sbartoldus avatar
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I know this category is for human health and wellness but I hope this thread will be welcomed here. I have encountered alot of people who think that declawing a cat is no big deal. If you are considering this procedure that is outlawed in many countries, please read this:

DECLAWING: What You Need to Know

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Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#27
Anyway, both of my animals have caused some damage, but it just isn't important.
Pepper has never damaged anything except my arm during a Gator game and my husband's orthotics. Unlike my previous twin miniature poodles who would get ticked off when we'd spend a Saturday at Lenox Square and chew a hole into the sheetrock.:eek: Also, they loved to eat my underwear.

Since the cat in question is a known violator of $ furnishings (and I blame the owner BTW, as I do w/ all poorly behaved pets and children), I don't think BR is being unreasonable to want to protect her house from its new tenant.
Thank you. :bow:

Yes- to the first joint. Then the feet are wrapped in gauze and tape for several days, with the blood oozing out and lots of pain- it is horrible to watch them walk. Cats respond to pain meds in strange ways so it is not always effective and/or makes them nuts. We never let them go home until the 3rd or 4th day, because the owners would freak out when they saw how truly awful this procedure is, or they would get them home, take off the bandages, and have a bloodbath all over the house.

I experienced that when Pepper had all digits on her cancerous toe removed last summer. It was awful. Even though I am not a cat person, I love animals enough to not put them through this. (Heck, I brake for squirrels). I just thought declawing meant taking off the nail, not taking off the toe, like daughter who stubbed her baby toes so many times that there is just a vestige of a toenail there. Almost impossible to put polish on them.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#28
Pepper has never damaged anything except my arm during a Gator game and my husband's orthotics. Unlike my previous twin miniature poodles who would get ticked off when we'd spend a Saturday at Lenox Square and chew a hole into the sheetrock.:eek: Also, they loved to eat my underwear.

That's a lounge thread right there! :blink:
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#29
See BR- you have some options! Claw covers, trimming, or new home for the cat!:clap:
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#30
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Originally Posted by Lynnie
Anyway, both of my animals have caused some damage, but it just isn't important.

Pepper has never damaged anything except my arm during a Gator game and my husband's orthotics. Unlike my previous twin miniature poodles who would get ticked off when we'd spend a Saturday at Lenox Square and chew a hole into the sheetrock.:eek: Also, they loved to eat my underwear.

A GF has dogs that eat her underwear.....The General used to do that, but Sweet Pea doesn't.

My animals have caused very little stress over damage, which is very little. Compared to the funn we have and the joy they bring, it's nothing. So, that was my original input - it's just not important when you look at a tangible compared to a breathing being.

And, so glad, BR, that you know now about declawing. Once my family told me about this, I never looked back with Cowboy. Plus, having his claws helps him hunt and gather much more efficiently......do you like chipmunks brought to you? :biggrin:
NotDeadYet avatar
Beach Fanatic
#31
Beachrunner, don't do it, not any of it. Find another home for that cat. You are not going to be happy with a cat in your home. You cannot train them like a dog. Either you are a cat person, or you are not, and you are not. It's obvious. Just find a cat person to take it off your hands and enjoy your dog, and your furniture.
SoWal Insider
#32
Beachrunner, don't do it, not any of it. Find another home for that cat. You are not going to be happy with a cat in your home. You cannot train them like a dog. Either you are a cat person, or you are not, and you are not. It's obvious. Just find a cat person to take it off your hands and enjoy your dog, and your furniture.

uh, she might just end up loving that cat! Mr. JR said he always hated cats. But after meeting me and my cats thru the years, he now is an official cat person. He actually likes cats better. You just never know. Could be a match made in heaven. :D
NotDeadYet avatar
Beach Fanatic
#33
Oh, I know, Johnrudy, people do change and fall in love with cats all the time. But see, Mr. JR was motivated. ;-) Beachrunner is not. I'd hate to see the cat declawed and it turnout to be a match not made in heaven.
ItzKatzTime avatar
Beach Fanatic
#34
I experienced that when Pepper had all digits on her cancerous toe removed last summer. It was awful. Even though I am not a cat person, I love animals enough to not put them through this. (Heck, I brake for squirrels). I just thought declawing meant taking off the nail, not taking off the toe, like daughter who stubbed her baby toes so many times that there is just a vestige of a toenail there. Almost impossible to put polish on them.

Phew...I feel better now. Thanks for taking all this advice, opinions and well, whatever. Most people I come in contact with think the same thing...only the nail. Good Luck! :clap: Looking forward to hearing your stories about your new friend! When does he/she arrive?

I break for squirrels too, turtles, mice, armadillos (they are so slow), and just about anything that can cross a road!;-)
SoWal Insider
#35
Oh, I know, Johnrudy, people do change and fall in love with cats all the time. But see, Mr. JR was motivated. ;-) Beachrunner is not. I'd hate to see the cat declawed and it turnout to be a match not made in heaven.

I should reveal tho, that after the cat urinated in one of our guest's suitcases and then on their bed, he vacillated on being a cat lover/cat hater. :lol:
NotDeadYet avatar
Beach Fanatic
#36
I should reveal tho, that after the cat urinated in one of our guest's suitcases and then on their bed, he vacillated on being a cat lover/cat hater. :lol:
:funn:That's cats for you.
sbartoldus avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#37
BR, you are not alone in this misunderstanding which is why I posted. I come in contact daily with the issue and just wanted to get some education out there. There are many alternatives out there and I applaud you for keeping an open mind and heart!

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Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#38
Phew...I feel better now. Thanks for taking all this advice, opinions and well, whatever. Most people I come in contact with think the same thing...only the nail. Good Luck! :clap: Looking forward to hearing your stories about your new friend! When does he/she arrive?

I break for squirrels too, turtles, mice, armadillos (they are so slow), and just about anything that can cross a road!;-)

Late May.

Actually one day as I was driving down our driveway, I saw a turtle in the middle of the road. I picked it up, and liquid started flowing out of its shell. I thought it was wet from swimming in the lake. Then I realized it was peeing on me! I carried it away from the road. When I came back home, it was gone. So thankfully it didn't get smushed.

I would run over armadillos if my car weren't so low profile. They gross me out.

I don't break for snakes. One day a copperhead was in the driveway near the garage. I ran over it about 20 times on purpose. I know my neighbor wondered what the heck I was doing driving forward and backward repeatedly in the driveway. It totally freaked out our maid. She was scared to take out the trash from then on. Later I went out to check on the snake, and it was gone! :eek: It lived through my assault and made its way all the way down to the street. Within hours, ants had stripped it.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#39
Late May.

Actually one day as I was driving down our driveway, I saw a turtle in the middle of the road. I picked it up, and liquid started flowing out of its shell. I thought it was wet from swimming in the lake. Then I realized it was peeing on me! I carried it away from the road. When I came back home, it was gone. So thankfully it didn't get smushed.

How ungrateful!
I don't break for snakes. One day a copperhead was in the driveway near the garage. I ran over it about 20 times on purpose. I know my neighbor wondered what the heck I was doing driving forward and backward repeatedly in the driveway. It totally freaked out our maid. She was scared to take out the trash from then on. Later I went out to check on the snake, and it was gone! :eek: It lived through my assault and made its way all the way down to the street. Within hours, ants had stripped it.
My guess is that some critter was thinking about a snake snack. I hear they taste like chicken.

Glad you are second-guessing the declawing. I didn't realize how traumatic it was, either until I read this. I've always been afraid to do it just in case the cat got out of the house. (The BB and FFF cats are indoor cats like Smudge was because of their long, fine fur.)

I do look forward to the FFF cat getting out of the kitten stage. He still likes to play the Venus flytrap game, where he rolls over on his back, exposing his tummy (which has recently become enormous.) You can't help but rub a giant kitty tummy. But then he clamps down with all five of his sharp ends--chomp. It's very cute, but it's also difficult to escape unscathed. :lol:

He more than makes up for it by licking my toes. That's some of the best tickling in the world! :wub:
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#40
How ungrateful!

My guess is that some critter was thinking about a snake snack. I hear they taste like chicken.

Glad you are second-guessing the declawing. I didn't realize how traumatic it was, either until I read this. I've always been afraid to do it just in case the cat got out of the house. (The BB and FFF cats are indoor cats like Smudge was because of their long, fine fur.)

I do look forward to the FFF cat getting out of the kitten stage. He still likes to play the Venus flytrap game, where he rolls over on his back, exposing his tummy (which has recently become enormous.) You can't help but rub a giant kitty tummy. But then he clamps down with all five of his sharp ends--chomp. It's very cute, but it's also difficult to escape unscathed. :lol:

He more than makes up for it by licking my toes. That's some of the best tickling in the world! :wub:
Daughter says kitty licking is better than doggy licking due to the rough tongue. From what she says, kitty gets freaked out easily. About a month ago, kitty got freaked and scratched the heck out of daughter's foot. The first reaction by those in the know is asking if she's into cutting. No, she has a cat, they are crazy, and I don't understand them.

I am a dog person.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#41
I am the only one that thinks Miss Kitty's been banned whenever this thread pops up?
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#42
I am the only one that thinks Miss Kitty's been banned whenever this thread pops up?

:floor:...you have been on a roll lately!

BR...keep us posted on this cat visitor. And, please tell me you will not be paying to have BJ's furniture and linens replaced. She needs to live with it. :wave:
beachmouse avatar
Beach Fanatic
#43
I do look forward to the FFF cat getting out of the kitten stage. He still likes to play the Venus flytrap game, where he rolls over on his back, exposing his tummy (which has recently become enormous.) You can't help but rub a giant kitty tummy. But then he clamps down with all five of his sharp ends--chomp. It's very cute, but it's also difficult to escape unscathed. :lol:

A friend on another board describes that as the Venus hand trap. For some cats, showing the belly target is always going to be a sign that they want to play, and the bestest thing ever for them then is a stuffed animal they can pounce on and bunny kick to their heart's content.

As for cats, you can't train them like dogs because they see the rules as subjective and within specific contexts when the dogs view rules as absolute. But you can set it up to significantly reduce and discourage undesirable behavior. Junior cat hates the sound of an electric toothbrush, so when we were trying to get him to Stop That! we'd turn it on any time we'd see the undesirable behavior and it generally works.
NOLA TRANSPLANT avatar
Beach Lover
#44
Since the cat in question is a known violator of $ furnishings (and I blame the owner BTW, as I do w/ all poorly behaved pets and children), I don't think BR is being unreasonable to want to protect her house from its new tenant.

Do they really cut its toes off when they declaw it? :blink:

Lets declaw you then sweetness.
Pets are OUR RESPONSIBILITY if we cant handle the responsibility then we dont need them.

Bring me the cat Ill give it a loving pain free home
SoWal Insider
#45
Lets declaw you then sweetness.
Pets are OUR RESPONSIBILITY if we cant handle the responsibility then we dont need them.

Bring me the cat Ill give it a loving pain free home

:clap:
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#46
Pets are OUR RESPONSIBILITY if we cant handle the responsibility then we dont need them.

Which is why I said a misbehaving pet is the owner's fault and questioned the details of the procedure - always thought it was a permanent manicure, not amputations! :wave:
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#47
A friend on another board describes that as the Venus hand trap. For some cats, showing the belly target is always going to be a sign that they want to play, and the bestest thing ever for them then is a stuffed animal they can pounce on and bunny kick to their heart's content.

They do that to each other. Very entertaining to watch two cats bunny kick each other in the head simultaneously...:lol:
AAbsolute avatar
Banned
#48
:floor:...you have been on a roll lately!

BR...keep us posted on this cat visitor. And, please tell me you will not be paying to have BJ's furniture and linens replaced. She needs to live with it. :wave:

I came over as soon as I saw the Thread title. I just knew he'd have something for you.
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#49
They do that to each other. Very entertaining to watch two cats bunny kick each other in the head simultaneously...:lol:

Cowboy tries to do this to Sweet Pea, course her head is the size of the cat - what is he thinkin??? :blink:
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#50
I've thought about the declawing issue for years. I'm always getting scratched, hissed at, my leg's getting sprayed so she can make sure that everyone knows that I'm "her" territory. Finally I had enough and went to the Vet.
He told me my wife wasn't nearly as bad as I have described...

:funn:
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#51
Hubby has started a consulting business on the side. His partner's wife has 40 cats, 6 horses, and 5 dogs. One of their German clients sent them the photo below yesterday, not knowing about our cat issue. He does know that daughter's fianc? is German, but doesn't know that he is a cat lover (JP and daughter are dog lovers, too).

BTW I would never consider declawing daughter's cat after what Pepper had to go through with just one cancerous toe. Coincidentally, I just got an email from a friend to runs the standard poodle toe cancer registry. :cry: The good news is that what happened to Pepper might save Ava's life.

Hi ~

Ava had a 6th toe amputated last Friday. Today, I received the results. It was not SCC like her other toes, but melanoma.

How is Pepper doing? I was thinking of both of you when I heard the result, and for some reason I had even mentioned to my vet that I hoped it was SCC, and not melanoma. I think it was because Ava was biting this nail which is something she didn`t do a lot with her SCC toes. I remember when you told me Pepper kept you awake one night biting at her toe. That was the key for me in recommending he have the toe amputated.
This is the third toe disorder for Ava; 5 SCC toes, symmetrical lupoid onychodystrophy, and now melanoma. It`s hard to believe one dog can be so unlucky.

Please write if you get a chance and let me know how Pepper is doing.

Lynn
SCC


As for the photo below, :yikes:. The photo is actually from a website of someone who likes cats. I haven't done any German since I had to learn it to get a Ph.D. in math, so I can't read it.

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