Driftwood on the BCC Agenda

as I asked, what the heck does the election have to do with the issues at Driftwood. Interested girl seems to be defending the developer who shafted the tax payers of Walton County and the owners in Driftwood Estates. She is defending the people who shafted herself. Maybe she is the developer.

as I asked, what the heck does the election have to do with the issues at Driftwood. Interested girl seems to be defending the developer who shafted the tax payers of Walton County and the owners in Driftwood Estates. She is defending the people who shafted herself. Maybe she is the developer.

Wow...Interested Girl is interesting. Bone to pick? :blink:

Keep up the good work, Mr. O!

Mr. O

Couldn't defend yourself on Driftwood so had to go there? How quickly you fold WOW! I'm quite comfortable with the outcome of the election. Let's make it fun and run against each other in the next election.:rolling:What do you say SOWAL Osborne Vs Intrested Girl. Sounds fun.

Please answer the taxpayers question? Who should pay developer or taxpayers?

First question for the 2012 election debate. Maaaaaaaaaan this is fun!:lolabove:

Although, I totally agree that this thread has NOTHING to do with the past election, but should we expect to see your name on the ballet again in 2012?:idontno: Just wondering, I know, I know, its never good to wonder too far b/c your might get lost. :wave:

Oh, P.S., I believe anyone that is concerned about how there tax money is spent, would want the developer to be responsible for repairs/installation of the drainage system in Driftwood. :bang:

So, let me see if I understand what's transpired. There's been a lot of "bloviating" but essentially we are back to the Pre-September 8th position.

In other words, the Driftwood HOA/Osborne are proceeding with their lawsuit on their nickle, Walton County is maintaining their position on this issue and not joining the lawsuit, and the Driftwood developers are making drainage improvements while defending their legal position.

Is that essentially it?

So, let me see if I understand what's transpired. There's been a lot of "bloviating" but essentially we are back to the Pre-September 8th position.

In other words, the Driftwood HOA/Osborne are proceeding with their lawsuit on their nickle, Walton County is maintaining their position on this issue and not joining the lawsuit, and the Driftwood developers are making drainage improvements while defending their legal position.

Is that essentially it?

Could this poster be Bill O'Rielly???

Could this poster be Bill O'Rielly???

O'Reilly...:floor:. It does sound pithy!

Osborne picked the fight - he reminds me of that "playground bully" each of us faced in one way or another. He opened the dialog on his plans for a run for the position in 2012 when he assumed his bully personality and challenged me to run against him.

Ms. Jones is revelent to the discussion only because he will no longer have his principal supporter after December and his lawsuit is not to be heard until August of next year.

Support him if you choose to but there are many who see him as one who loves the attention and limelight he has enjoyed for way to long.

His actions speak volumes about his personality and suitability to serve.

Could this poster be Bill O'Rielly???

:lol: That's a good one.....Bill O' wanted to join his good buddy Karl Rove in Walton County.

Bloviate really is a great word (with or without O'Reilly) and seems to fit. From Wikipedia:


To bloviate means "to speak pompously and excessively," or "to expound ridiculously." A colloquial verb coined in the United States, it is commonly used with contempt to describe the behavior of politicians, academics, pundits or media "experts," sometimes called bloviators, who hold forth on subjects in an arrogant, tiresome way. 'Bloviating' has taken on new life in the blogosphere, used derisively to identify and otherwise chide the most pompous of contributors to message boards and forums.

Ok...Bill...it's a good word. Don't be a popinjay...... (pap in ja) a conceited person.

Ok...Bill...it's a good word. Don't be a popinjay...... (pap in ja) a conceited person.

Keith Olbermann won't allow me to be a popinjay..... even though I have more viewers and higher ratings than him!

I think Keith and Bill need some good old fashioned Southern Charm School...maybe Nancy Grace can meet them there.

So, let me see if I understand what's transpired. There's been a lot of "bloviating" but essentially we are back to the Pre-September 8th position.

In other words, the Driftwood HOA/Osborne are proceeding with their lawsuit on their nickle, Walton County is maintaining their position on this issue and not joining the lawsuit, and the Driftwood developers are making drainage improvements while defending their legal position.

Is that essentially it?

Let me see if I can straighten out those statements.

Close, but no cigar. Yes, lawsuits are proceeding to correct the developer's lack of proper installation of infrastructure.

I'm not sure that Walton County has stated "their position," so I don't know what that statement means. Walton County did agree to send the developer the bill for over $300,000 of work which the County completed, at tax-payers' expense, as well as any future bills that come in on correcting the issue. According to State Law, I don't think the County has a right to repair the lack of infrastructure, and that burden is placed on the developer to correct his actions, or lack of, by the State of Florida. The County recognizes that the developer failed to install infrastructure as required by Code. The development orders should have never been approved until AFTER the infrastructure was complete, and that is according to Code.

Lastly, it is my understanding that Commissioner Commander stated several months ago at a BCC meeting, that the developer had 45 days to show "substantial work had been completed," or the County may proceed with a lawsuit against the developer. 45 days passed, and no to little action was taken by the developer. More days passed, and the day prior to the next BCC meeting, the developer signed off on some paperwork to make it appear action had been taken to start correcting the issues. If the BCC really wanted to stand behind their warnings, they should have proceeded with their own lawsuit against the developer. They did not do so. The developer's agent showed up at the BCC meeting, and said that they were trying, but also admitted that the lenders weren't very willing to free money to correct the issues, which might be interpreted that the developer cannot afford it on his own.

Once again close but no cigar.

The motion made that passed was to send a bill for legal fees pertaining to the road closure not infrastructure repairs.

The amount of the bill to be sent has never been released and as of yesterday was yet undetermined.

I'm not sure that Walton County has stated "their position," so I don't know what that statement means.

Thanks Smiling Joe and Interested Girl for the additional information. Concerning Walton County's position, I was referring to their "legal position" with respect to the lawsuit. This has remained unchanged....Walton County is not joining the lawsuit.

They have not joined the suit - and they should not join the suit.

Driftwood and its HOA should row their own boat. A true finder of fact will determine who is right.

Just wanted to clarify what they actually did vote to do.

I stand corrected. You are correct that it was the "legal" bill they sent to the developer, as well as all future legal bills will be sent to the developer.

The County is in somewhat of a bind, because they have staff who signed off on the project noting that the infrastructure was installed as designed, and that is why the project was approved. If the County staffer had noted that it wasn't completed as designed, the project would have not been approved for development orders.

IMO, the County effed up and had a chance to escape, but turned their heads. Now, Driftwood owners can go after the County for their improper approval of the Development Orders, which violate County Code. It seems to me that there was severe lack of over-sight, or either there was twisting of arms. I'd like to think it was done due to the rapid building going on, and just lack of following up on details. The County signing off on the project as infrastructure completed, was/is a huge problem and now a big liability, in my non-legal opinion.

Personally, since the County has now researched the lack of infrastructure and found it to be incomplete, I think the burden should be placed on the County to pursuit the legal issues with the developer, not the property owners in Driftwood.

They would have effed up if they had taken the bait with Osborne's 'I won't sue the county if you join' offer. He can agree not to sue personally but he can not sign away anyone else's right to sue. It was a cheap parlour trick that failed.

This issue is right where it should be, being funded by who it should be funded by and will be litigated in due time.

Sara Palin can see Russia from her house and I can see Driftwood Estates from my high and dry Miramar Beach condo. (ROWFLMAO).

I picked a fight?

Osborne picked the fight - he reminds me of that "playground bully" each of us faced in one way or another. He opened the dialog on his plans for a run for the position in 2012 when he assumed his bully personality and challenged me to run against him.

Ms. Jones is revelent to the discussion only because he will no longer have his principal supporter after December and his lawsuit is not to be heard until August of next year.

Support him if you choose to but there are many who see him as one who loves the attention and limelight he has enjoyed for way to long.

His actions speak volumes about his personality and suitability to serve.

Below is your very first SOWAL post cut and pasted.

I have decided to vote for Alan. Many of you believe him to be the best candidtae for the job. I really don't know about that but I do believe that he will accomplish a peronal goal that I have. He will absolutely halt development.

His personality of aggressive behavior will absolutely run all of the developers out of Walton County. He is a true one issue guy regardless of all he says while cleaning up his reputation as a hot head. I saw that on the Dem site on their recordings. Hands waving in the air and shouting at Chairman Jones. I thought he would explode. Just what we need to grind the economy to a total halt.

I know that the fireworks will fly- and it will be like Thunder and lightning from above.

ALAN IS THE MAN .

If being a "Playground Bully" as you call it, means I'm wrong for standing up for my neighbors and our tax dollars, then call me what you will. I simply refuse to let the average citizen be pushed around. Don't you have a lawsuit of your association's pending against the county. Can you say volleyball net?
You can look at intrested girl's first post on the thread "Can Alan Osborne Sue Himself?" Read that and decide who came after who.

OMG, is interested girl the lady with the volleyball net on the beach? I thought that maybe she was in Sandestin and didn't want normal people in her development.

Once again you are wrong Mr. Osborne.

I do not live in Edgewater.

You jump to many conclusions based on speculation and your desire to always be right.

You are killing me ( waaaaaaha).

And yes I can say volleyball net - she will win her suit.

Amazing how you stand up for what you believe to be right and then attack someone else for doing the same thing.

I knew you would bite on that one!

Once again you are wrong Mr. Osborne.

I do not live in Edgewater.

You jump to many conclusions based on speculation and your desire to always be right.

You are killing me ( waaaaaaha).

And yes I can say volleyball net - she will win her suit.

Amazing how you stand up for what you believe to be right and then attack someone else for doing the same thing.

I have never attacked her and believe they have every right to fight for what they believe in.
In Fact I offered the BCC a GPS solution to let them keep their net with a permit, read the minutes.
Thanks for narrowing down who you are for the readers of SOWAL.

Pray tell did you have a add in the paper during the election?

Taxpayers or Developer, who pays the bill in driftwood? Compliance with the Development order or let it ride. That's what this thread is about!

No Mr. Osborne this thread is about your victory celebration announcement and then presenting your opinions and thoughts as fact when they aren't. I just choose to point out where you are flat wrong when you are.

Osborne picked the fight - he reminds me of that "playground bully" each of us faced in one way or another. He opened the dialog on his plans for a run for the position in 2012 when he assumed his bully personality and challenged me to run against him.

Ms. Jones is revelent to the discussion only because he will no longer have his principal supporter after December and his lawsuit is not to be heard until August of next year.

Support him if you choose to but there are many who see him as one who loves the attention and limelight he has enjoyed for way to long.

His actions speak volumes about his personality and suitability to serve.

There she goes again, dodging the issue, the topic of the thread, cant, wont answer the question. This refusal to address the issue and continued spohmoric attacks on Osborne are transparent. Interested Girl, your credibility wains each time you make your comments so negatively personal.
One thing you are correct on, his actions do speak volumes on his suitability to serve, that is precisely why he won the majority vote in South Walton😀!

The objective was to get elected something he did not accomplish.