse of the '08 Campaign, but have refrained from injecting my personal viewpoint on many topics. I find this post to be based on a perspective that is shared by some and that some will disagree with.
First and foremost I would like to say that individuals choose a candidate to support for many reasons. For most it is because they share a majority of the same viewpoint on issues - very rarely does one agree 100% - some contribute because they are asked by a business associate and some seeking an audience on "their issue".
When I made the decision to enter this race I made certain decisions that will not waiver and not change. First and foremost I share with each potential contributor my background and my vision. I then listen to their ideas thoughts and suggestions - sometimes I decided there is a good match and ask them for their support - sometimes I simply say "You have my email and phone number - if you have questions please feel free to contact me.
My support comes from Taxpayers ! They are scattered throughout the County, surronding counties and neighboring states - they are lawyers, doctors, teachers, retirees and yes some of them are in the building industry.
Those that have been cast in a questionable shadow deserve and will receive my support of their belief in my campaign.
Please compare the "full public disclosure" referenced in the post above and then match it to the membership of the Walton County Taxpayers Association membership and you will find the real reason for their support. They believe that I will continue to be an advocate for keeping property taxes as low as possible while meeting the health, safety and welfare needs of the citizens of Walton County. They believe in Bob Hudson and have given generously in an effort to place a fiscally conservative person in office. Plain and simple. They have no more influence or audience than anyone else.
I have refused contributions and will continue to do so when it is the ethical thing to do.
Vote for Robert 'Bob' Hudson !
First and foremost I would like to say that individuals choose a candidate to support for many reasons. For most it is because they share a majority of the same viewpoint on issues - very rarely does one agree 100% - some contribute because they are asked by a business associate and some seeking an audience on "their issue".
When I made the decision to enter this race I made certain decisions that will not waiver and not change. First and foremost I share with each potential contributor my background and my vision. I then listen to their ideas thoughts and suggestions - sometimes I decided there is a good match and ask them for their support - sometimes I simply say "You have my email and phone number - if you have questions please feel free to contact me.
My support comes from Taxpayers ! They are scattered throughout the County, surronding counties and neighboring states - they are lawyers, doctors, teachers, retirees and yes some of them are in the building industry.
Those that have been cast in a questionable shadow deserve and will receive my support of their belief in my campaign.
Please compare the "full public disclosure" referenced in the post above and then match it to the membership of the Walton County Taxpayers Association membership and you will find the real reason for their support. They believe that I will continue to be an advocate for keeping property taxes as low as possible while meeting the health, safety and welfare needs of the citizens of Walton County. They believe in Bob Hudson and have given generously in an effort to place a fiscally conservative person in office. Plain and simple. They have no more influence or audience than anyone else.
I have refused contributions and will continue to do so when it is the ethical thing to do.
Vote for Robert 'Bob' Hudson !
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Beach Fanatic
Idlewild, I agree that the identity of campaign contributors can provide important insight into a candidate's campaign. I wish everyone would examine the contribution reports as you have. The people who support a candidate can give a true reflection on the candidate's support base.
That being said, it seems like most of Hudson's contributors are linked to his quixotic crusade in Driftwood. Actually seems rather one-dimensional to me.
That being said, it seems like most of Hudson's contributors are linked to his quixotic crusade in Driftwood. Actually seems rather one-dimensional to me.
Beach Fanatic
Darn. I wanted to ask a question about something but certainly do not want to take away from Bob's response. Oh well, Bob. I really would like some input on this though, and sorry for the long back story but it really does matter so please trudge through it.
When I was 14 I took a job washing cars at a rental car agency in Pensacola. The guy who I worked for was 19 or 20, going to Pensacola Junior College. We became pretty good friends, going hunting and fishing together, camping out, things of that nature as he was also an avid sportsman.
As I grew older we stayed in touch, even when moving to DeFuniak Springs. He use to come over and buy cars and trucks from me. I was at his wedding. Was there for him during his divorce. When he decided to buy some land here, he bought the plot of my brother's right next door. Even put it in his will to go to my children if anything happens to him since he has no kids of his own. Time marches on and now he is even dating my Aunt back in Pensacola. Now this guy is an engineer on big ships. I call him the 'Scotty' of the waterways. He has worked in many different fields over time. But currently he is working in the oil industry on both supply ships, transports, and research vessels.
Now this is my quandry. The other day he calls me from the Gulf to wish me luck in my campaign and to offer to send me a check to help with expenses. And, of course, I told him thanks. But after reading this thread, and the posts of many of you, I am wondering, did I mess up and accept a campaign contribution from BIG OIL?
I kill myself at times.
When I was 14 I took a job washing cars at a rental car agency in Pensacola. The guy who I worked for was 19 or 20, going to Pensacola Junior College. We became pretty good friends, going hunting and fishing together, camping out, things of that nature as he was also an avid sportsman.
As I grew older we stayed in touch, even when moving to DeFuniak Springs. He use to come over and buy cars and trucks from me. I was at his wedding. Was there for him during his divorce. When he decided to buy some land here, he bought the plot of my brother's right next door. Even put it in his will to go to my children if anything happens to him since he has no kids of his own. Time marches on and now he is even dating my Aunt back in Pensacola. Now this guy is an engineer on big ships. I call him the 'Scotty' of the waterways. He has worked in many different fields over time. But currently he is working in the oil industry on both supply ships, transports, and research vessels.
Now this is my quandry. The other day he calls me from the Gulf to wish me luck in my campaign and to offer to send me a check to help with expenses. And, of course, I told him thanks. But after reading this thread, and the posts of many of you, I am wondering, did I mess up and accept a campaign contribution from BIG OIL?
I kill myself at times.
Beach Fanatic
Idlewild, I agree that the identity of campaign contributors can provide important insight into a candidate's campaign. I wish everyone would examine the contribution reports as you have. The people who support a candidate can give a true reflection on the candidate's support base.
That being said, it seems like most of Hudson's contributors are linked to his quixotic crusade in Driftwood. Actually seems rather one-dimensional to me.
Now I am confused - I have received no contributions from Driftwood residents - All of their money is behind Osborne.
WRobert can you get me some "Big Oil" contributions ?
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Beach Fanatic
Now I am confused - I have received no contributions from Driftwood residents - All of their money is behind Osborne.
WRobert can you get me some "Big Oil" contributions ?
Maybe you are Osborne. Who knows anymore with all of these new people showing up.
SoWal Insider
Now I am confused - I have received no contributions from Driftwood residents - All of their money is behind Osborne.
WRobert can you get me some "Big Oil" contributions ?
Maybe you are Osborne. Who knows anymore with all of these new people showing up.
I think you're both impostor's
Where is my sock puppet of truth when I need it?
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Beach Fanatic
I never have been able to distinguish between the two of you. Too funny.
Meow
I think both wrobert and Mr. Hudson rock! IMO...their posts on sowal.com always ring truthfully and on point to me. I can't vote (but I can and do pay taxes ) in this election, but I believe both of these gentlemen deserve a "good looking at" by the voters of Walton County.
Best of luck to you both!
) in this election, but I believe both of these gentlemen deserve a "good looking at" by the voters of Walton County.Best of luck to you both!
Beach Lover
Jump to judgment?
Your simplistic evaluation of a candidate based on his/her contributors does a disservice to all candidates who run for office. Admittedly, ?big money, developers, special interest groups? donate to candidates they feel are most likely to support their views. However, a politician?s character is at stake here. A candidate of character can take money from all groups and still not be ?bought.? I still remember the shock on a large contributor?s face when I voted against a project he had before the Oklahoma City Planning Commission (I was a candidate for City Council at the time). We are all so cynical about political candidates? motives that we may be too quick to jump to negative conclusions ? the reason many folks just don?t even consider public service anymore.
Did anyone review the list of campaign donors for Dst. 5 candidate Bob Hudson? Big developers, outside influencers, and beach dwellers who want the beaches closed. This should tell everyone where he will stand on most issues. Follow the money. Just go to the Walton County Supervisor of Elections web site and look at candidate contributor lists.
Your simplistic evaluation of a candidate based on his/her contributors does a disservice to all candidates who run for office. Admittedly, ?big money, developers, special interest groups? donate to candidates they feel are most likely to support their views. However, a politician?s character is at stake here. A candidate of character can take money from all groups and still not be ?bought.? I still remember the shock on a large contributor?s face when I voted against a project he had before the Oklahoma City Planning Commission (I was a candidate for City Council at the time). We are all so cynical about political candidates? motives that we may be too quick to jump to negative conclusions ? the reason many folks just don?t even consider public service anymore.
SoWal Expert
My $.02 >> I'm voting for Osborne, but from what I've seen of Mr Hudson, he will not be bought out by anyone, especially for $500 x ? . He seems to be a honest man, who cares about the out of control spending that we have at the County level. I don't know Mr Hudson personally, but I'm speaking from what I've seen at County Meetings over the years.
Beach Fanatic
I have often wondered why politicos did not take the contributions from those they disagree. Education best comes from those who oppose not who follows the philosophical lead. Ewe're thought processes may vary(ly). :shock:
Mr. Hudson has determined that there are agendae from which he will not waiver. This is bothersome, my vote, if barn animals had, would be preferred to the (wo)man who had flexibility of mind. Again, ewe're thought processes may vary(ly).
Mr. Hudson has determined that there are agendae from which he will not waiver. This is bothersome, my vote, if barn animals had, would be preferred to the (wo)man who had flexibility of mind. Again, ewe're thought processes may vary(ly).
SoWal Expert
I haven't seen it here in the last 6 years of living here, but I have seen local poliTRICKS in other towns get a little bloody and life threatening when people contribute to campaigns, expecting favors, then fail to receive the favors. I have no problem with candidates deciding from whom they will accept money and from whom they will not, no more than I think you should be free to buy goods from China, if you so choose, or not.
Beach Fanatic
A couple of things:
#1 My Big Oil check came in today, so do I deposit it or return it?
#2 Graytonbeachguy gave me a gray square instead of a green square. Does that mean he took away from my reputation because he did not like my sad attempt at sarcasm? Or maybe he just does not like me. I am confused by the whole issue.
#1 My Big Oil check came in today, so do I deposit it or return it?
#2 Graytonbeachguy gave me a gray square instead of a green square. Does that mean he took away from my reputation because he did not like my sad attempt at sarcasm? Or maybe he just does not like me. I am confused by the whole issue.
SoWal Insider
A couple of things:
#1 My Big Oil check came in today, so do I deposit it or return it?
#2 Graytonbeachguy gave me a gray square instead of a green square. Does that mean he took away from my reputation because he did not like my sad attempt at sarcasm? Or maybe he just does not like me. I am confused by the whole issue.
Can't answer number one for you, but number two is because he has not posted enough to give green, yet.
Beach Fanatic
Can't answer number one for you, but number two is because he has not posted enough to give green, yet.
YEA! Another fan. I hope. And here is some more Victory Center news.
There will be a Volunteer training session at Headquarters at 10 am on Thursday, August 14th. Margaret Sims, our area RPOF Representative, will be here to help train/explain calling our constituents to get out and vote, along with other programs we will implement.
The Walton Headquarters is located at 4821 Hwy 98 W, Suite 105 in Santa Rosa Beach. At this meeting they hope to organize the volunteer effort for Super Saturday on August 23rd.
Beach Fanatic
Hold on Sheep.
I guess I need to clearly explain this statement "When I made the decision to enter this race I made certain decisions that will not waiver and not change."
My decisions were:
1.To be the major stockholder in my campaign
2. To follow campaign finance law to the letter
3. To not accept any contribution where it was obvious that the contribution had strings attached.
On two occassions I have been faced with obvious conflicts with those "guidelines". In one the donor wanted to make the gift anonomously and asked me could I handle that and in the second the donor made it very obvious exactly what they expected in return.
I will not change those three guiding principles and I'm sorry if that causes you pause in regards to my ability to be flexible, open minded or willing to compromise a guiding principle. It is simply a matter of ethics with me.
Hopefully you can understand that I am the candidate and I must sign the financial disclosures and am held to a very high standard concerning my ethical behavior. It should not be any other way in my opinion.
Hope that helps.
Vote for Robert Bob' Hudson
I guess I need to clearly explain this statement "When I made the decision to enter this race I made certain decisions that will not waiver and not change."
My decisions were:
1.To be the major stockholder in my campaign
2. To follow campaign finance law to the letter
3. To not accept any contribution where it was obvious that the contribution had strings attached.
On two occassions I have been faced with obvious conflicts with those "guidelines". In one the donor wanted to make the gift anonomously and asked me could I handle that and in the second the donor made it very obvious exactly what they expected in return.
I will not change those three guiding principles and I'm sorry if that causes you pause in regards to my ability to be flexible, open minded or willing to compromise a guiding principle. It is simply a matter of ethics with me.
Hopefully you can understand that I am the candidate and I must sign the financial disclosures and am held to a very high standard concerning my ethical behavior. It should not be any other way in my opinion.
Hope that helps.
Vote for Robert Bob' Hudson
SoWal Insider
YEA! Another fan. I hope. And here is some more Victory Center news.
There will be a Volunteer training session at Headquarters at 10 am on Thursday, August 14th. Margaret Sims, our area RPOF Representative, will be here to help train/explain calling our constituents to get out and vote, along with other programs we will implement.
The Walton Headquarters is located at 4821 Hwy 98 W, Suite 105 in Santa Rosa Beach. At this meeting they hope to organize the volunteer effort for Super Saturday on August 23rd.
I'm sorry, but I am tired and can't help myself. Will there be a safety course offered to volunteers as well?
*The above comment made by me was before I saw Jdargs post about the shooting at the Dem headquarters in Arkansas. Maybe volunteers might need to start getting safety training, for real.
Scary world..............
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Beach Fanatic
I'm sorry, but I am tired and can't help myself. Will there be a safety course offered to volunteers as well?
Me too. So, will there be a linguist to help Republicans learn the difference between confidence and Arrogrance
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