Hollibird
HollibirdBeach LoverSanta Rosa Beach244 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
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:confused: I have a question. I am a transplanted north easterner living in Destin... but still. why would anyone refer to our beautiful area as the 'redneck riviera'? Why would you want to be associated with such a derogatory name? Why would someone be proud to be considered a 'redneck'? In my hometown, that just meant you were poor, uneducated, and toothless. does it mean something else down here?
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139Jdarg
JdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Just my two cents - "rednecks" are often racist. Of course they wouldn't admit it publically. There are alot of closet racists in the south (and in the panhandle as well), we are only a generation or two removed from the civil rights act, some lower class white people are still bitter about it - they are the true rednecks...
Overheard in 30A Subway during the lunch rush last week:
One redneck laborer: "Can't get a sandwich without waitin' behind a van full of Goddamned Mexicans or Ni**ers..."
I don't know if you would here a statement like that in say, the French Riviera, which might be one reason for the distinction...feel free to weigh in on that aspect...
I agree with you Panhandler. There are 2 kinds of rednecks I guess. We call the racist ones "trash" at my house. The trash are the ones that blame their problems in life on others, usually minorities, when it is their own ignorance and apathy that has caused their problems.
Teresa
TeresaSoWal GuideSouth Walton, FL30,980 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Guide
Just my two cents - "rednecks" are often racist. Of course they wouldn't admit it publically. There are alot of closet racists in the south (and in the panhandle as well), we are only a generation or two removed from the civil rights act, some lower class white people are still bitter about it - they are the true rednecks...
Overheard in 30A Subway during the lunch rush last week:
One redneck laborer: "Can't get a sandwich without waitin' behind a van full of Goddamned Mexicans or Ni**ers..."
I don't know if you would hear a statement like that in say, the French Riviera, which might be one reason for the distinction...feel free to weigh in on that aspect...
EDIT - Rednecks also litter...
Racists come from all corners of the world. believe me, there is racism on the French Riviera, and the Italian Riviera and just about every riviera on the earth and in between... racists and bigots are educated, wealthy or poor, redneck or yuppie, southern or yankee. Racism does not equal redneck. It is an entirely different and unfortunate kind of human characteristic.
kathydwells
kathydwellsDarlene is my middle name, not my nicknameLacey's Spring, Alabama13,303 postsJoined View profileMessageDarlene is my middle name, not my nickname
Racists come from all corners of the world. believe me, there is racism on the French Riviera, and the Italian Riviera and just about every riviera on the earth and in between... racists and bigots are educated, wealthy or poor, redneck or yuppie, southern or yankee. Racism does not equal redneck. It is an entirely different and unfortunate kind of human characteristic.
This is so true tootsie. As I have said before, I am a redneck and I am proud of it. I am not now, nor have I ever been a racist or a bigot. My parents did not raise me that way.
Just my two cents - "rednecks" are often racist. Of course they wouldn't admit it publically. There are alot of closet racists in the south (and in the panhandle as well), we are only a generation or two removed from the civil rights act, some lower class white people are still bitter about it - they are the true rednecks...
Overheard in 30A Subway during the lunch rush last week:
One redneck laborer: "Can't get a sandwich without waitin' behind a van full of Goddamned Mexicans or Ni**ers..."
I don't know if you would hear a statement like that in say, the French Riviera, which might be one reason for the distinction...feel free to weigh in on that aspect...
EDIT - Rednecks also litter...
So do non-rednecks Pan....why did you have to make that statement? What purpose did it serve?
Jdarg
JdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
I think Panhandler means "redneck" in the form of the kind of people that I was talking about- trash people. In other parts of the country, "redneck" does not mean the same thing as it does to those of us that embrace the traditional meaning of the name. That is why I have 2 names- "redneck" for people like us 😀 , and trash for the kind that Panhandler is referring to...I think the "redneck" label has unfortunatley become a derogatory term in most areas of our country, conjuring up a negative image rather than the traditional.:(
MermaidMermaidpicky7,871 postsJoined View profileMessagepicky
I only wish that I had some rednecks in my family that bequeathed me their gulf front property along 30-A.
Me too. Talk about having the last laugh!
Panhandler
PanhandlerBeach LoverIn the panhandle, man...210 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
I should clarify. That was my personal interpretation of the word at that moment. If you enjoy NASCAR, and large trucks, and football and barbeque and Jesus and Republicans and fried food and mobile homes that makes you a southerner in my opinion.
But I've referred to my dad a redneck because he still uses words like "fresh britches" and "young 'uns" when "children" need new "pants." I've called friends rednecks when I've caught them drinking Red Dog or Natural Light beer.
Of course racists come from all over (I wouldn't call Hitler a redneck), but that is the first characteristic that came to my head (effing redneck) when I overheard the racist remark last week from a tattood, white, leathery skinned smoker at the Subway...
It doesn't make the whole of the panhandle racist, of course. Redneck has many interpretations. Geez, there are some sensitive, guarded rednecks on this board...:idontno:
But I've referred to my dad a redneck because he still uses words like "fresh britches" and "young 'uns" when "children" need new "pants." I've called friends rednecks when I've caught them drinking Red Dog or Natural Light beer.
Of course racists come from all over (I wouldn't call Hitler a redneck), but that is the first characteristic that came to my head (effing redneck) when I overheard the racist remark last week from a tattood, white, leathery skinned smoker at the Subway...
It doesn't make the whole of the panhandle racist, of course. Redneck has many interpretations. Geez, there are some sensitive, guarded rednecks on this board...:idontno:
I have a question, being a yankee.... the confederate flag... You see rednecks flying that on their pick up trucks with the gun rack. I see heritage as a reason. but heritage of what? Besides wanted to keep slaves, what else were they fighting for? seperatism. of the U.S. so they could keep slaves... what else? (I've never been a cival war buff so I really don't know the answer) but help me learn so I don't want to scream "redneck!!" everytime I see one drive by.
... and can we get some freakin flouride in the water????
Smiling JOe
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
... and can we get some freakin flouride in the water????Don't you filter your drinking water? If you have the good filters, Flouride is filtered. Heck, today, most people drink bottled water. The only people who will have any chance of having teeth in 50 years are the rednecks who drink tap water and the people who are too cheap (or smart - I'm not sure which) to buy a filter or drink the bottled stuff. I would like to hear a Dentist's perspective on the subject. :funn:
laurawoodlaurawoodBeach Lover202 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
there's nothing wrong with being a little redneck. obviously a few havent made it to the mullet festival in boggy bayou yet. it is coming up in the fall. usually some pretty good tunes there. there is also the worm gruntin festival in sopchoppy every year. definitely dont like flouride in water. Prefer good well water anyday. still has all the good stuff and none of the chemicals.
Mango
MangoSoWal InsiderNew York/ Santa Rosa Beach9,699 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
I have a question, being a yankee.... the confederate flag... You see rednecks flying that on their pick up trucks with the gun rack. I see heritage as a reason. but heritage of what? Besides wanted to keep slaves, what else were they fighting for? seperatism. of the U.S. so they could keep slaves... what else? (I've never been a cival war buff so I really don't know the answer) but help me learn so I don't want to scream "redneck!!" everytime I see one drive by.
According to my father in law who has a collection of Civil War books and lives in the South now for retirement, he claims the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery and had everything to do with cotton and the politics between the North and South over the this commodity as well as tariffs, which is why the South wanted to secede from the union. Chances are these people still displaying the confederate flag on their gun racks don't even know who their father's are! :cool: So much for heritage.
RudyjohnRudyjohnSoWal InsiderChicago Area7,736 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
We avoid the flouride at all costs, and will not allow the dentist to use the flouride treatments. In my opinion, it is dangerous and unnecessary.
And as fas as the rednecks and the confederate flag, well, you're just gonna have to get used to it. Who knows why people do the things they do. My mother was a hoosier and they relocated to ALA in the 50's. She was miserable until the day she died and never accepted the south, the beauty or the culture or it's uniqueness. She felt as tho she was superior because she wasn't a southerner (or redneck?). Why? I have no idea. But I do know it has to be hard to be transplanted to an area that is so different but it really can be a great thing to experience in your life, if you let it.
And as fas as the rednecks and the confederate flag, well, you're just gonna have to get used to it. Who knows why people do the things they do. My mother was a hoosier and they relocated to ALA in the 50's. She was miserable until the day she died and never accepted the south, the beauty or the culture or it's uniqueness. She felt as tho she was superior because she wasn't a southerner (or redneck?). Why? I have no idea. But I do know it has to be hard to be transplanted to an area that is so different but it really can be a great thing to experience in your life, if you let it.
Franny
FrannyBeach FanaticPt. Washington4,026 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I have been dropping off Grayton Kid every morning at Bay Elementary in Pt. Washington.....I have seen no rednecks there! It is really weird. Prepy, white shirts coming out of the wood work. Watercolor, Rosemary, Seaside and Alys Beach... a whole different world for sure. I like to think that most of us are somehwere in between redneck and elite snobs. Let's just stay down home, friendly AND educated!I :wub: you SM and conpletely agree...
Franny
FrannyBeach FanaticPt. Washington4,026 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I have lived in Walton County, Atlanta, Austin TX, Denver CO, Newport Beach CA, Scottsdale AZ, and for the last 18 years in the Napa Valley...every single place had rednecks. They are universal. When I was an undergrad at FSU, a sorority girl with a crush on my cousin loved making fun of my Panhandle accent and referred to me as a "redneck." Well, this is a young woman whose father was a tomato farmer in South Florida and who actually wore a leopard-skin coat to classes in the winter months. I might have been a redneck (might still be...heck!), but I know lack of breeding and poor taste when I encounter it.:pissed:EXACATLY!!! Thank you Paula.
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