Please watch the 10pm edition of the Channel 7 News tonight. They will be airing a story regarding a serious issue brought before the BCC at this afternoon's meeting.
Alan
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109Beach Comber
It's not the first time a Co. Commissioner for Walton Co. has been caught in real estate transactions. I had a near miss with one a few years ago......poor guy literally went under.
Nothing wrong with having real estate dealings, but when a Commissioner uses (or, it appears) his/her position on the Board to benefit their real estate development dealings, that's unethical.
The lots had covenants and restrictions that allowed for commercial and the development order expired after the new owners didn't proceed with the project. Check your facts first!
SoWal Insider
The lots had covenants and restrictions that allowed for commercial and the development order expired after the new owners didn't proceed with the project. Check your facts first!
No worries. I checked all of my facts while I was dealing with him. And, this about the commercial covenants and restrictions has nothing to do with my experience with him as a developer. At the time he was also Co. Commissioner. He lost the following election, however. There was also an issue with him and the school adjacent to his development. KARMA!
Have a pleasant evening!
SWGB
I agree that you and yours seems to be getting the royal ***** job from SanDestin. I think the courts should be the proper venue to force them to keep their word. Most people without an interest in this issue would be on your side.
But, you lose me with this grandstand play on Mr. Brannon. While you probably achieved your goal ( publicity for your cause) many people without an interest in this issue think such tactics are unfair. I am one of them. Thus, while you may gain in the short-term, I believe you damage your cause in the long-term.
As to a "thank you" vote, I really don't care. My sense of right/wrong does not change at the whim of the crowd.
Best of luck to you.
Why are you defending a politician who did something illegal or unethical? At this point in my life politicians found guilty of corruption or unethical dealings should be tarred and feathered.
Not in the BCC chambers as that's pretty messy, maybe out in the grass of the roundabout.
Beach Fanatic
I agree that you and yours seems to be getting the royal ***** job from SanDestin. I think the courts should be the proper venue to force them to keep their word. Most people without an interest in this issue would be on your side.I normally agree with most of your positions but for the life of me, I cannot understand how you can call Alan's position on Commissioner Brannon "grandstanding". He has accurately quoted the state statute regarding when you should recuse yourself from a Commission vote. To me, it is very clear, but then maybe I don't interpret the English language correctly. I don't think Alan has hurt his cause at all, is a credit to the county and is more up to speed on this issue that ANYONE in the county. As to the "whim of the crowd" I certainly am not affected by such. However, I do understand "facts" when they are presented to me when, indeed, they are "facts". As I see it, Alan has presented "facts" as what he has presented all come from official and filed sources. Some people need to start realizing just how dedicated and correct this man is. We certainly need more of his kind in Walton County.
But, you lose me with this grandstand play on Mr. Brannon. While you probably achieved your goal ( publicity for your cause) many people without an interest in this issue think such tactics are unfair. I am one of them. Thus, while you may gain in the short-term, I believe you damage your cause in the long-term.
As to a "thank you" vote, I really don't care. My sense of right/wrong does not change at the whim of the crowd.
Best of luck to you.
Beach Fanatic
I totally agree, Andy.
And, I would much rather have Alan a bit aggressive in his approach (not that I think he was), but if he was, that would be preferable to me than letting the possibility of the conflict of interest continue to be ignored, or pushed under the table, out of the sunshine.
IMO more people in this county need to get as involved as Alan is!
And, I would much rather have Alan a bit aggressive in his approach (not that I think he was), but if he was, that would be preferable to me than letting the possibility of the conflict of interest continue to be ignored, or pushed under the table, out of the sunshine.
IMO more people in this county need to get as involved as Alan is!
Beach Fanatic
Why are you defending a politician who did something illegal or unethical? At this point in my life politicians found guilty of corruption or unethical dealings should be tarred and feathered.
Not in the BCC chambers as that's pretty messy, maybe out in the grass of the roundabout.
What jury/board/commission has found Mr. Brannon guilty of anything? Seems "innocent until proven guilty" has been ignored or forgotten.
Such a "charred earth' outlook as yours is exactly why more and more good potential candidates do not choose to run for office. Why risk their reputations when people are ready to tar and feather them at the slightest hint that they may have violated a rule or code.
Beach Fanatic
I normally agree with most of your positions but for the life of me, I cannot understand how you can call Alan's position on Commissioner Brannon "grandstanding". He has accurately quoted the state statute regarding when you should recuse yourself from a Commission vote. To me, it is very clear, but then maybe I don't interpret the English language correctly. I don't think Alan has hurt his cause at all, is a credit to the county and is more up to speed on this issue that ANYONE in the county. As to the "whim of the crowd" I certainly am not affected by such. However, I do understand "facts" when they are presented to me when, indeed, they are "facts". As I see it, Alan has presented "facts" as what he has presented all come from official and filed sources. Some people need to start realizing just how dedicated and correct this man is. We certainly need more of his kind in Walton County.
My definition of "grandstanding" is to bring charges in a meeting before a board with zero jurisdiction over the alleged behavior. The proper venue for this issue is the state ethics commission. I also am uncomfortable with accusing someone of wrongdoing via "ambush." I also don't see the connection between Mr.Brannon's votes and the alleged conflict. Seems if he wanted to help is friend/partner's lots increase in value, he would vote to SUPPORT the homeowners.
I normally agree with you Andy, but on this one I guess we must agree to disagree agreeably.
SoWal Expert
What jury/board/commission has found Mr. Brannon guilty of anything? Seems "innocent until proven guilty" has been ignored or forgotten.
Yes, it is true that Brannon has not yet been found guilty...............I apologize for jumping to conclusions based solely on his past behavior, past ethical problems, my knowledge of his character, and the evidence presented.
SWGB
What jury/board/commission has found Mr. Brannon guilty of anything? Seems "innocent until proven guilty" has been ignored or forgotten.
Such a "charred earth' outlook as yours is exactly why more and more good potential candidates do not choose to run for office. Why risk their reputations when people are ready to tar and feather them at the slightest hint that they may have violated a rule or code.
Yes, it is true that Brannon has not yet been found guilty...............I apologize for jumping to conclusions based solely on his past behavior, past ethical problems, my knowledge of his character, and the evidence presented.
It's funny how someones past actions could possibly cloud allegations in the future.
Beach Fanatic
My definition of "grandstanding" is to bring charges in a meeting before a board with zero jurisdiction over the alleged behavior. The proper venue for this issue is the state ethics commission. I also am uncomfortable with accusing someone of wrongdoing via "ambush." I also don't see the connection between Mr.Brannon's votes and the alleged conflict. Seems if he wanted to help is friend/partner's lots increase in value, he would vote to SUPPORT the homeowners.I guess so. Since the 70 lots in question, if I understand correctly, cannot legally be used to build on because they are in the area designated as "storm water drainage", I can readily understand Alan's position as do most of us who have followed this issue for any length of time.
I normally agree with you Andy, but on this one I guess we must agree to disagree agreeably.
SoWal Insider
I think we paid about 14K per lot for the MSBU and about 250 per quarter for the HOA.
You personally write a check to the soa every quarter for $250.00 but you don't have access to the common areas? How can the soa enforce that upon you? I would just stop paying.
Beach Fanatic
You personally write a check to the soa every quarter for $250.00 but you don't have access to the common areas? How can the soa enforce that upon you? I would just stop paying.
When will the public apology to Mr Brannon occur ?
i hear at the next BCC mtg. Gotta see this.
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Beach LoverAuthor
When will the public apology to Mr Brannon occur ?
i hear at the next BCC mtg. Gotta see this.[
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AAHHHH! Intrested Girl, I missed you. Shades of election season, I see my test of the Gossip chain is complete.
Come on up in front of the BCC and state your case. Better read this before you come. Note, it's just two days after I appeared before the BCC.
"Luuucccy, ju've got some splaaaaning to do."
Let's see them answer all these letters from the state.
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Beach Fanatic
AAHHHH! Intrested Girl, I missed you. Shades of election season, I see my test of the Gossip chain is complete.
Come on up in front of the BCC and state your case. Better read this before you come. Note, it's just two days after I appeared before the BCC.
"Luuucccy, ju've got some splaaaaning to do."
Let's see them answer all these letters from the state.
Could you turn up the dpi setting on your scanner? Those pdf files were awful, if they are yours. If not, then someone at the county needs some training.
For what it is worth, I was told about your plan to apologize by a County Commissioner. I told them I thought that strange because I had heard you had a whole lot more to say. Also told you and Brannon had met and worked out your differences. Yes the rumor mill is a fascinating thing in Walton County.
Beach Comber
You personally write a check to the soa every quarter for $250.00 but you don't have access to the common areas? How can the soa enforce that upon you? I would just stop paying.
Driftwood Estates owners don't pay SOA (Sandestin Owners Association) dues; Alan and the other Driftwood Estates owners pay quarterly dues to their own homeowners association (Driftwood Estates HOA). These are two separate entities.
Hence they don't have usage rights to the common areas maintained by the Sandestin Owners Association.....and funded by Sandestin owners that pay SOA dues. Seems fair to me.
SoWal Expert
Driftwood Estates owners don't pay SOA (Sandestin Owners Association) dues; Alan and the other Driftwood Estates owners pay quarterly dues to their own homeowners association (Driftwood Estates HOA). These are two separate entities.
Hence they don't have usage rights to the common areas maintained by the Sandestin Owners Association.....and funded by Sandestin owners that pay SOA dues. Seems fair to me.
If you read the second attachment in Alan's above post, you will see why Driftwood owners believe that the do have specific rights of usage for certain Sandestin amenities. It is noted in the first page of that pdf.
Alan, perhaps you could also provide us with, "Attachment 2," noted in the first pdf.
I'm curious to read it.More interesting to me is the second attachment in Alan's previous post, which on the last page explains some history and connections of people employed by the County, also working for the defendant. I've heard about some of the connections before, but Holy Cow! -- those are very interesting, especially if they are proven to be true.

Beach Comber
If you read the second attachment in Alan's above post, you will see why Driftwood owners believe that the do have specific rights of usage for certain Sandestin amenities. It is noted in the first page of that pdf.
It also states that the Driftwood owners themselves did not approve in sufficient numbers of joining the association that pays for and maintains the 4 rights of usage that are listed in the letter.
Thus, "the residents are not entitled to participate in the amenities within Sandestin becasue they (Driftwood residents) did not desire to pay the amenity fee as required."
Beach Fanatic
Could you turn up the dpi setting on your scanner? Those pdf files were awful, if they are yours. If not, then someone at the county needs some training.
For what it is worth, I was told about your plan to apologize by a County Commissioner. I told them I thought that strange because I had heard you had a whole lot more to say. Also told you and Brannon had met and worked out your differences. Yes the rumor mill is a fascinating thing in Walton County.
sounds like a good case of jumping the gun.

Beach Comber
Speaking of election rumors, is it true that Pat Blackshear has stated that she was considering running for district five in three years?
Seems that Alan will have to contend with her in the future, no matter the outcome of Driftwood
Seems that Alan will have to contend with her in the future, no matter the outcome of Driftwood
SoWal Expert
It also states that the Driftwood owners themselves did not approve in sufficient numbers of joining the association that pays for and maintains the 4 rights of usage that are listed in the letter.
Thus, "the residents are not entitled to participate in the amenities within Sandestin becasue they (Driftwood residents) did not desire to pay the amenity fee as required."
In the part which notes the 4 rights of usage, it is prefaced by stating that membership is not required to have those rights. Maybe I read it too fast, but that is how I understand it. Sounds like you see it differently. Did you read that part, too, or, did I completely make that up in my mind?
Beach Fanatic
Speaking of election rumors, is it true that Pat Blackshear has stated that she was considering running for district five in three years?
Seems that Alan will have to contend with her in the future, no matter the outcome of Driftwood
That would make little sense if you compare the salaries of the two positions.
Beach Comber
In the part which notes the 4 rights of usage, it is prefaced by stating that membership is not required to have those rights. Maybe I read it too fast, but that is how I understand it. Sounds like you see it differently. Did you read that part, too, or, did I completely make that up in my mind?
There are around 50 seperate "neighborhoods" within the Sandestin Resort (Village of Baytowne Wharf, Burnt Pine, Crystal Lake, etc.). Residents of each of these neighborhoods pay dues into both their neighborhood association and the Sandestin Owners Association (SOA). The neighborhood association provides services specific to that neighborhood (grass cutting, etc). SOA provides the 4 services listed in the letter (road maintenance, 2 pools, etc) and other common services such as security. This info is listed on the SOA homepage at www.sandestinowners.com (for reference).
If you read the letter from the Driftwood HOA, it states that Driftwood residents believe that they have a right of access to these common services. But by granting access, this effectively means that you have the right to use these services. However, on page 2 its stated that Driftwood residents themselves voted down joining the association that pays for and maintains these services.
In other words, unlike the other 50 neighborhoods within the Sandestin Resort (all of which are paying members of the SOA), Driftwood residents feel that they should have access and usage rights without having to pay ongoing maintenance fees.
What a deal.... I can't understand why the Sandestin Resort or the SOA is fighting this.
By the way, the letter from the Driftwood HOA is inexact and somewhat misleading because sometimes when it refers to "Sandestin" it means the Sandestin DRI (Development of Regional Impact) and sometimes it means the Sandestin Golf and Beach Resort. These are two totally separate and different legal entities.
Beach Comber
That would make little sense if you compare the salaries of the two positions.
If you wish to make a point or keep the bodies buried, it would make prefect sense
but there have been alot of rumors walton copunty will never run out of stories or story tellers
Beach LoverAuthor
Commissioners vote to overide free speech
this is one of the closing documents in our paperwork that has been submitttted to the DCA. We also have lots of title work that says we are a part of the Sandestin PUD and a letter from the state that says we have always been a part of Sandestin and the current Master Plan on file still says that. I'm sure they know they have the power by decleration to take the dues over for Driftwood since it has no common property left. They will never have the votes to take over our rights per the DRI. We're vested and have title insurance. There is active ethics complaints despite the rumors.View attachment 12793
There is a lot of questions I have to ask but as you've probably heard, at the last commission meeting I was told I am not allowed to speak in public anymore about Driftwood by unamious vote of the Walton County BCC.
This issue is far from over. I'm sure this will still be going on when the next election season rolls around. I'll have the opportunity of asking Kenneth and Sara the questions I wanted to ask now in the open forums. SJ, you and kurt can move this to a new thread as this is way off the title and I want the people to read the paperwork and the FACTS on Driftwood estates and the Sandestin DRI.
It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...
It's a neighborly day in this beauty wood,
A neighborly day for a beauty.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...
I've always wanted to have a neighbor just like you.
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.
So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?
Won't you please,
Won't you please?
Please won't you be my neighbor? Sung By Fred Rogers
If you read the second attachment in Alan's above post, you will see why Driftwood owners believe that the do have specific rights of usage for certain Sandestin amenities. It is noted in the first page of that pdf.Here ya go smiling joe,
Alan, perhaps you could also provide us with, "Attachment 2," noted in the first pdf.I'm curious to read it.
More interesting to me is the second attachment in Alan's previous post, which on the last page explains some history and connections of people employed by the County, also working for the defendant. I've heard about some of the connections before, but Holy Cow! -- those are very interesting, especially if they are proven to be true.
this is one of the closing documents in our paperwork that has been submitttted to the DCA. We also have lots of title work that says we are a part of the Sandestin PUD and a letter from the state that says we have always been a part of Sandestin and the current Master Plan on file still says that. I'm sure they know they have the power by decleration to take the dues over for Driftwood since it has no common property left. They will never have the votes to take over our rights per the DRI. We're vested and have title insurance. There is active ethics complaints despite the rumors.View attachment 12793
There is a lot of questions I have to ask but as you've probably heard, at the last commission meeting I was told I am not allowed to speak in public anymore about Driftwood by unamious vote of the Walton County BCC.
This issue is far from over. I'm sure this will still be going on when the next election season rolls around. I'll have the opportunity of asking Kenneth and Sara the questions I wanted to ask now in the open forums. SJ, you and kurt can move this to a new thread as this is way off the title and I want the people to read the paperwork and the FACTS on Driftwood estates and the Sandestin DRI.

It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...
It's a neighborly day in this beauty wood,
A neighborly day for a beauty.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?...
I've always wanted to have a neighbor just like you.
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.
So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?
Won't you please,
Won't you please?
Please won't you be my neighbor? Sung By Fred Rogers
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Beach Fanatic
what authority did they use to vote to keep you from speaking in a public meeting of elected officials?
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