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What's up with the TDC Board?

Jim Tucker avatar
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TDC Board seat recommendations were presented to the Walton County Commissioners. TDC Board Attorney Clay Adkinson explained the staff suggested process for making sure the filling of seats meet the statutory requirements. These include qualifications for the seats.


Commissioner Meadows said she only received the information at noon the day before and wants more time to review the applicants. She also asked about qualifications. TDC Director Dawn Moliterno said they submitted the document on the 20th.


Meadows asked how they look at appointing people who have a problem with the TDC, are suing the county or some other difference. Adkinson said they do have a code of conduct, but there is no policy limiting people because they might be suing the county. Meadows asked about one specific individual and if he was removed after Molenterno and Adkinson talked and said Mr. Ragsdail “was testy.” Moliterno said the process is open to the public and they did include Ragsdail in the applicants.


Meadows said people need to know what is going on at the TDC. Meadows asked Moliterno how often she visits the bed tax collectors. Moleterno said she does this often. Meadows asked if she met with all the people recommended. Moleterno said no. Meadows then told of a bed tax collector complaining the TDC told them the TDC is not a reservation agency. Molenterno said they do not tell people that. She said she does not know what direction Meadows question was going.


Commissioner Comander said she received her meeting packet last week. Staff said they tried to deliver Meadow’s packet on Wednesday. With a TDC Board meeting on the 10th, commissioners agreed to extend the current members to give Meadows’ more time to review the applicants.


Meadows and resident Bob Hudson asked if all the applicants meet the criteria, including being a registered voter. Moliterno said yes. Hudson said he checked and some are not registered voters in Walton or even in Florida. Moliterno said this is indeed a requirement and she will have staff review and make sure nothing was missed. This will be brought back at the next meeting.
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Who is suing the county and applied?

Bob?

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Andy A avatar
Andy ABeach Fanatic
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It is called the Tourist Development Council. It would seem to me that is a far more reaching function than those who are rentors. My question is, why do you have to be a rentor to qualify for the board? My condominum complex rents and those rental affect my way of life and the monies I pay for taxes are used indirectly to support our tourism effort. If this is the law it needs to be changed so that any Walton County permanent resident and registed voter is eligible to sit on the board. Tourism is affected by all, not just those who rent their property to tourists.
Zebraspots avatar
ZebraspotsBeach Fanatic
#3
Both the director and the attorney reviewed the applications and couldn't get basic requirements right?

How much are we paying these people for this kind of incompetence?

Glad I voted for Meadows.
Teresa avatar
TeresaSoWal Guide
#4
Both the director and the attorney reviewed the applications and couldn't get basic requirements right?

How much are we paying these people for this kind of incompetence?

Glad I voted for Meadows.

I just don't want to see a cat fight in public. Lord. where is the professionalism?
Bob Hudson avatar
Bob HudsonBeach Fanatic
#5
This cat fight is going to be a cage match.

Elections have consequences.

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seagrovegirl avatar
seagrovegirlBeach Fanatic
#6
I don't see a cat fight, I see a soon to be commissioner asking questions and it is refreshing. Go Cindy!!
Teresa avatar
TeresaSoWal Guide
#7
I don't see a cat fight, I see a soon to be commissioner asking questions and it is refreshing. Go Cindy!!
I hope and pray you're right!

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Bob Wells avatar
Bob WellsBeach Fanatic
#8
I don't see a cat fight, I see a soon to be commissioner asking questions and it is refreshing. Go Cindy!!

She is already a Commissioner.
Jdarg avatar
JdargSoWal Expert
#9
And doing the job we elected her to do- ask questions, know what is going on, and represent the citizens of Walton County, especially our interests at the beach.
seagrovegirl avatar
seagrovegirlBeach Fanatic
#10
I didn't realize she had been sworn in already?
Zebraspots avatar
ZebraspotsBeach Fanatic
#11
I am offended that you call it a catfight.

Dawn has been wasting money on vendettas and getting rid of anyone who disagrees with her, but an elected official who points out major incompetence is unprofessional and catty?
Bob Hudson avatar
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‘Communication lines will be open’: Newly elected commissioner takes on TDC in first meeting

By Molly Mosher | The Sun
Published: Thursday, November 29, 2012 at 16:19 PM.

New District 5 Commissioner Cindy Meadows was anything but quiet at Tuesday’s BCC meeting.

She seemed to focus in on operations at the Walton County TDC, especially concerning applications for TDC advisory council members.

“I think what she was looking for was more time for a thorough review of the applications,” said TDC Executive Director Dawn Moliterno. “I can appreciate that.”

There are four open seat appointments, and the BCC has the final say on which of the 11 applicants would fill each.

The commission, which includes three new elected officials who were sworn in Nov. 20, were scheduled to vote on TDC applicants at the Nov. 27 meeting. But that didn’t happen. Moliterno said the applications were submitted to the county Nov. 20 to give each commissioner plenty of time to look each application over.

Apparently, Meadows did not receive hers until Nov. 26, and in the time she had to review it, some of the applicants raised a red flag, as far as their meeting all of the qualifying criteria.

“Somebody in your shop needs to pay much better attention to detail,” Meadows told Moliterno.

One main qualifier is that the applicant must be a registered voter in Walton County, a criterion Meadows said the TDC overlooked.

“They’re all qualified,” Moliterno later told The Sun. But, “there is an individual who is currently not a ... Walton County registered voter. The commission will be asked to just not include that applicant in their voting.”

The applicants must also be “in good standing,” and Moliterno had written a note on one application for attorney Clay Adkinson to define the term. Adkinson said the phrase may point to a business owner who might be delinquent in bed tax remittances.

He said it has nothing to do with an individual being in litigation with the county.

While she had the ear of Moliterno, Meadows moved the conversation to general TDC operations, especially concerning an incident when a bed tax collector approached the TDC for reservations help.

“The bed tax collector was told to never contact the TDC again for reservations,” said Meadows.

Moliterno immediately wrote that off as misinformation, replying, “We've never said that. I have no idea who stated that.”

District 4 Commissioner Sara Comander piped in, “May I suggest you two get together?”

The two women agreed to speak about these issues at a later date.

“Communications lines will be open, I assure you of that,” said Meadows.

“I welcome that,” replied Moliterno.

Meadows, who served on the commission previously from 2004 to 2008, apologized for so openly airing her problems with the TDC, but added, “I feel that people should know what is going on at the TDC.”

The commission granted itself an extension for the TDC Advisory Council applications, and will vote on the four seat appointments Dec. 11.

Below is a cut and paste from the Application that was originally posted on the TDC website.

I have received the TDC Advisory Council Guidelines and hereby agree to adhere to all the terms as stated above. As a member of the TDC Advisory Council I will remain in good standing (Clay should we define this? Like paying bed tax, someone that is suing the county, etc) with the BCC and understand that I must meet all of the requirements necessary to carry out this responsibility.

Signed By: ______________________________________________________
Print Name: _____________________________________________________
Company: _______________________________ Title: __________________
Date: __________________________________________________________

This appears to be a direct contradiction of statements made by the TDC Attorney and TDC Director.

This is the entire "original posting" of the application (Click below)
Teresa avatar
TeresaSoWal Guide
#13
I am offended that you call it a catfight.

Dawn has been wasting money on vendettas and getting rid of anyone who disagrees with her, but an elected official who points out major incompetence is unprofessional and catty?

No need to be offended as it wasn't directed at you... :cool:
My comment was only half serious (based on what I read, it made me wonder what the heck).

secondly, please don't put words in my mouth. My comment wasn't directed at one or the other but the whole process. The way our officials interact with one another in public meetings sometimes makes me squirm. Both women are hard workers, like them or not. I respect both and I appreciate their hard work on the behalf of our community.

I have high hopes that our County will move forward in a positive way. Progress is hard work. If anyone can help lead us in the right direction I believe it is Cindy.

The bottom line is that Walton County is a work in progress. We have some good leaders, committed people at the TDC and BCC, and very active citizens. I believe its all going to be fine. This county is interesting to say the very least. But South Walton is awesome.

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BeachSiO2 avatar
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic
#14
From the TDC Connection..

TDC Advisory Council Meeting Moved
Don't forget the Walton County TDC Advisory Council meeting has been moved to December 10, 2012. The meeting will be held at 9:00 a.m. at 30A Suites, Celebration Hall, West Highway 30A in Santa Rosa Beach. The agenda of important items will be posted on our partner site by Monday December 3, 2012. Topics always include ongoing marketing, agency updates, various initiatives and upcoming business priorities which impact the destination. If you have any questions please contact Stacey by email or at (850) 267-1216.
Andy A avatar
Andy ABeach Fanatic
#16
I, and many others, have also ask that question. I have come to the conclusion after attending meetings such as the one on Dec. 3, that there is a need but the direction and scope of the TDC is in need of re-evaluation. From all that is observed recently this appears to be underway.
mputnalBeach Fanatic
#17
Andy A I am wondering what functions of the TDC are needed? I am not spinning this question in either direction but simply would like to know how this high budget government agency helps all citizens and businesses in Walton
County. You seem to be a fiscal conservative which means in part that you expect getting an equal value back for money that is spent (balanced budgets). I believe that the TDC's scope has good intentions but the problem with big budgets is that money sometimes get spent just because it's there. We know that our South Walton community has issues with clean water, traffic, parking, helping our small businesses (backbone of our community and nation), growth and many other infrastruture problems associated with growth including basic maintenance. The infrastructure necessary for growth is probably the new direction of the TDC that most of us would agree on but these problems are neither glamorous or exciting to discuss or advertise. At some point you would think our community leaders would ask the question how much growth can South Walton support. I am not complaining about anything but just would like to know the answer to that question. I have noticed a "surprising" number of home/rentals new constructions. Do we have infrastructure to support that? I own a business that will benefit from this new construction but I love this "community" more than I do the money I make from it. Not every community has a TDC and we are fortunate to have this well funded agency looking out for you and me or are they?
Andy A avatar
Andy ABeach Fanatic
#18
Andy A I am wondering what functions of the TDC are needed? I am not spinning this question in either direction but simply would like to know how this high budget government agency helps all citizens and businesses in Walton
County. You seem to be a fiscal conservative which means in part that you expect getting an equal value back for money that is spent (balanced budgets). I believe that the TDC's scope has good intentions but the problem with big budgets is that money sometimes get spent just because it's there. We know that our South Walton community has issues with clean water, traffic, parking, helping our small businesses (backbone of our community and nation), growth and many other infrastruture problems associated with growth including basic maintenance. The infrastructure necessary for growth is probably the new direction of the TDC that most of us would agree on but these problems are neither glamorous or exciting to discuss or advertise. At some point you would think our community leaders would ask the question how much growth can South Walton support. I am not complaining about anything but just would like to know the answer to that question. I have noticed a "surprising" number of home/rentals new constructions. Do we have infrastructure to support that? I own a business that will benefit from this new construction but I love this "community" more than I do the money I make from it. Not every community has a TDC and we are fortunate to have this well funded agency looking out for you and me or are they?

mputnal3, your question is a good and valid one. First of all, may I suggest you look at the "Seaside is the best family beach" thread under All About SoWal and read Kurt's response as to why we need the TDC. It is well done and right to the point.

I am not a lover of tourism but the other side of the coin is that it is the major economic factor prevalent in SoWal. Our area would attract visitors with or without the TDC and that is a given. I think the TDC mission should be mainly services for those visitors and not advertising. This area advertises itself. It is how we came to live here. The beaches here in BMB, even at the height of the season, do not appear to me to be overly crowded. It is true that they will only support so many visitors at any given period but I do not think we are anywhere near that capacity level as yet. Should we plan for the future through expansion of our infrastructure? Sure! But I nor do I believe anybody else, has an answer to the question, "How many is too many".

You are right in your assessment that I am a fiscal conservative. When the money is generated by those who have a stake in the game and is used to support their efforts, the only thing to be asked is that it be used wisely and judiciously. Simply stated, it is my belief the TDC can put better use to their money than they have recently.
BeachSiO2 avatar
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic
#19
Andy A I am wondering what functions of the TDC are needed?

I am not AndyA, but here are a few of the functions they have performed and/or are currently involved in that most residents would approve of: beach cleaning, beach safety and education (including paying for current lifeguard program), beach and bay access development and maintenance, coastal dune lake park maintenance, beach and dune monitoring and restoration, financial and monitoring assistance to SW Turtle Watch group, and serving as contact for hurricane and storm damage recovery for beaches.
mputnalBeach Fanatic
#20
I completely agree with those functions and I understand that there is very tight budget for these things. These functions are vital for the protection of our resources and would be funded with or without the TDC.

I apologize but I am confused about the TDC mission, tourism capacity and funding. Is the mission to advertise a resource that not enough people already know about. I realize I am old fashioned but word of mouth is the best advertising so can we take care of the visitors we have already so that visitors will pass on good will? I am also a fiscal conservative and I find it hard to justify the expense of wining and dining travel agencies to get media coverage however I do agree that it was worth it in this instance because Seaside deserves that rating. I am conserned about a tourist returning to their home community with the impression that our water quality is poor or that parking and traffic was horrendous.

Don't we all have a "stake in the game"? Regardless of where the funding comes from every person or business that lives or works in Sowal is affected directly or indirectly by the TDC. The number of people "visiting" gives us jobs and uses our resources requiring a very important balance. We have to know how many are too many! I operate my business in part from experience and instinct and my experience is that if you do not have enough supply (product and equipment) to take care of demand then it is the beginning of a very serious problem. Supply side economics will not work in this community because we do not have unlimited capacity to take care of more and more people. The TDC must have an awareness of capacity before increasing these demands on our infrastructure. The name must change to the Tourist Management Council before we reach our capacity not after. We are but one even average disaster away from understanding that this game of media relations can be a two edged sword.

se things are necessary with or without the TDC.

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