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Seaside Chapel Changes

Beach Comber
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I'm new to the site. Trying to find out what is going on at Seaside Chapel. Love going to the chapel when we are there for the winter.

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NOLA TRANSPLANT avatar
Beach Lover
#2
Well from what I understand as long as you don't disturb the home owners you may visit.
Now with that being said, It is also to my understanding that today is the last meeting that the current congregation will be allowed to have at the Chapel.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#3
Well from what I understand as long as you don't disturb the home owners you may visit.
Now with that being said, It is also to my understanding that today is the last meeting that the current congregation will be allowed to have at the Chapel.

:popcorn:
tsutcli avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4
Well from what I understand as long as you don't disturb the home owners you may visit.
Now with that being said, It is also to my understanding that today is the last meeting that the current congregation will be allowed to have at the Chapel.
What's going on these days with Seaside? Heard another report that once the current reservations for weddings are done that they will not be doing weddings on the gazebos ( pavilions ) or other areas due to zoning issues with the county????? Does this mean no weddings at the chapel building also?
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#5
Hmmmm....

By the time I hit brunch the scuttlebutt was that the congregation was kicked out of the church because of nearby homeowner complaints about parking.

And the word I heard on weddings was that weddings of a certain size and already set were grandfathered in, but new weddings above a certain size were no longer allowed because of noise (and other) complaints.

Good gravy, just eat some prunes people!!! :bang:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#6
DD will be thrilled, once the transformation of Seaside is complete she'll have a fulltime job waiting for her up front at the admit office for Shady Acres.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#7
...and on the 7th day, God did this....:roll:.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#8
...and on the 7th day, God did this....:roll:.

Nah, the people responsible for this are backed by satan.
SGB avatar
Beach Fanatic
#9
Hmmmm....

By the time I hit brunch the scuttlebutt was that the congregation was kicked out of the church because of nearby homeowner complaints about parking.

And the word I heard on weddings was that weddings of a certain size and already set were grandfathered in, but new weddings above a certain size were no longer allowed because of noise (and other) complaints.

Good gravy, just eat some prunes people!!! :bang:

I am speechless but not that surprised!
Beach Comber
#10
I was at the service on sunday and there was no mention of parking issues. The gist I got from a very indirect message from Jeff Miller is that the board (and control) of the church itself is Seaside homeowners only. They ultimately have the say and control of church funds,

They had a resistance to the congregation request (who consists of mostly non-Seaside residents coming from all over) that they have some say to the use of 'offering' funds. It was my understanding that they board is to make the Chapel a for Seaside residents and their guests only 'amenity'. Not sure what this means. Perhaps pass cards and ving locks at the entrance ?

That is at leas what t I understood-- however many folks were speaking very indirectly in riddles. It was a very emotional and sad day. Perhaps the fact parishners left pennies strewn in the pews speaks to what the bottom line is.

Would love to hear more from those in the know for further clarity.

Where Jeff and David go. So do I.
Beach Fanatic
#11
this is one of the saddest things I have heard...surely there must be a better solution. I don't think I have ever heard of a congregation "being thrown out of a church"

amazing.
SoWal Insider
#12
And I have never heard of a church not wanting to grow. So sad, defeating the whole purpose.
Beach Comber
#13
I am "this close" to an offer on a certain Seaside 2nd home purchase, but pending clarification on the Chapel, I will sadly have to decline...I will cannot have my family aware of this.
seagrover avatar
Beach Fanatic
#14
And correct me if I am wrong, but the best I remember, the church was almost in foreclosure when this group took over.............and now that the mortgage is paid off.........bye, bye!!

When we went there, I remember certain members of the congregation wanting to help someone in need with their rent but they were at the mercy of the board of Seaside.

I would not want to be near any of these "Seasiders" during a thunderstorm - the ones that made this decision!!!
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#15
Doesn't this nit picking over who qualifies to be on the board of the church remove it's exemption as a religious and tax exempt property? Seems like a "private" church doesn't welcome or benefit the community and therefore would be fully taxable by the local government?
Beach Comber
#16
Doesn't this nit picking over who qualifies to be on the board of the church remove it's exemption as a religious and tax exempt property? Seems like a "private" church doesn't welcome or benefit the community and therefore would be fully taxable by the local government?

I like that thought. What do you suppose the tax basis is for that piece of real estate /:roll:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#17
I like that thought. What do you suppose the tax basis is for that piece of real estate /:roll:

Walton County Record Search

Just a touch over 1.2 million. You'll note that it is listed as an exempt value.
PalmBeach avatar
Beach Lover
#18
Sunday May 3rd, 2009 was the last service at the chapel. Seaside Interfaith Chapel, Inc., the owner of the building, has requested that the current ministry including Pastor Jeff Miller, Worship Leader David Seering, and the ENTIRE CONGREGATION find another location to worship. A 2-day notice was given. The reason is that the chapel was formed to mainly serve the homeowners and guests of Seaside as a chapel not a church. Although homeowners and their guests did attend, the current ministry mainly served the entire area from Destin to Panama City Beach as a church. More than 1,000 people attended on Easter Sunday. If anyone has suggestions for a perminent or temporary location please submit them.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#19
Is there some reason I am not aware of where a church having a congregation precludes it being used as a "chapel" by others? :idontno:

Granted, I don't spend a lot of time hanging around the churchyard, but whenever I have visitors I take them to the church as part of the general tour - and it is always empty.

I really don't understand all of these attempts to keep others from using things - beaches, churches, parking spaces, community common areas etc. Obviously abuses should be punished, but general use shouldn't. I guess I am just used to sharing public spaces and having most places be "public" spaces.

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PalmBeach avatar
Beach Lover
#20
Is there some reason I am not aware of where a church having a congregation precludes it being used as a "chapel" by others? :idontno:

Granted, I don't spend a lot of time hanging around the churchyard, but whenever I have visitors I take them to the church as part of the general tour - and it is always empty.
It doesn't have to make sense. They own the building.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#21
Is there some reason I am not aware of where a church having a congregation precludes it being used as a "chapel" by others? :idontno:

Granted, I don't spend a lot of time hanging around the churchyard, but whenever I have visitors I take them to the church as part of the general tour - and it is always empty.

I really don't understand all of these attempts to keep others from using things - beaches, churches, parking spaces, community common areas etc. Obviously abuses should be punished, but general use shouldn't. I guess I am just used to sharing public spaces and having most places be "public" spaces.

Maintenance costs?

We may be the most hated HOA on the Emerald Coast, but look at that bench, yes that one, not a new coat of paint in seven years! If we had people coming here it might last 5 or 6 years before we have to repaint. That's savings!

/sarcasm off/
NOLA TRANSPLANT avatar
Beach Lover
#22
Scooterbug said

"I really don't understand all of these attempts to keep others from using things - beaches, churches, parking spaces, community common areas etc. Obviously abuses should be punished, but general use shouldn't. I guess I am just used to sharing public spaces and having most places be "public" spaces"




Once again it seems as if Sea Side would rather just be a Gated community. Redirect Hwy 30-A to go behind Sea Side and stop traffic all together. But,!!! This would ALSO include all the revenue from the outside. The retail revenue, the food and beverage revenue, and the RENTAL revenue. Hit em directly in their tightly closed pockets, then when one restaurant after another closes and they have to leave outside of there wonderful paradise to conduct business and are told "Oh no you cant do that because you dont live here" See how they feel then.
You know I dont mean to be an ass over it but come on people. You have to co-exist with outsiders to exist at all!

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Beach Comber
#23
Possible Congregation Options

Sunday May 3rd, 2009 was the last service at the chapel. Seaside Interfaith Chapel, Inc., the owner of the building, has requested that the current ministry including Pastor Jeff Miller, Worship Leader David Seering, and the ENTIRE CONGREGATION find another location to worship. A 2-day notice was given. The reason is that the chapel was formed to mainly serve the homeowners and guests of Seaside as a chapel not a church. Although homeowners and their guests did attend, the current ministry mainly served the entire area from Destin to Panama City Beach as a church. More than 1,000 people attended on Easter Sunday. If anyone has suggestions for a perminent or temporary location please submit them.


The Boat House and or the Bait House at WaterColor. Currently both buildings relative empty and not in use much.
Beach Fanatic
#24
The vacant Sales Office at the now closed Nature Walk..(.soon to be the South Walton Community Center--in our dreams)--the community church could be the first tenant.:Dand everyone would be welcome.
Beach Fanatic
#25
I wonder what part of New Urbanism a private church falls under?:idontno:
tsutcli avatar
Beach Fanatic
#26
Services will be held at Crosspoint Church on 393 at 11. Cross point is just north of Gulfplace on the east side of the street

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