Bicyclists on 30A

Congratulations on opening one of the biggest can o' worms on 30A. Brace yourself as this thread goes onto 5+ pages.

My understanding of the laws are that bicyclists must follow rules of the road just as a car would and if you are in a properly marked cross walk they have to stop for you.

That's my understanding too.

Should we rename the bike path foot path?

Doncha just love it when someone's very first and only SoWal post is trolling. On a topic that has already been beat to death in at least 3 or 4 previous posts. Give it up. This horse has been dead so long, it doesn't even smell any more.

Congratulations on opening one of the biggest can o' worms on 30A. Brace yourself as this thread goes onto 5+ pages.

My understanding of the laws are that bicyclists must follow rules of the road just as a car would and if you are in a properly marked cross walk they have to stop for you.

thanks for the heads up. no way for me to know that this is a big deal - just commenting on almost being run down. not "trolling", and btw - doesn't EVERYONE have a first post at sometime or other? (or is this forum only for those in the hundreds or thousands range?) i appreciate your warning swgb - i won't be checking back in anytime soon!

Avenger, its OK for you to express your point of view, don't worry what SOME may have said as to the topic, it is opinions that make this place interesting, even when it don't stink anymore. Those that are tired of discussing an issue don't have to reply IMO.

Avenger, its OK for you to express your point of view, don't worry what SOME may have said as to the topic, it is opinions that make this place interesting, even when it don't stink anymore. Those that are tired of discussing an issue don't have to reply IMO.

Yes Avenger, it's ok to post. If it is too recent to another post it just gets merged. They beat the poop out of me some days. I just sit back and watch. It's fun. T try and be nice, but some days it is just too hard.

Have fun.

thanks for the heads up. no way for me to know that this is a big deal - just commenting on almost being run down. not "trolling", and btw - doesn't EVERYONE have a first post at sometime or other? (or is this forum only for those in the hundreds or thousands range?) i appreciate your warning swgb - i won't be checking back in anytime soon!

SWGB is just hazing you a little bit, rookie, er crabbie. Post early and often. What do you think of those people who dress like Lance Armstrong and think they own the road?

thanks for the heads up. no way for me to know that this is a big deal - just commenting on almost being run down. not "trolling", and btw - doesn't EVERYONE have a first post at sometime or other? (or is this forum only for those in the hundreds or thousands range?) i appreciate your warning swgb - i won't be checking back in anytime soon!

There is nothing wrong with your idea but we need a little more from you about your thoughts on the subject other than an exclamation point.

As for the "bike path", The "Timpoochee Trail" is a multi-use path, not a bike-only path.

SWGB is just hazing you a little bit, rookie, er crabbie. Post early and often. What do you think of those people who dress like Lance Armstrong and think they own the road?

As children the bullies gave them wedgies every single day to the point that they started to like it. Hence the OMB constricting attire that they wear to this day.

Avenger posted more about the topic but obviously had second thoughts about joining in, after he was called a "troll".

Avenger, you will have to understand that some on this forum are new to this type of exchange and get very touchy about certain subjects. They are also quick to label someone a troll if they post a new thread about a "hot" topic. They would do good to establish a wait and see attitude. Trolls will always out themselves eventually so there is no need to label them after one post.

Not all are trolls, some are newbies that just happen to pick a topic some do not wish to rediscuss again as their first.

To survive you just have to jump in and go with the flow. Never leave because of one or two comments.

And actually SWGB was doing you a favor by warning you of what would probably follow.

As to your topic, these type of bikers live everywhere. I have seen them on 30-A and I have seen them on the streets here in Memphis. They think they own the road, and totally disregard the laws they want everyone else to obey. I figure eventually Karma gets them.

Welcome to the forum and have a very Merry Christmas.

There is nothing wrong with your idea but we need a little more from you about your thoughts on the subject other than an exclamation point.

As for the "bike path", The "Timpoochee Trail" is a multi-use path, not a bike-only path.

I believe he edited out his original remarks.

Cyclists have every much as right to the road as any other vehicle or pedestrian. I always allow them the right of way when driving. Those that are in that big a hurry to get somewhere should use a throughfare other than 30A.
That said, cyclists have to obey the rules of the road just as everyone else does. That means stopping at stop signs and pedestrian crosswalks when occuppied or about to be. A little common sense goes a long way when travelling from one place to another regardless of the mode of transportation.
Merry Chrismas and a Happy New Year.

The only problem I see is bikers who are very young, or older bikers who are a little clumsy or rubbernecking, so I drive with extreme caution most of the year.

Although locals need to get from place to place, the reality is that Scenic 30A is one long "tourist free-for-all" and safety should come first for regulars. It's understandable to be frustrated, but if you can't slow down and get past your own attitude you need to find an alternate route.

SWGB is just hazing you a little bit, rookie, er crabbie. Post early and often. What do you think of those people who dress like Lance Armstrong and think they own the road?

no no - i was TRULY thanking swgb for the heads up. i deleted my original post, but had to have at least one character left in - hence the "!"

er - i don't think anyone wants to know what i think about the "lance armstrong" types, or anyone else. thanks for the post - and to everyone else who posted something nice. merry Christmas!

There is nothing wrong with your idea but we need a little more from you about your thoughts on the subject other than an exclamation point.

As for the "bike path", The "Timpoochee Trail" is a multi-use path, not a bike-only path.

i deleted the entire quote after the post from swgb.

Avenger posted more about the topic but obviously had second thoughts about joining in, after he was called a "troll".

Avenger, you will have to understand that some on this forum are new to this type of exchange and get very touchy about certain subjects. They are also quick to label someone a troll if they post a new thread about a "hot" topic. They would do good to establish a wait and see attitude. Trolls will always out themselves eventually so there is no need to label them after one post.

Not all are trolls, some are newbies that just happen to pick a topic some do not wish to rediscuss again as their first.

To survive you just have to jump in and go with the flow. Never leave because of one or two comments.

And actually SWGB was doing you a favor by warning you of what would probably follow.

As to your topic, these type of bikers live everywhere. I have seen them on 30-A and I have seen them on the streets here in Memphis. They think they own the road, and totally disregard the laws they want everyone else to obey. I figure eventually Karma gets them.

Welcome to the forum and have a very Merry Christmas.

thanks - i don't know how to do a "thanks" at the bottom of your post, so i am doing it this way.

Hey; I love before both Christmas and hurricanes, when I can ride my bike on the center line without traffic ! HA!

I wonder if it was me that was behind you yesterday? The Hummer that got caught behind a cyclist at the loonnngggg Blue Mountain curve. No way to pass, then I tried to once, but decided not to. So I backed off and just coasted behind until I got to Goatfeathers and could pass. Whomever it was cycling was going about 25 mph, very impressive, except getting up the hill, that will take some work. I was aggravated, whether it is legal or not to cycle on a two lane road, however, I was patient and understanding. I would like to note, that if a cyclist is worried about getting mowed over, WTH are you doing cycling on 30A???

FWIW, Avenger had deleted his one and only original post by the time I first saw the thread. Without any further info, that single exclamation point sure looked like a troll at the time. Obviously not, it would now appear to be. Apologies, Avenger.

In every one of the previous threads, I have agreed with cyclists on their right to ride 30A. Experienced and courteous cyclists recognize the risks of riding in traffic and the need to abide by the laws. Motorists need to be courteous and recognize that the law permits cyclists to ride on the road. And we all need to take a chill pill. You will never get from point A to point B in a hurry on 30A. It's the beach, fer cryin out loud. I still feel that way.

For those who think all bikes should be on the path, I'll say again - your statement shows that you have obviously never ridden a road bike with high pressure tires at 20 MPH on the bumpy and sandy bike path, while avoiding pedestrians, runners, and beach cruiser bikes. Too risky for you, too risky for them.

I guess that covers all the previous threads, except the obsessing over bike shorts and jerseys. I ain't feeling tongue-in-cheek enough for that one today. Besides, SWBG has got the cred on that topic.

Wherever you choose to ride your bike (path or road) there is no need to be discourteous or to think you are above SHARING and obeying the rules.

Wherever you choose to ride your bike (path or road) there is no need to be discourteous or to think you are above SHARING and obeying the rules.

That goes for vehicles too.

Well, I've seen (in many cities) irresponsible bicyclists hogging the road and not obeying traffic laws, motor vehicle operators practically running over the bicyclists and irresponsible pedestrians.

I almost ran over a 'jay walker' two nights ago scooting across Peachtree Road (six lanes of traffic) on his hoveround! FTLOG!

So, for those of us who pay attention, let's just continue to pay attention. There are some roads I would never ride my bike on or try to cross without a pedestrian cross walk. Not so much for others, evidently.

Hello Avenger! I feel for you, as one of my earliest posts here was on the rant thread and was very similar to yours I would imagine. Fortunately not too many read it and I survived only a minor tongue lashing! ;-) Welcome to the forums and enjoy your time in paradise!

I wonder if it was me that was behind you yesterday? The Hummer that got caught behind a cyclist at the loonnngggg Blue Mountain curve. No way to pass, then I tried to once, but decided not to. So I backed off and just coasted behind until I got to Goatfeathers and could pass. Whomever it was cycling was going about 25 mph, very impressive, except getting up the hill, that will take some work. I was aggravated, whether it is legal or not to cycle on a two lane road, however, I was patient and understanding. I would like to note, that if a cyclist is worried about getting mowed over, WTH are you doing cycling on 30A???

A few weeks ago we were going toward BBM/Goatfeathers from Seacrest Beach and the same thing happened. However, a little different. Eight or so cyclists in the middle of the lane followed by a truck that was from a cyclists outfit on 30A. I thought most of the way (a few miles) that the truck was protecting the riders from cars (especially me). I had attempted to pass a few times all and to no avail. I then sat back and the truck passed the cyclists. They still refused to move to one lane.

I am sorry but one day my rearview mirrow is going to clip one.

And mine were not even going 25MPH in the 45MPH.

And for the Armstrong look alikes, well, all I can say is they are jealous of my SWGB.