Hampton Inn Seagrove Beach on Chateau Hotel Property

Meeting was cancelled. What happened?

I went to the went to the annex and the meeting was cancelled. Does anyone know why and when it will take place?

The Chateau is a proposed 90 room hotel going before the county on December 11 at 5pm. the location is Seagrove Beach, near the First Baptist Church on 30A. I can't imagine the impact to this area, parking, beach access??? What are your thoughts?

Edit - details added ... proposed 4-story, 90-room Hampton Inn

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My, more in depth, answer: compatibility. Is this not a written and legal word that appears somewhere in the "codes"?

It's simply amazing what happens when over 4000 people sign a petition in a short period of time!

The "Drawbridge Doctrine" isn't a negative thing. I think we have a vested interest, if not a moral duty, to question all developers that come across the bridge, whether this or that particular project is what we would want to have "in our backyard". Isn't 30-A everyone's "backyard"?( And, I'm talking about the Greater Southeast, here.) Isn't this the place "we all" (residents and vacationers) want to go to, to get away from it? My definition of "it", what vacationers want to get away from, is big buildings, packed with too many people, and too much traffic generated from these people.


Time for a silly metaphor:

Most of us accept "undocumented aliens", if they work for a living, stay out of crime, and keep it clean. But, dammit, we sure do wish they spoke "English"!

Most of us accept developers... but, dammit, we sure do wish they spoke "Seagrove"!

I attended the Planning Commission meeting tonight. If I understand correctly, there will be a special Planning Commission meeting for the Hampton Inn proposal on January 14. The reason given was that they expect a lot of folks to attend and think it will be a long meeting.


In other news, The Regal across from the Tom Thumb was approved.

Also approved, if you own property in "Grayton Beach", you can get a permit to drive on the beach without going through the lottery.

Everything I have read puts the planning commission meeting on the 8th. You are probably more in the know than I.

I have friends and relatives that didn't rent in Seagrove Beach this summer because of crowding and traffic. How could one hotel make it any worse?

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I think it's time to halt all development. Our fragile environment is over maximum capacity. We're on a downhill slope and the only sensible thing to do is stop killing what makes the area special.

This development would be a very bad idea. A couple of months ago there was a meeting regarding the parking problem along 30A. Now they are considering adding a resort to the area. The largest problem that will be encountered in stopping this project are the politicians, they know which side the bread is buttered.

I can just imagine their website saying the hotel is "just steps from the beach" when they are really over half a mile away. The closest public access, at the bend of Eastern Lake Road is unusable because the outfall was allowed to migrate west, cutting it off. You'd have to wade through the outfall to get to the beach. The next closest access, Ramsgate, is on the southern part of Eastern Lake Road, which is a one-lane dead end with no place to turn around except in someone's carport. Neither access has any parking or restroom, and Ramsgate doesn't have a footwash.

How are these hundreds of people going to get to the beach? A shuttle? A shuttle can't turn around at Ramsgate, and there's no bench for them to sit while waiting for a shuttle. They are going to DRIVE, park illegally and get towed. This hotel will have to lie to prospective guests about their beach access.

I think a lot of people are getting worked up over nothing. There's a hell of a lot of property tackier than a Hampton Inn on 30a and those who boast about being "too classy" for this and that sound elitist. Frankly, for me all those rich snobs from Atlanta that descend on the area in the Spring and summer are a little much. And some people like to come down on weekends and get a hotel room rather than rent a condo. Lighten up folks.

This development would be a very bad idea. A couple of months ago there was a meeting regarding the parking problem along 30A. Now they are considering adding a resort to the area. The largest problem that will be encountered in stopping this project are the politicians, they know which side the bread is buttered.

Welcome to the forum - what resort have you heard about?

I think a lot of people are getting worked up over nothing. There's a hell of a lot of property tackier than a Hampton Inn on 30a and those who boast about being "too classy" for this and that sound elitist. Frankly, for me all those rich snobs from Atlanta that descend on the area in the Spring and summer are a little much. And some people like to come down on weekends and get a hotel room rather than rent a condo. Lighten up folks.

Ricky, I have absolutely no concern about the type of people. It is purely the volume of people in a tight area.

Read Douglas' post. It explains everything.

Ricky, I have absolutely no concern about the type of people. It is purely the volume of people in a tight area.

Read Douglas' post. It explains everything.

I am thinking about starting a valet company off of Lakewood, so dont screw it up for me!)

I've noticed some of the abandoned condo projects on 30a have restarted. Does that bother all you "stop all development" activists? Frankly, I think it looks a hell of a lot better than run down, bankrupt developments. I hope the Hilton Hotel people show up at the hearing to voice their side.

http://www.30aescapes.com/vacation-rental-home.asp?PageDataID=94150

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ricky, i have absolutely no concern about the type of people. It is purely the volume of people in a tight area.

Read douglas' post. It explains everything.

exactly!!!!

I can just imagine their website saying the hotel is "just steps from the beach" when they are really over half a mile away. The closest public access, at the bend of Eastern Lake Road is unusable because the outfall was allowed to migrate west, cutting it off. You'd have to wade through the outfall to get to the beach. The next closest access, Ramsgate, is on the southern part of Eastern Lake Road, which is a one-lane dead end with no place to turn around except in someone's carport. Neither access has any parking or restroom, and Ramsgate doesn't have a footwash. How are these hundreds of people going to get to the beach? A shuttle? A shuttle can't turn around at Ramsgate, and there's no bench for them to sit while waiting for a shuttle. They are going to DRIVE, park illegally and get towed. This hotel will have to lie to prospective guests about their beach access.

beach access was the main reason I didn't buy in the pre construction at Chateau 30A hence its demise. Did buy into
1900-98.com on beach 16 unit high rise only 4 left. Construction starts this month. No parking problems. #flipping

Hampton Inn during spring break. Think about it?
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Maybe they can build a Hampton Inn at Inlet Beach and build a 100 unit condo development at Seagrove.

1900-98.com on beach 16 unit high rise only 4 left. Construction starts this month. No parking problems. #flipping

I guess you mean no parking problems for the beach once you figure out where to put your SUV. I saw on the website 'one assigned parking space' per three bedroom unit. Maybe there is overflow parking somewhere?

I've noticed some of the abandoned condo projects on 30a have restarted. Does that bother all you "stop all development" activists? Frankly, I think it looks a hell of a lot better than run down, bankrupt developments. I hope the Hilton Hotel people show up at the hearing to voice their side.

You are correct observing that there tons of NIMBYs around here, but this isn't simple NIMBYism at work here. The scale of the project is out of proportion to the surrounding area. I have a feeling this may be a trial balloon guaging what they may or may not be able to get built on the property. Surely, local developers learned a lesson from the recent Dollar General shootdown in Inlet Beach. Perhaps the real goal is a much smaller scale short term rental facilty whose construction will be viewed as a "win/win" for all involved. Time will tell.

You are correct observing that there tons of NIMBYs around here, but this isn't simple NIMBYism at work here. The scale of the project is out of proportion to the surrounding area. I have a feeling this may be a trial balloon guaging what they may or may not be able to get built on the property. Surely, local developers learned a lesson from the recent Dollar General shootdown in Inlet Beach. Perhaps the real goal is a much smaller scale short term rental facilty whose construction will be viewed as a "win/win" for all involved. Time will tell.

Do you think that if someone proposed a nice throw back, 50's style motel, ala Cowgirl Kitchen's style of building, that people would mind? I don't. Athough the traffic, particularly where that parcel is, backs up and it floods on the northside so I hear. So I think aesthetics trump impact and are key to the approval. Thoughts?

From Walton County Public Information (posted today):

PUBLIC NOTICE

The following Planning Item in regard to the development of a potential Hampton Inn has been moved to a special called meeting scheduled for January 14th at 5:00pm.

There will be no discussion of this item at the January 8[SUP]th[/SUP] Planning Commission Meeting.

Re-Design of Chateau 30A - Project number 14-00100167 is being reviewed by Brian Underwood. This is a major development order application submitted by Jenkins Engineering, Inc., requesting approval to develop a 44,205 square foot, 90-room limited lodging hotel and a 660 square foot retail space on a 2.4-acre parcel with a future land use of Village Mixed Use. The project is located on East CR 30A north of Williams Street and is identified by parcel number(s) 24-3S-19-25030-000-0021.

The January 14th Special Planning Commission Meeting will be held at 5:00pm in the South Walton Annex Board Room located at 31 Coastal Centre Blvd. in Santa Rosa Beach.

I guess you mean no parking problems for the beach once you figure out where to put your SUV. I saw on the website 'one assigned parking space' per three bedroom unit. Maybe there is overflow parking somewhere?

That's what the 150 spot public parking lot behind it are for.

I guess you mean no parking problems for the beach once you figure out where to put your SUV. I saw on the website 'one assigned parking space' per three bedroom unit. Maybe there is overflow parking somewhere?

very large parking over flow parking lot across the street by back porch