I went on my kayak to the outfall area of Camp Creek Lake last week--it has broken through/connected to the Gulf--there has slow movement of the water out to the Gulf..... but obviously, it is too slow--everyone's with docks right on Camp Creek Lake haven't been able to use them--they have been underwater for almost 2 months now!
I know here in South Walton that man cannot give Nature a push to open it up more, physically, but how much longer will my dock be under water?
I will talk to anyone to get the info. on what to do about this? Anyone have any ideas?
Has Global Warming started to affect South Walton now!!!
Signed,
Dockless Camp Creeker.:cry:
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NotDeadYetNotDeadYetBeach Fanatic1,416 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
NotDeadYetBeach Fanatic1,416 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticHas Global Warming started to affect South Walton now!!!
Hurricane Ike piled up lots of sand at all the dune lake outlets. Not sure if you can blame Ike on global warming. :idontno:
It's just part of the natural cycle. Inconvenient, but not unnatural. I noticed driving by the other day that the water is really high. Have you still got any septic systems around the lake?
Hurricane Ike piled up lots of sand at all the dune lake outlets. Not sure if you can blame Ike on global warming. :idontno:
It's just part of the natural cycle. Inconvenient, but not unnatural. I noticed driving by the other day that the water is really high. Have you still got any septic systems around the lake?[/quote]
Not on our street, but maybe some of the older houses on the northside of the lake.
Matt JMatt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGB
Matt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGBIf it's started to trickle through it shouldn't be long before everyone's complaining that there isn't enough water in the lake and that it's a platform and not a dock.
Lake View TooLake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderI've noticed Western Lake unusually high recently. Eastern Lake has been abnormally high for several years now. How many times in recent memory has Camp Creek Lake been this high?
AAbsoluteAAbsoluteBannedWatercolor, Watersound and 12 days a year 59th Str1,814 postsJoined View profileMessageBanned
AAbsoluteBannedWatercolor, Watersound and 12 days a year 59th Str1,814 postsJoined View profileMessageBannedI went on my kayak to the outfall area of Camp Creek Lake last week--it has broken through/connected to the Gulf--there has slow movement of the water out to the Gulf..... but obviously, it is too slow--everyone's with docks right on Camp Creek Lake haven't been able to use them--they have been underwater for almost 2 months now!
I know here in South Walton that man cannot give Nature a push to open it up more, physically, but how much longer will my dock be under water?
I will talk to anyone to get the info. on what to do about this? Anyone have any ideas?
Has Global Warming started to affect South Walton now!!!
Signed,
Dockless Camp Creeker.:cry:
I love your view.
We'll call in an airstrike for you tomorrow from the boomers at Eglin. Seek cover when the sun is at its highest.
AAbsoluteAAbsoluteBannedWatercolor, Watersound and 12 days a year 59th Str1,814 postsJoined View profileMessageBanned
AAbsoluteBannedWatercolor, Watersound and 12 days a year 59th Str1,814 postsJoined View profileMessageBannedCall Tony
Also, please feel free to attend the next CDLAB meeting, on December 4th at the Coastal Branch Library, and let the board know about your concerns.
Sincerely,
Anthony Austermann
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Anthony Austermann
Environmental Planner
Walton County Planning and Development Services
Environmental Department
Walton County Courthouse Annex
31 Coastal Centre Boulevard, Suite 100
Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459
(850) 267-1955 office
(850) 622-9133 fax
ausanthony@co.walton.fl.us
http://www.co.walton.fl.us/default.asp?ID=228
Call or write Tony. He wrote me today. Here's his info. Peace.
The CDLAB is only a recommending board that makes its recommendations through the director of planning and development. However, the FDEP and USACE can grant the County a special permit, during very specific circumstances, to mechanically open a dune lake outfall.
The CDLAB is only a recommending board that makes its recommendations through the director of planning and development. However, the FDEP and USACE can grant the County a special permit, during very specific circumstances, to mechanically open a dune lake outfall.
Also, please feel free to attend the next CDLAB meeting, on December 4th at the Coastal Branch Library, and let the board know about your concerns.
Sincerely,
Anthony Austermann
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Anthony Austermann
Environmental Planner
Walton County Planning and Development Services
Environmental Department
Walton County Courthouse Annex
31 Coastal Centre Boulevard, Suite 100
Santa Rosa Beach, Florida 32459
(850) 267-1955 office
(850) 622-9133 fax
ausanthony@co.walton.fl.us
http://www.co.walton.fl.us/default.asp?ID=228
NotDeadYetNotDeadYetBeach Fanatic1,416 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
NotDeadYetBeach Fanatic1,416 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticIf it's started to trickle through it shouldn't be long before everyone's complaining that there isn't enough water in the lake and that it's a platform and not a dock.
Maybe not. Depends how much sand is blocking the outlet. That would ordinarily be the case, but the county had quite the time getting Eastern Lake open after Ike because of the volume of sand. I might walk there tomorrow and have a look, have not been on that beach in quite a while.
If there are septic tanks under water, hnooe, you ought to talk to the county about them.
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HopBeach FanaticDune Allen2,228 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticIf it's started to trickle through it shouldn't be long before everyone's complaining that there isn't enough water in the lake and that it's a platform and not a dock.
this is usually the case...
Matt JMatt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGB
Matt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGBMaybe not. Depends how much sand is blocking the outlet. That would ordinarily be the case, but the county had quite the time getting Eastern Lake open after Ike because of the volume of sand. I might walk there tomorrow and have a look, have not been on that beach in quite a while.
If there are septic tanks under water, hnooe, you ought to talk to the county about them.
Eastern lake should pop any day now. We went down the other day and it's only got several more inches to get over the sand.
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floridiandreamsBeach ComberSoWal18 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach ComberMother Nature
I am guessing most folks worried about coastal dune lakes outfall have not lived here for very long.
:idontno:
It is part of Mother Nature's will. It will all even out.
Imagine this:
If every time someone complains about one of the lakes getting too full, then all the freaked out neighbors rally together and takes action with a bulldozer, imagine what the outcome of that will be! No outfall at all, not lake at all, oops... everyone on 30A lives next to mud puddle. Oh.... no... 😱
This is nothing new!
We live in a beautiful ecosystem that we should all be grateful for!
I am guessing most folks worried about coastal dune lakes outfall have not lived here for very long.
:idontno:
It is part of Mother Nature's will. It will all even out.
Imagine this:
If every time someone complains about one of the lakes getting too full, then all the freaked out neighbors rally together and takes action with a bulldozer, imagine what the outcome of that will be! No outfall at all, not lake at all, oops... everyone on 30A lives next to mud puddle. Oh.... no... 😱
This is nothing new!
We live in a beautiful ecosystem that we should all be grateful for!
Miss KittyMiss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeow
Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeowI am guessing most folks worried about coastal dune lakes outfall have not lived here for very long.
:idontno:
It is part of Mother Nature's will. It will all even out.
Imagine this:
If every time someone complains about one of the lakes getting too full, then all the freaked out neighbors rally together and takes action with a bulldozer, imagine what the outcome of that will be! No outfall at all, not lake at all, oops... everyone on 30A lives next to mud puddle. Oh.... no... 😱
This is nothing new!
We live in a beautiful ecosystem that we should all be grateful for!
Great post!
hnooe...didn't we have this same conversation before? I remember something about floating docks. ;-)
Great post!
hnooe...didn't we have this same conversation before? I remember something about floating docks. ;-)
Yea we did....I am going to quit complaning about Mother Nature, and just let her do her thing...I am too impatient!
organicmamaorganicmamaBeach FanaticWNC1,638 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
organicmamaBeach FanaticWNC1,638 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticYea we did....I am going to quit complaning about Mother Nature, and just let her do her thing...I am too impatient!
Didn't we have this conversation this morning?:floor::wub::floor::wub:
Matt JMatt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGB
Matt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGBDidn't we have this conversation this morning?:floor::wub::floor::wub:
Yes, my pupil's are still glued to the back of my head. :roll:😀
Lake View TooLake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderI am guessing most folks worried about coastal dune lakes outfall have not lived here for very long.
:idontno:
It is part of Mother Nature's will. It will all even out.
Imagine this:
If every time someone complains about one of the lakes getting too full, then all the freaked out neighbors rally together and takes action with a bulldozer, imagine what the outcome of that will be! No outfall at all, not lake at all, oops... everyone on 30A lives next to mud puddle. Oh.... no... 😱
This is nothing new!
We live in a beautiful ecosystem that we should all be grateful for!
The situation at Eastern Lake is different in that it was started by a developer depositing 27 dumptruck loads of filldirt into the floodplain of the inlet after Ivan. The sand that has accrued since then has blocked the inlet from ever opening naturally. Also, the lake encroaches to where it is touching some houses on the lake causing structural damage. I hope all of you are cognizant that if beach renourishment ever comes to SoWal it will certainly impact the lakes.
Matt JMatt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGB
Matt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGBThe situation at Eastern Lake is different in that it was started by a developer depositing 27 dumptruck loads of filldirt into the floodplain of the inlet after Ivan. The sand that has accrued since then has blocked the inlet from ever opening naturally. Also, the lake encroaches to where it is touching some houses on the lake causing structural damage. I hope all of you are cognizant that if beach renourishment ever comes to SoWal it will certainly impact the lakes.
Hmm, it couldn't have anything to do with forcing the lake open could it? Ever ailment that has ever befallen Eastern Lake is blamed on this one incident. When the weeds were overgrown it was blamed on this, not the owners with grass that extends to the shoreline who fertilize it. When the salinity of the lake was at an all time low (no proof this isn't a natural cycle or mention of the fact that the salinity has only been measured for a very short period) it was all the fault of this one individual.
Perhaps the most vocal group on Eastern lake shouldn't have built their homes in what amounts to a FLOOD plain.
Matt JMatt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGB
Matt JSWGB24,862 postsJoined View profileMessageSWGBLooks like Eastern Lake opened this morning. The lake has dropped about a foot.
Looks like Eastern Lake opened this morning. The lake has dropped about a foot.
Good for all the Eastern Lakers--boy, I am just glad I built my place at 20 feet above sea level.
I can and will wait this one out, do you hear me God?" :roll:
Lake View TooLake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Lake View TooSoWal InsiderEastern Lake7,000 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderSalinity
Eastern Lake was opened by the county. It has not broken out naturally in probably four years. In the fifty years I have been observing Eastern Lake the salinity has never dropped to the point where it has wiped out entire species of plants and wildlife, as it has now. The sawgrass that was prevelant since the early sixties has been completely replaced by cattails. There is no more mullet and bluecrab. Freshwater invasive plants are now digging in. This is in no way a cycle but a clear change in the ecology of this lake brought upon by the damming of the inlet.
Eastern Lake was opened by the county. It has not broken out naturally in probably four years. In the fifty years I have been observing Eastern Lake the salinity has never dropped to the point where it has wiped out entire species of plants and wildlife, as it has now. The sawgrass that was prevelant since the early sixties has been completely replaced by cattails. There is no more mullet and bluecrab. Freshwater invasive plants are now digging in. This is in no way a cycle but a clear change in the ecology of this lake brought upon by the damming of the inlet.
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