After years of living with a 12 lb. Jack Russell who only liked to eat things she shouldn't. we are now at the mercy of an 85 pound boxer. Rudy has just drug me away from the computer with his pitiful crying because his dish was emply.
He's only supposed to get 4 cups of dog food a day. We feed a him Science Diet so I know he's not malnourished but I let him have just alittle more.
He's two years old and very active but I really don't want him to get fat.
Any suggestions?
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18Moderator
Boxers are not far removed from Bullmastiffs. He should just be finishing a good large breed puppy food. Make sure you feed him something like Iams or Eukanuba large breed food. Yes...Boxers are large breeds.
A dog's weight can go out of control quickly. Don't give in to the whining and stick to the plan. Also, use a real measuring cup. That comes straight from my vet. Being overweight is really harmful for a dog.
Keep him under control. He'll adjust!
A dog's weight can go out of control quickly. Don't give in to the whining and stick to the plan. Also, use a real measuring cup. That comes straight from my vet. Being overweight is really harmful for a dog.
Keep him under control. He'll adjust!
Beach Fanatic
I have 2 Boxers between 5 and 6 years old. They eat Kibbles and Bits twice a day and are happy healthy active Dogs. Baby lived to be almost 12 years old and never ate anything else. We don't feed them people food and treats are never over done, about the only deviation from the norm is that Sugar will eat the cat's food if we don't watch him but then Ernie eats his Kibbles and Bits as pay back. LOL!
I should add that all three of my boys have soft shinny coats and good teeth. Baby still looked good the morning he laid down and went to sleep for the last time. He was about 85 pounds at his prime. Sugar and Trouble are 65 and 80 pounds.
I should add that all three of my boys have soft shinny coats and good teeth. Baby still looked good the morning he laid down and went to sleep for the last time. He was about 85 pounds at his prime. Sugar and Trouble are 65 and 80 pounds.
Beach Fanatic
After years of living with a 12 lb. Jack Russell who only liked to eat things she shouldn't. we are now at the mercy of an 85 pound boxer. Rudy has just drug me away from the computer with his pitiful crying because his dish was emply.
He's only supposed to get 4 cups of dog food a day. We feed a him Science Diet so I know he's not malnourished but I let him have just alittle more.
He's two years old and very active but I really don't want him to get fat.
Any suggestions?
He could be malnourished,,,,,Science Diet is rated VERY LOW in the dog food analysis comparisons. I know your vet sells it, that does NOT mean its good.
you decide, but do your dog a favor and really look at whats in dog food.
Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble
another suggestion> "Life's Abundance " dog kibbles (if you really must feed kibble)
and when you buy it through Alaqua Animal Refuge's link they do get a small percentage. This is a small Florida company who produces it...I don't feed Kibble daily but I have it around for those times when I am out of time.
Alaqua Pet Care
Beach Fanatic
FYI>LOOK AT THE FIRST INGREDIENT IN SCIENCE DIET ADULT=CORN MEAL,
corn is one of the worst things you can feed a dog.
>chicken by-product meal<..you dont EVEN want to know what this is!
Corn meal, chicken by-product meal (including white meat, dark meat, liver and other internal organs), animal fat (preserved with BHA, propyl gallate and citric acid), dried beet pulp, vegetable oil, dried egg product, flaxseed, preserved with BHT and BHA, minerals (potassium chloride, iodized salt, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), vitamins (choline chloride, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, thiamine, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement).
corn is one of the worst things you can feed a dog.
>chicken by-product meal<..you dont EVEN want to know what this is!
Corn meal, chicken by-product meal (including white meat, dark meat, liver and other internal organs), animal fat (preserved with BHA, propyl gallate and citric acid), dried beet pulp, vegetable oil, dried egg product, flaxseed, preserved with BHT and BHA, minerals (potassium chloride, iodized salt, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), vitamins (choline chloride, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, thiamine, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement).
Beach Lover
I agree with T.Cline. When I worked with shelter dogs and rescues, I encouraged "my" adopters to buy the best food they could afford. Unlike people, who eat a variety of foods, dogs get all of their nutrition from their kibble. If I eat onion rings and a milkshake on Monday, I can make up for that nutritional abomination by eating nutritionally the rest of the week. Dogs can't do that, so what you feed them NEEDS to be high quality.
If you an afford a GREAT dog food -- a meat/veggie no grain formula -- buy it. Orijen and Merricks Before Grain come to mind, but there are others.
If you can only afford a GOOD dog food -- a dog food that has no corn, soy or wheat -- buy that.
If you can only afford an OKAY dog food -- a dog food that contains some corn or soy or wheat -- then make sure those ingredients are not listed in the top three ingredient list.
As you budget, remember to look at the "per serving" cost per bag -- not just the cost per bag. A large dog that needs to be fed 8 cups of Ol'Roy, might only need be fed 3 cups of a brand that is more nutritionally dense.
Not everyone can realistically afford to feed the super premium brands, but with four dogs feeding super premium saves me in the long run on vet bills, and I really like the fact that my house doesn't smell like dog, and my yard isn't full of vile-smelling, soft piles of poo. Just small, neutral smelling balls that are easily picked up.
Other feeding tips:
Don't free feed. Feed your dog twice a day (split the daily food allowance into two portions) and feed at fairly regular time.
If your dog is gulping food down, spead it out on a cookie sheet so that it will take him more time to eat it. There are also various "treat ball" products where you put the food into it and your dog is supposed to play/manupulate it to make the food come out. VERY entertaining for a highly-focused puppy or dog.
Your vet can give you guidelines on your pet's ideal weight, but in general, when you look at your dog from the top, you should see a clear narrowing where the rib cage ends and the stomach area begins. You shouldn't see a uniform sausage shape. You should be able to feel your dog's ribs but not see them. It's not easy to keep some dogs at an ideal weight -- my oldest female has some weight issues and it's hard to give her her meagre portion of food and think that's enough. But I keep working on it!!
If you an afford a GREAT dog food -- a meat/veggie no grain formula -- buy it. Orijen and Merricks Before Grain come to mind, but there are others.
If you can only afford a GOOD dog food -- a dog food that has no corn, soy or wheat -- buy that.
If you can only afford an OKAY dog food -- a dog food that contains some corn or soy or wheat -- then make sure those ingredients are not listed in the top three ingredient list.
As you budget, remember to look at the "per serving" cost per bag -- not just the cost per bag. A large dog that needs to be fed 8 cups of Ol'Roy, might only need be fed 3 cups of a brand that is more nutritionally dense.
Not everyone can realistically afford to feed the super premium brands, but with four dogs feeding super premium saves me in the long run on vet bills, and I really like the fact that my house doesn't smell like dog, and my yard isn't full of vile-smelling, soft piles of poo. Just small, neutral smelling balls that are easily picked up.
Other feeding tips:
Don't free feed. Feed your dog twice a day (split the daily food allowance into two portions) and feed at fairly regular time.
If your dog is gulping food down, spead it out on a cookie sheet so that it will take him more time to eat it. There are also various "treat ball" products where you put the food into it and your dog is supposed to play/manupulate it to make the food come out. VERY entertaining for a highly-focused puppy or dog.
Your vet can give you guidelines on your pet's ideal weight, but in general, when you look at your dog from the top, you should see a clear narrowing where the rib cage ends and the stomach area begins. You shouldn't see a uniform sausage shape. You should be able to feel your dog's ribs but not see them. It's not easy to keep some dogs at an ideal weight -- my oldest female has some weight issues and it's hard to give her her meagre portion of food and think that's enough. But I keep working on it!!
Beach LoverAuthor
He could be malnourished,,,,,Science Diet is rated VERY LOW in the dog food analysis comparisons. I know your vet sells it, that does NOT mean its good.I did not know that about Science Diet. We thought we were doing good for Rudy. We live in a very small town but I will go to Pet Smart next week. I velieve they will have Eukanuba.
you decide, but do your dog a favor and really look at whats in dog food.
Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble
another suggestion> "Life's Abundance " dog kibbles (if you really must feed kibble)
and when you buy it through Alaqua Animal Refuge's link they do get a small percentage. This is a small Florida company who produces it...I don't feed Kibble daily but I have it around for those times when I am out of time.
Alaqua Pet Care
Beach LoverAuthor
And thanks to all who replied to my post. We are really nuts about this dog and want him to live a good healthy life as long as possible. I wish I could post a picture. Everyone who sees him says "oh what a face". His black mask looks like a sad clown and the rest of his coat is bright fawn with flashy white marking.
Beach Fanatic
please do a google search about pet food recalls b/c I think Eukanuba has been on the list several times.
And thanks to all who replied to my post. We are really nuts about this dog and want him to live a good healthy life as long as possible. I wish I could post a picture. Everyone who sees him says "oh what a face". His black mask looks like a sad clown and the rest of his coat is bright fawn with flashy white marking.
SoWal Expert
Just because he wants something in his dish doesn't mean he needs food or is hungry, so ask your vet.
Both the Scooterhounds have eating disorders - Jeffy will only eat when someone is in the room w/ him, Greta will bug you incessantly for her food or post-meal biscuit and then leave it uneaten for hours - we think because she didn't always get enough/fed regularly (rescue dog).
Both the Scooterhounds have eating disorders - Jeffy will only eat when someone is in the room w/ him, Greta will bug you incessantly for her food or post-meal biscuit and then leave it uneaten for hours - we think because she didn't always get enough/fed regularly (rescue dog).
Beach LoverAuthor
Just because he wants something in his dish doesn't mean he needs food or is hungry, so ask your vet.
Both the Scooterhounds have eating disorders - Jeffy will only eat when someone is in the room w/ him, Greta will bug you incessantly for her food or post-meal biscuit and then leave it uneaten for hours - we think because she didn't always get enough/fed regularly (rescue dog).
Yes. I think sometimes he's just bored when we're not paying attention to him. I have the treat thingie that he has to work to get the treat out. And we hide his toys and tell him to find them. It cracks me up.
I guess I'd better do some reseach because the vet here recommended the Science Diet sensitive stomach since he was getting gas really bad. Since he is mostly in the house with us we can't stand it. And he will look at his rear end like"what's that all about"
Beach Fanatic
dog food recipe-no recalls from my kitchen!!
I currently feed my dogs a mostly raw meat & bones diet. I am trying to feed them less meat and hopefully the meat part with be cut down significantly to where I can afford to buy organic for them and it will be only a nutritional side to the main diet.
here is is...
First let me also say that my dogs get home made kefir and a powdered pro-biotic a couple times or more a week
Supplement mix-
2 c. of granulated or powdered nutritional yeast
1 c. lecithin
1 c. garlic flakes
1/4 c. kelp
make ahead and keep in a jar,,,add 1 tbls to main recipe below.
and I also add to their meal...
fish oil tab.-the whole tab)-no mercury -filtered)
(vitmin e -low dose twice week,)
flax oil
olive oil
cold pressed coconut oil
sub lingual B-liquid
500mg of vit c powder (1 ts.)
---------
MAIN RECIPE
I make a big pot of this and keep it in frig once a week or separate into freezer portions.
1 bag of lentils
cooked Quinoa ( 2cps)
1 lrg sweet potato
1/2beet
peas- or-broccoli ( I save the stalks from heads) 2-3 stalks
2large carrots
celery
sprig of rosemary
cook all together in one pot, when vegis are soft add quinoa and mash with potato masher
ADD MEAT BEFORE SERVING OR MAKE INTO PATTIES AND FREEZE.
these ingredients are the bulk of the meal and I add a couple heaping tbls of uncooked ground turkey or beef to this. You can add a bit more rice or cooked oats plus a couple eggs and make patties then freeze- take out to thaw night before or nuke it on defrost in morning.
my fur kids also have a slice or two of whatever fruit I eat daily
apples-banana-blue berries-orange-pears mostly.
I also feed raw chicken (leg-thigh piece)
and beef long ribs with meat...the kind you use to bbq.
I also feed organ meats and salmon ( frozen or canned )a couple three times a month.
the garlic in the supplement mix really helps repel fleas and ticks!
I currently feed my dogs a mostly raw meat & bones diet. I am trying to feed them less meat and hopefully the meat part with be cut down significantly to where I can afford to buy organic for them and it will be only a nutritional side to the main diet.
here is is...
First let me also say that my dogs get home made kefir and a powdered pro-biotic a couple times or more a week
Supplement mix-
2 c. of granulated or powdered nutritional yeast
1 c. lecithin
1 c. garlic flakes
1/4 c. kelp
make ahead and keep in a jar,,,add 1 tbls to main recipe below.
and I also add to their meal...
fish oil tab.-the whole tab)-no mercury -filtered)
(vitmin e -low dose twice week,)
flax oil
olive oil
cold pressed coconut oil
sub lingual B-liquid
500mg of vit c powder (1 ts.)
---------
MAIN RECIPE
I make a big pot of this and keep it in frig once a week or separate into freezer portions.
1 bag of lentils
cooked Quinoa ( 2cps)
1 lrg sweet potato
1/2beet
peas- or-broccoli ( I save the stalks from heads) 2-3 stalks
2large carrots
celery
sprig of rosemary
cook all together in one pot, when vegis are soft add quinoa and mash with potato masher
ADD MEAT BEFORE SERVING OR MAKE INTO PATTIES AND FREEZE.
these ingredients are the bulk of the meal and I add a couple heaping tbls of uncooked ground turkey or beef to this. You can add a bit more rice or cooked oats plus a couple eggs and make patties then freeze- take out to thaw night before or nuke it on defrost in morning.
my fur kids also have a slice or two of whatever fruit I eat daily
apples-banana-blue berries-orange-pears mostly.
I also feed raw chicken (leg-thigh piece)
and beef long ribs with meat...the kind you use to bbq.
I also feed organ meats and salmon ( frozen or canned )a couple three times a month.
the garlic in the supplement mix really helps repel fleas and ticks!
Edited
Beach Fanatic
Yes. I think sometimes he's just bored when we're not paying attention to him. I have the treat thingie that he has to work to get the treat out. And we hide his toys and tell him to find them. It cracks me up.
I guess I'd better do some reseach because the vet here recommended the Science Diet sensitive stomach since he was getting gas really bad. Since he is mostly in the house with us we can't stand it. And he will look at his rear end like"what's that all about"
yep...the SD kibble is giving him gas...
Moderator
I guess I'd better do some reseach because the vet here recommended the Science Diet sensitive stomach since he was getting gas really bad. Since he is mostly in the house with us we can't stand it. And he will look at his rear end like"what's that all about"
LOL!! Some dogs are just gassy! When Max barks hard, sometimes, he barks out of both ends at the same time

For the record, both Iams and Eukanuba are Proctor and Gamble products. They are largely the same with the main difference being that Eukanuba is sold mainly through Vets and pet specialty stores.
Both Iams and Eukanuba have been subject to recalls as almost every other company out there. The products in question were food / gravy pouches which you should never really feed your dog, anyway, so it's really a non-issue.
Bottom line is to look for the food with the least amount of filler (soy and corn) and remember that dogs like variety, too. Mix their food up every so often.
SoWal Expert
Yes. I think sometimes he's just bored when we're not paying attention to him. I have the treat thingie that he has to work to get the treat out. And we hide his toys and tell him to find them. It cracks me up.
I guess I'd better do some reseach because the vet here recommended the Science Diet sensitive stomach since he was getting gas really bad. Since he is mostly in the house with us we can't stand it. And he will look at his rear end like"what's that all about"
A rawhide or dinosaur bone might help too - that's what we call those giant leg bones. Both dogs will gnaw on it for hours (at the same time), but it can drive you nuts clunking on a wood floor or goober up the rugs.
Beach Lover
Almost all vets recommend Science Diet; that's because they get some major financial incentives for selling it. It's just not something I'd ever feed my dog. There are far better foods for the price, even if you're just looking at readily available commercial brands. I'm always amazed that vets (and OUR doctors) don't pay more attention to diet in diagnosing health problems -- other than, with the vets, using it as an opportunity to push Science Diet.
Some dogs can handle corn just fine, even if it's not the best for them nutritionally, but corn allergy or sensitivity that causes some skin problems and gas is pretty common. I don't buy dog foods that contain corn. Even from a financial standpoint, you're paying for a filler with little nutritional value, so it doesn't make much sense.
If you're looking for a good informational resource try the Whole Dog Journal. Lots of well-researched articles from people who are serious dog lovers. On the web I like dogwise.com. They have a forum that is staffed by experts and experienced dog owners; they answer all kinds of questions in a very helpful, measured manner. No whack-a-doodles like you get on some forums.
I forgot to add in my previous posts, if my dogs seem hungry between meals, I give them a hard bone to chew on (I don't leave these down all the time -- if you do they aren't "special" anymore) or I give them a whole, raw carrot to keep them busy. They also like apple slices and sweet potato slices.
Some dogs can handle corn just fine, even if it's not the best for them nutritionally, but corn allergy or sensitivity that causes some skin problems and gas is pretty common. I don't buy dog foods that contain corn. Even from a financial standpoint, you're paying for a filler with little nutritional value, so it doesn't make much sense.
If you're looking for a good informational resource try the Whole Dog Journal. Lots of well-researched articles from people who are serious dog lovers. On the web I like dogwise.com. They have a forum that is staffed by experts and experienced dog owners; they answer all kinds of questions in a very helpful, measured manner. No whack-a-doodles like you get on some forums.
I forgot to add in my previous posts, if my dogs seem hungry between meals, I give them a hard bone to chew on (I don't leave these down all the time -- if you do they aren't "special" anymore) or I give them a whole, raw carrot to keep them busy. They also like apple slices and sweet potato slices.
Moderator
A rawhide or dinosaur bone might help too - that's what we call those giant leg bones. Both dogs will gnaw on it for hours (at the same time), but it can drive you nuts clunking on a wood floor or goober up the rugs.
Rawhide is terrible for dogs as are cow toes. Nylabones or baked cow bones...basically, things that won't break into chokeable chunks like Greenies...are the best.
SoWal Expert
It's not the toe - looks like they are chewing on a dinosaur leg!
Beach Fanatic
LOL!! Some dogs are just gassy! When Max barks hard, sometimes, he barks out of both ends at the same time.
:funn: I love Max! Our baby, Layla (who also loves Max), can clear a room! We tell her we should've named her "Stinky"...

It's not the toe - looks like they are chewing on a dinosaur leg!
When we first got our big chow/shepard mix, Buckshot, Swafia purchased one of these dinosaur bones for him. He was terribly afraid of it, and sat and stared at it for a good hour.
Rufus, our small yorkie-pug mix (who was a little smaller than the bone itself) got tired of being polite, and walked right over, bit one end of the bone and pulled it across the living room where he proceeded to try to eat the whole thing.
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