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Public Beach Trespassing?

PearlSB4U avatar
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I had naively assumed that all the beach in front of the principal dune was public, but in Blue Mtn today I saw signs that on the beach that said "Blue Lupine Owners and Guests Only."

Can someone please explain the laws re which parts of the beach are public vs. private?

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Dawn avatar
Beach Fanatic
#2
Wow - Surprised you have not seen all the discussion on this forum about it! Search "public private beach"
lawsuits, trespassing, arrests, oh my!
Zebraspots avatar
Beach Fanatic
#3
I had naively assumed that all the beach in front of the principal dune was public, but in Blue Mtn today I saw signs that on the beach that said "Blue Lupine Owners and Guests Only."

Can someone please explain the laws re which parts of the beach are public vs. private?
Nope, it is clear as mud! The lawyers are still fighting it out, but I believe law enforcement had decided they are done with being beach bouncers so don't worry about it too much.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4
It is a travesty! The people who own at The Inn At Blue Mt. Beach and the Reserve should be totally ashamed of the ugly, unnecessary signage they have constructed on such beautiful, pristine beaches. It is the epitome of greed and lack of caring for others, IMO.
rdelong43065 avatar
Beach Fanatic
#5
It is a travesty! The people who own at The Inn At Blue Mt. Beach and the Reserve should be totally ashamed of the ugly, unnecessary signage they have constructed on such beautiful, pristine beaches. It is the epitome of greed and lack of caring for others, IMO.

But Andy, these are the same people who had ripped up the beach for miles with their large dump trucks. What's a little signage to them now?
PearlSB4U avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#6
Wow - Surprised you have not seen all the discussion on this forum about it! Search "public private beach"
lawsuits, trespassing, arrests, oh my!

Thanks. I found a thread from July 2011 that shed some light on the issue.
Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#7
It is a travesty! The people who own at The Inn At Blue Mt. Beach and the Reserve should be totally ashamed of the ugly, unnecessary signage they have constructed on such beautiful, pristine beaches. It is the epitome of greed and lack of caring for others, IMO.


They are not the only ones that have put up signs, there are others.
Winelover avatar
Beach Lover
#8
Private Beach?? What is that!! What is the human race down grading to...This is All God's beach....remove the signs!!
Ohio Girl avatar
Beach Lover
#9
Andante only had 4 signs posted last week :(
tailwagger avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10
Beaches should be managed by dogs. Humans should be on leashes and require permits, and restricted hours.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#11
They are not the only ones that have put up signs, there are others.
You are absolutely correct. I have asked the BCC on several occasions at their meeting to have ALL OF THEM removed. If the BCC can control and say what signage is allowed on the scenic higways, they certainly can do so on the beach as well. My request has been met with deafening silence.
tailwagger avatar
Beach Fanatic
#12
I think the signs may have something to do with lawyers (duh).

What I mean is, it's something about marking your territory to set you up so that in the future you can tell a judge that you marked your beach and some legal mumbo jumbo about public use and private use and yada yada yada...

It would be more polite if they just peed on our leg like I like to do to lawyers when I linger around the courthouse steps.
tailwagger avatar
Beach Fanatic
#13
You are absolutely correct. I have asked the BCC on several occasions at their meeting to have ALL OF THEM removed. If the BCC can control and say what signage is allowed on the scenic higways, they certainly can do so on the beach as well. My request has been met with deafening silence.

I wonder what would happen if a beach patrol on a 4-wheeler ran into one and it decapitated him or her? Just the thought of it might send a commissioner into a frenzy (hint hint) oh my the county could be sued and so could the PRIVATE property owner!
Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#14
Andante only had 4 signs posted last week :(

They also have a security person, we met him two weeks ago. :nono1:

Also they list private beach in their real estate listings.


Experience Andante. We invite to enjoy the best of beach life on 30A. Price is Reduced. Andante Penthouse 8 is a 4,300 sq. ft. luxury 4 bedroom/4.5 bath residence with 570 sq. ft. of gulf front balconies and is currently the only residence offered for sale in this condominium community consisting of only 10 residences. Andante sits approximately 40 feet above sea level overlooking 240 feet of private beach with a gated gulf front pool. ​
PearlSB4U avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#15
When Carl Sandburg was asked what the ugliest word in the English language was, he replied "Exclusive."
CampCreekLou avatar
Beach Lover
#161
Obnoxious.

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Zebraspots avatar
Beach Fanatic
#17
Who is Floyd Lipscomb?
Rachael Ashman McKee avatar
Beach Lover
#18
If you don't mind, where were these taken?
CampCreekLou avatar
Beach Lover
#19
On the Private Beach of Seacrest! :D

What cracks me up is all the beautiful, empty beach in the background.
Rachael Ashman McKee avatar
Beach Lover
#20
Thank you CCL! And I learned how to use my zoom, so thank you twice.
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#211
Some owners do own the beach up to the mean high water line. Just look at the attachment. Lots 1 and 2 extend to the mean high water line. Lots 3-6 don't; there is a designated common beach area in from of them. There are many other plats like this.

I would think that the owners of lots 1 and 2 would allow people to sit on their beach unless those people sat up a tacky tent city there. But who knows? Only one of lots 3-6 has been built on, and neither lot 1 nor 2 has been built upon.

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Landlocked avatar
Beach Fanatic
#22
Obnoxious.

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I would feel like a complete jerk sitting between those signs. :lol:
Arkiehawg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#23
Obnoxious.

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As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

-Woody Guthrie-

Happy Birthday Woody! This land WAS made for you and Me....
Everytime avatar
Beach Fanatic
#24
Some owners do own the beach up to the mean high water line. Just look at the attachment. Lots 1 and 2 extend to the mean high water line. Lots 3-6 don't; there is a designated common beach area in from of them. There are many other plats like this.

I would think that the owners of lots 1 and 2 would allow people to sit on their beach unless those people sat up a tacky tent city there. But who knows? Only one of lots 3-6 has been built on, and neither lot 1 nor 2 has been built upon.

You know, I've been going to Eastern Lake Rd several times a year since 1988, and never knew that it was a continuation of CR 395! I guess it piggybacks 30-A from the "main" intersection in Seagrove.
Beach Comber
#25
there are signs like that all up and down the beaches where people are tryign to kee pthere beach "private". the problem is that the beach is technically public property. Yes they have rights to the edge of there property line, but that line does not extend all the way to the water. Most of the time, these places are fenced in. As long as you stay out of the fenced in area, your good. My family ignores the signs and camps out in front of multi-million dollar homes all the time. If the owners do call the cops, odds are even if the police did respond, there is nothing they can do about it (usually. if your drunk or extremely rude, then they might take ya away for that, but if your just a family out enjoying the weather, dont worry). The beach and water is considered public property by eminent domain, just like all rivers and sand banks along those rivers, even when the river goes strait through private property, is still public land.
Rachael Ashman McKee avatar
Beach Lover
#26
Let's go to the beach with the intention of being good stewards, then take it from there if need be.

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