After all the recent news on corruption taking place in various law enforcement agencies, someone actually thinks its OK... Why has no local (Sun or Herald) made mention of this news story?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ex-city marshal hopes to return (with DOCUMENT)
Comments 16 | Recommend 3
Ray Burgess, who left office in 2005, is 1 of 3 candidates in April 14 election
March 15, 2009 - 10:03 PM
Andrew Gant
Daily News
DeFUNIAK SPRINGS - Ray "Buddy" Burgess, a former city marshal who retired under ethics complaints and criminal charges for falsifying documents, is trying to reclaim the office that has been vacant since Mike Adkinson became Walton County sheriff in January.
If he wins the April 14 marshal's election, Burgess would return to law enforcement more than three years after he lost his police certification, paid thousands of dollars in fines and faced censure and reprimand from the state Commission on Ethics.
"People are going to make their choices," he said Saturday. "Most people know me ... The circumstances, they're not just plain black and white."
Burgess faces two opponents: Police Capt. Mark A. Weeks, the acting supervisor at the DeFuniak Springs Police Department, and Walton County Sheriff's Deputy Jimmy Macon, who ran for sheriff last year.
Burgess pleaded no contest in 2005 to charges that, as city marshal, he falsified documents to help a Walton sheriff's deputy avoid re-certification testing. One of Burgess' employees quit under pressure to help him.
He retired after the first-degree misdemeanor plea. Gov. Charlie Crist last year ordered Burgess to pay $3,500 in civil penalties.
The ethics commission also found probable cause to believe Burgess enlisted a police officer to report fraudulent overtime hours so the officer could receive more pay and kick back the money to Burgess.
Burgess still denies those allegations. They were dropped from his civil punishment, according to ethics commission spokeswoman Kerrie Stillman.
On Saturday, Burgess said he invites residents to call him if they have questions about his past.
"I'll give them my side of the story and they can make their own conclusions," he said, adding that he's taken responsibility for the falsifications "to help a fellow law officer."
Weeks and Macon did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.
Replies
54
SoWal Expert
Good gravy! One can only hope that the other 2 candidates will have a field day w/ this! 
Seriously, how is there not something in place to make someone like this ineligible?
Seriously, how is there not something in place to make someone like this ineligible?
Edited
SoWal Insider
The Herald covered the Burgess story in-depth as it transpired and I expect a recap to be assigned as the city election draws closer. Not to sound gruff, most everyone in Dfs that gets to vote are well aware of this issue.
Beach Lover
The one Ray helped out was the old #2 at So from the Pre-Johnson days and guess what he is back as the Under Sheriff under Mike............
Beach Fanatic
Good gravy! One can only hope that the other 2 candidates will have a field day w/ this!
Seriously, how is there not something in place to make someone like this ineligible?
I guess if not convicted in court then its all good. Stuff like this expands outward so things like the sallys nonsense gains traction and in the end the community gets hurt
Beach Fanatic
The one Ray helped out was the old #2 at So from the Pre-Johnson days and guess what he is back as the Under Sheriff under Mike............
Which is perfectly OK, as IIRC he didn't ask to be "helped."
needs to get out more
I am sure the voters in DFS will place the proper candidate in office.
Beach Fanatic
Holding the high moral ground, if it looks bad it may as well be. There are other recent incidences of appearances of wrongdoing, Charlie Morris, Ray Sansom, Jay Odom, Chris Hughes, Bob Richbourg and some of the nominations of President Obama fall into that catagory
Beach Lover
After all the recent news on corruption taking place in various law enforcement agencies, someone actually thinks its OK... Why has no local (Sun or Herald) made mention of this news story?
Ray made an error in judgement, but I wouldn't call him corupt. He made a mistake, he admitted it, and now he wants another chance. I see nothing wrong with him running again.
He was a very popular Chief, and I suspect he probably will be again.;-)
SoWal Expert
Based on the initial article posted and Aleo's comments it would seem there was more than "one mistake" - more like multiple instances. :roll:
SoWal Insider
Scoot, I belive anyone who read the Herald then are aware of the Burgress case and are informed voters. I in no way can pass on a personal opinion on the case or his choice to run for office nor did I believe my former post infered it : )
We can only know what the voters think when the election results come in : )
We can only know what the voters think when the election results come in : )
SoWal Expert
AL - I didn't mean to imply that you had an opinion or bias. 
If it was rumors or an isolated mistake, the local paper couldn't do "in-depth" coverage w/o getting sued...........and wouldn't do a "recap" closer to the election for the same reason.
Plus an "isolated mistake" doesn't tend to get multiple articles either - no reader interest.
If it was rumors or an isolated mistake, the local paper couldn't do "in-depth" coverage w/o getting sued...........and wouldn't do a "recap" closer to the election for the same reason.
Plus an "isolated mistake" doesn't tend to get multiple articles either - no reader interest.
Beach ComberAuthor
Crime = Mistake...
After conducting some research and reading through some of the posts, I guess being arrested & convicted (took a plea, if innocent why take a plea?) of a Crime equals a "mistake". With that said, should an elected official, one who is supposed to uphold the law and takes an oath be allowed to make such a "mistake"? The office is held to a higher standard, not a lower one. Sounds like the title of an old Steven Segal Movie; "ABOVE THE LAW". :angry:
In addition, this "mistake" maker is not even a Certified Law Enforcement Officer any longer. He lost his certification as part of the whole plea. If one reads the public record, it also states the Ethics Board found Probable Cause that other corrupt activities may have occurred under his mistake ridden watch. It specifically cites the logging of false over time hours which were then alleged to have been kicked back to the Chief. Sounds like a little Morris action there.
In this time of corruption, the last thing this area needs is more attention attracted to itself due to poor pubic servants/officials running the show.
After conducting some research and reading through some of the posts, I guess being arrested & convicted (took a plea, if innocent why take a plea?) of a Crime equals a "mistake". With that said, should an elected official, one who is supposed to uphold the law and takes an oath be allowed to make such a "mistake"? The office is held to a higher standard, not a lower one. Sounds like the title of an old Steven Segal Movie; "ABOVE THE LAW". :angry:
In addition, this "mistake" maker is not even a Certified Law Enforcement Officer any longer. He lost his certification as part of the whole plea. If one reads the public record, it also states the Ethics Board found Probable Cause that other corrupt activities may have occurred under his mistake ridden watch. It specifically cites the logging of false over time hours which were then alleged to have been kicked back to the Chief. Sounds like a little Morris action there.
In this time of corruption, the last thing this area needs is more attention attracted to itself due to poor pubic servants/officials running the show.
needs to get out more
In this time of corruption, the last thing this area needs is more attention attracted to itself due to poor pubic servants/officials running the show.
Yes, and some WC citizens would just as soon sweep things under the rug to have a friend back in office. Opening the door to one's transgressor just doesn't seem too smart.
Beach Fanatic
Popular
Popular Chief? With whom, those who he allowed to "buy their way out" of DUI's and other criminal infractions? Give me a break.
Charlie Morris made a mistake, let's give him another chance as well.
Ray made an error in judgement, but I wouldn't call him corupt. He made a mistake, he admitted it, and now he wants another chance. I see nothing wrong with him running again.
He was a very popular Chief, and I suspect he probably will be again.;-)
Popular Chief? With whom, those who he allowed to "buy their way out" of DUI's and other criminal infractions? Give me a break.
Charlie Morris made a mistake, let's give him another chance as well.
Beach ComberAuthor
Ha ha
Another blog has an entry of this guy being said to have held on to warrants in his desk, never serving them... Selective Enforcement of the law, vote for me!!!
Another blog has an entry of this guy being said to have held on to warrants in his desk, never serving them... Selective Enforcement of the law, vote for me!!!
Beach ComberAuthor
Down to two
I guess only two of the three candidates actually qualified for the election. This crook was one of them... This is becoming more and more like the twilight zone with corruption on all levels. Sick.
I guess only two of the three candidates actually qualified for the election. This crook was one of them... This is becoming more and more like the twilight zone with corruption on all levels. Sick.
Beach ComberAuthor
Theft and Fraud in DeFuniak Springs
Since posting a string a few weeks ago, I must say that I am surprised and concerned as to the little attention it has received on this blog. Political Issues were at one time, important to this community, especially those involving Law Enforcement.
I, as an educated voter, base my choices on fact, not emotion. I do not select candidates based on how long I have known a candidate and that my mother?s grandma?s grandma knew someone?s family from the ?old days?. Facts are important in making these decisions; I believe that they are the most important thing.
I also believe that the media and journalists have an obligation to report these facts, not spin them or avoid them. Why is it that the NW FL Daily News, a paper from Ft. Walton Beach, has covered Ray Burgess and his moral, ethical and legal troubles, yet our ?local? papers have Failed to report the facts? Is there an agenda there? Does one or both support this candidate? Where is the journalistic integrity?
Let me be one to provide you with facts, not emotion.
Complaint No. 05-110 State of Florida, In re. Ray Neal Burgess/Respondent, states:
The Respondent (Burgess) had violated Section 112.313(6) Florida Statues in two instances.
1) ?by using his position as Chief of Police of DFS to falsify FDLE officer certification records.
(This is FRAUD, Do we want someone who would ?falsify records? in a position of authority, let alone that of law enforcement?) What else would they ?falsify??
2) ?by misusing his position to solicit a subordinate officer to increase the officer?s over time hours claimed, at to allow (Burgess) to pocket the unearned overtime pay.
(This is THEFT, Theft of the citizens of DFS tax money. It is also Fraud, falsely reporting earnings. This is the same premise that Charlie Morris used to commit his Federal Crimes. What else has this candidate stolen? Maybe the Feds need to come to DFS.)
The Complaint goes on to outline other issues surrounding this candidate and their business practices. Anyone with commonsense can see, based on FACTS stated above, this man is a CRIMINAL. He can try to spin what he did any way he wants, most criminals all attempt to justify their crimes. After further investigation, it is also no surprise to me that this candidate has campaign signs in the yards of residents who are convicted felons/criminals.
As for my agenda, it is simple. Ensure quality law enforcement in our area, out those who commit fraud while in public office and provide facts to citizens when our media will not. Wake up and educate yourselves.
Since posting a string a few weeks ago, I must say that I am surprised and concerned as to the little attention it has received on this blog. Political Issues were at one time, important to this community, especially those involving Law Enforcement.
I, as an educated voter, base my choices on fact, not emotion. I do not select candidates based on how long I have known a candidate and that my mother?s grandma?s grandma knew someone?s family from the ?old days?. Facts are important in making these decisions; I believe that they are the most important thing.
I also believe that the media and journalists have an obligation to report these facts, not spin them or avoid them. Why is it that the NW FL Daily News, a paper from Ft. Walton Beach, has covered Ray Burgess and his moral, ethical and legal troubles, yet our ?local? papers have Failed to report the facts? Is there an agenda there? Does one or both support this candidate? Where is the journalistic integrity?
Let me be one to provide you with facts, not emotion.
Complaint No. 05-110 State of Florida, In re. Ray Neal Burgess/Respondent, states:
The Respondent (Burgess) had violated Section 112.313(6) Florida Statues in two instances.
1) ?by using his position as Chief of Police of DFS to falsify FDLE officer certification records.
(This is FRAUD, Do we want someone who would ?falsify records? in a position of authority, let alone that of law enforcement?) What else would they ?falsify??
2) ?by misusing his position to solicit a subordinate officer to increase the officer?s over time hours claimed, at to allow (Burgess) to pocket the unearned overtime pay.
(This is THEFT, Theft of the citizens of DFS tax money. It is also Fraud, falsely reporting earnings. This is the same premise that Charlie Morris used to commit his Federal Crimes. What else has this candidate stolen? Maybe the Feds need to come to DFS.)
The Complaint goes on to outline other issues surrounding this candidate and their business practices. Anyone with commonsense can see, based on FACTS stated above, this man is a CRIMINAL. He can try to spin what he did any way he wants, most criminals all attempt to justify their crimes. After further investigation, it is also no surprise to me that this candidate has campaign signs in the yards of residents who are convicted felons/criminals.
As for my agenda, it is simple. Ensure quality law enforcement in our area, out those who commit fraud while in public office and provide facts to citizens when our media will not. Wake up and educate yourselves.
Beach Fanatic
I have read your post and remember when this occured. Was it the current undersheriff that was involved that started all this? If this is the case, didn't he work for the current Sheriff at DFS PD?
Beach Fanatic
Pete, one thing that you might want to consider is that most of the people who actively post on this board are unable to vote or make a difference in this election. Sure, there are a few who live within the city limits of DeFuniak Springs. Lots of people from DFS do read this board, but many won't enter into a discussion. Unlike the Sheriff's race, a majority of the folks can only stand back and observe.
needs to get out more
Did you forget you covered the same in this thread? http://www.sowal.com/bb/local-government/33845-corrupt-cop-wants-back.html
bumping the old thread is more efficient, as the view count will attract new viewers. making numerous threads may dilute your message. you referenced a blog, did you make a blog post somewhere regarding this subject also?
bumping the old thread is more efficient, as the view count will attract new viewers. making numerous threads may dilute your message. you referenced a blog, did you make a blog post somewhere regarding this subject also?
Beach Fanatic
Pete, one thing that you might want to consider is that most of the people who actively post on this board are unable to vote or make a difference in this election. Sure, there are a few who live within the city limits of DeFuniak Springs. Lots of people from DFS do read this board, but many won't enter into a discussion. Unlike the Sheriff's race, a majority of the folks can only stand back and observe.
Hmmm....I was not getting any play on this on the Tampa Bay blogs either. I wonder if that is why.
Banned
Hmmm....I was not getting any play on this on the Tampa Bay blogs either. I wonder if that is why.
Beach ComberAuthor
I have read your post and remember when this occured. Was it the current undersheriff that was involved that started all this? If this is the case, didn't he work for the current Sheriff at DFS PD?
As for "started all this", I think that was extensively covered in posts prior to the Sheriff's Election. The person who's paperwork was altered, forged, doctored, by Ray Burgess did work at DPS PD and he now is at the SO. Regardless, Burgess committed a crime. Spin it anyway you wish. His booking photo is in Okaloosa.
Beach ComberAuthor
Pay to Play with Ray.
I appreciate all of you attempts at humor with regards to a forum for this conversation, it basically supports my point and stance.
Does anyone care that a criminal is running for the Chief of Police in DFS? Do you? We just got rid of a terrible sheriff last year. Morris is arrested on federal charges and you all want to banter about where a proper forum is to discuss Ray Burgess and his lack of ability, integrity and morals.
Why did Northwest Florida Daily run an article and the Herald/Beach Breeze has not? Why? Does the Breeze not reach South Walton Readers? I know it does , it reaches Freeport too.
If readers think this does not effect them, they are out of touch and uninformed. Can you imagine how things would be if Ray Burgess returned to office? What a joke, it would be the joke of the panhandle. Not to mention, turn the attention of the Feds right back to Walton County. No more pay to play with Ray.
For once our local agencies are starting to act like local agencies, they communicate, partner together and work side by side. No more fighting, bickering, etc. Is this not the path we want to continue on?
Corruption has NO place here. DeFuniak Springs has dodged the bullet once when Ray was slapped on the wrist (which is what it was, a slap). Had the Feds investigated he'd be in Federal Prison.
Thank you for your comments about the proper place to post this context. I feel it is the duty of the local papers to report the news, the facts. If they fail to do so, I'll post it here.
I appreciate all of you attempts at humor with regards to a forum for this conversation, it basically supports my point and stance.
Does anyone care that a criminal is running for the Chief of Police in DFS? Do you? We just got rid of a terrible sheriff last year. Morris is arrested on federal charges and you all want to banter about where a proper forum is to discuss Ray Burgess and his lack of ability, integrity and morals.
Why did Northwest Florida Daily run an article and the Herald/Beach Breeze has not? Why? Does the Breeze not reach South Walton Readers? I know it does , it reaches Freeport too.
If readers think this does not effect them, they are out of touch and uninformed. Can you imagine how things would be if Ray Burgess returned to office? What a joke, it would be the joke of the panhandle. Not to mention, turn the attention of the Feds right back to Walton County. No more pay to play with Ray.
For once our local agencies are starting to act like local agencies, they communicate, partner together and work side by side. No more fighting, bickering, etc. Is this not the path we want to continue on?
Corruption has NO place here. DeFuniak Springs has dodged the bullet once when Ray was slapped on the wrist (which is what it was, a slap). Had the Feds investigated he'd be in Federal Prison.
Thank you for your comments about the proper place to post this context. I feel it is the duty of the local papers to report the news, the facts. If they fail to do so, I'll post it here.
Edited
Beach Comber
Reply
Pete:
As a registered voter, I can appreciate your attempt at calling attention to the circumstances involving Burgess and his time in office here in DeFuniak. Most of the educated voters are well aware of this activity, that documented and that which is rumored. Although I do not think many understand the full detail of what happened (crimes did occur) and how it has the potential to negatively affect us again.
Not many people read this blog site, but those who do are informed and up to speed with current goings on. You do bring up a very good point on the local paper here, the Herald, not reporting on this situation. They were quick to jump on it when it first hit the news a few years ago, running as story also in 2007.
It is my opinion, being from a small town, that the paper does not want to loose any advertising revenue during this time of politics in the City. There are several races running and each candidate has some money to spread around. The Herald wants as much as they can get and I think they'll avoid any actual reporting and investigating and just run ads. This is why I don't subscribe to them any longer...
I feel your pain.
Pete:
As a registered voter, I can appreciate your attempt at calling attention to the circumstances involving Burgess and his time in office here in DeFuniak. Most of the educated voters are well aware of this activity, that documented and that which is rumored. Although I do not think many understand the full detail of what happened (crimes did occur) and how it has the potential to negatively affect us again.
Not many people read this blog site, but those who do are informed and up to speed with current goings on. You do bring up a very good point on the local paper here, the Herald, not reporting on this situation. They were quick to jump on it when it first hit the news a few years ago, running as story also in 2007.
It is my opinion, being from a small town, that the paper does not want to loose any advertising revenue during this time of politics in the City. There are several races running and each candidate has some money to spread around. The Herald wants as much as they can get and I think they'll avoid any actual reporting and investigating and just run ads. This is why I don't subscribe to them any longer...
I feel your pain.
Checking your forum account
Please wait while we verify your forum account.