Cancelling Plans

You may be right. Sorry about your trip.

I don't have much sympathy for the tourists whose vacations have been canceled. While we worked our you-know-whats off boarding up in 90-something degree heat, the renters next door were lounging at the pool. Yes, someone's vacation might be ruined, but the owners risk losing their homes that, in our case at least, they worked a lifetime to acquire.

I don't have much sympathy for the tourists whose vacations have been canceled. While we worked our you-know-whats off boarding up in 90-something degree heat, the renters next door were lounging at the pool. Yes, someone's vacation might be ruined, but the owners risk losing their homes that, in our case at least, they worked a lifetime to acquire.

We're all praying that your property will be fine Fay. Thank goodness for insurance, too! My husband is looking into a position in the Fort Walton area, but we would definitely need to take hurricanes into consideration if we were to move. It's a risk of living/owning there, just as any area that deals with natural disaster. We can be thankful we aren't in California, where they deal not only with earthquakes, but mudslides and wild fires too. Hang in there, you will come through this!

Dawgfish, I am sorry about your trip, too. Time and money are precious when vacationing. Have you decided on a Plan B yet? How old is your little girl? I'm sure she will be excited to get to go on any trip with her family. 😀

I appreciate that PHDPHAY. I, however, do have a ton of sympathy for you and all the owners along the Emerald Coast or any other place that is a storm's path. As I said earlier, I realize that my concerns pale in comparison to yours, but like you, we have agendas too. It is a shame that some tourists give all tourists a bad name, but the same can be said for owners too.

And another thing, while I am at it, I can CERTAINLY appreciate something that you have worked your whole life for, I guarantee you there have been plenty of times you have been lounging at your place while I was working my you know what off in 90 degree heat, not because I needed to save my vacation home, but because my bread depended on it. I do it EVERYDAY. I have worked as hard as anyone and harder than most to get to VISIT the Gulf Coast, and I'll have you know that I appreciate every square inch of that place, have since the first time I stepped foot there 20 years ago. I only dream of being an owner in a place like that someday, but when I do, I hope I don't have the same attitude as you, because I will remember what it is like on the outside looking in. Spending many a long day starving for the beach and tranquil waves, the peace and quite, and God's beauty at your finger tips.

BEACHDREAMER: Thanks for the kind words. No we don't have a plan 'B', and it does'nt appear that here will be one. But, I think I am going to take our vacation money and put it down on the installation of a pool at our home. So that would be nice for the rest of summer

And another thing, while I am at it, I can CERTAINLY appreciate something that you have worked your whole life for, I guarantee you there have been plenty of times you have been lounging at your place while I was working my you know what off in 90 degree heat, not because I needed to save my vacation home, but because my bread depended on it. I do it EVERYDAY. I have worked as hard as anyone and harder than most to get to VISIT the Gulf Coast, and I'll have you know that I appreciate every square inch of that place, have since the first time I stepped foot there 20 years ago. I only dream of being an owner in a place like that someday, but when I do, I hope I don't have the same attitude as you, because I will remember what it is like on the outside looking in. Spending many a long day starving for the beach and tranquil waves, the peace and quite, and God's beauty at your finger tips.

As Paul Harvey says, "and now you know the rest of the story." :clap_1:

I don't have much sympathy for the tourists whose vacations have been canceled. While we worked our you-know-whats off boarding up in 90-something degree heat, the renters next door were lounging at the pool. Yes, someone's vacation might be ruined, but the owners risk losing their homes that, in our case at least, they worked a lifetime to acquire.

First of all no one held a gun to your head when you purchased your property, you knew the risks. Second of all, what is it with SOME of the property owners in SoWal and their disdain for the tourists? I don't get it. Is it the renter's next door who are causing the hurricane? Without the tourists most "locals" wouldn't have the means to own property in SoWal. If you don't want to live in a "tourist mecca" move away!

I don't have much sympathy for the tourists whose vacations have been canceled. While we worked our you-know-whats off boarding up in 90-something degree heat, the renters next door were lounging at the pool. Yes, someone's vacation might be ruined, but the owners risk losing their homes that, in our case at least, they worked a lifetime to acquire.

Many, many of those "tourists" are people having long-planned family reunions, with all the assorted dramas and celebrations that go with them. It may not be a financial loss, but it certainly is an emotional loss. And, as stated above, without those tourists SoWal owners would not be enjoying the property values they see today.

When you've gone without food to get the education to be fortunate enough to be able to own a place at the beach, and then you drive away crying from your boarded-up home, wondering what the storm will do to it, you'd feel like I feel. Sorry about your vacation DAWGFISH, but you must understand that what we're dealing with is orders of magnitude worse than canceling a vacation.

Insurance is "no insurance." Our insurance company went bankrupt last fall. I heard that many people with claims never got paid. I guess that's why you still see so much blue plastic around - they can't afford to repair the damage. If the Panhandle takes another hit, more insurance companies could go under.

BTW I am a bit annoyed with renters because of the amazing number of items that are broken, missing, or abused by them. But I can't afford not to rent at this point in time.

I too am just a "tourist" who has worked all year many hours a day to be able to come to a place that myself and my family consider to be the most beautiful place in the world. I can only dream of being able to afford my own home there. My children and my grandchildren look forward to this time every year and have for the last 13 years. I hope and pray that this storm does absolutely no damage to anyone's home or any of the area. I have been a little surprised that the home owners and locals hold such disdain for the people that can only afford to rent a place there for a week a year. It seems to me that we are the one's that partly fund through our rent money other people's ability to own and maintain a home there. I still love the area and I will continue to vacation there but I will be a little more aware of the way that people think of me.
I really hope that everyone is safe and that Dennis goes away.

Many, many of those "tourists" are people having long-planned family reunions, with all the assorted dramas and celebrations that go with them. It may not be a financial loss, but it certainly is an emotional loss. And, as stated above, without those tourists SoWal owners would not be enjoying the property values they see today.

On a very personal level, I feel awful for everyone. We are fortunate enough to own a couple of places on 30-A. We considered hurricanes as a part of the package when we purchased. We dread it and try not to worry but we do. It's impossible not to!

I consider the guest that visit us throughout the year as a blessing (95%) of them anyway. Many of them return each year and we stay in touch throughout the year.


I also have have many friends that I have met over the past 3 years that live in or around the area. They would not be losing their vacation homes but their homes and quite possibly their livelihood as well.

I feel terrible that my guests that have worked and planned for months for a beach vacation won't be able to be there.:( But, I am glad they won't be in harms way. I have offered to my friends there, my home in Georgia if they need a place to go. They'd do the same for me if the need was there.

I'd really hate to lose our places in paradise. But in the end, it's stuff. I can replace stuff. I couldn't replace my friends. So friends everywhere, be safe,stay in touch, and take care.

I plan on coming to our cottage in SoWal a week from this Monday so I, too, am watching the storm (which seems to be headed west of us as of this morning). I am planning to travel with two children (11 years old) and we've been planning this trip (my daughter's dream trip to go with her best friend) for about 3 months. The only thing that would stop me from bringing the kids is if there is no electricity. Otherwise, I think they'd be awed by the area. I was there a few days after Ivan last year and loved being there and appreciated getting a first-hand view of the beach after a hurricane -- very humbling. At the time, I had said that I wish my children had been with me because they still could have played at the beach, collected tons of seashells that typically aren't on our beach (they are now in our living room in Michigan), gained some more respect for mother nature, and seen how the SoWal residents and guests pull together after an emergency -- Creola's restaurant even made a free dinner for the county workers and passerbys who pulled things together quickly after the hurricane. You can't learn some of these lessons or enjoy them from a book or TV show.

I did get some good advice, though, about kids on the beach after a hurricane -- be careful of the wood and other debris that may be dangerous (nails, sharp edges, etc.).

But, I certainly understand buying a pool instead this year, especially if this was to be an extra special vacation for you this year and you don't come here often. We'll still be here next year and the year after that and the year after that.

As for guests relaxing before a storm, I say "relax away" and use your energy to maintain your own homes, jobs, etc. when you get back to your homes. Right now, putting up plywood is annoying, but frankly our family spends as much time and more money shoveling snow every year in Michigan -- or paying for someone to do it -- than we do preparing our cottages for hurricanes. We knew the risk of hurricanes before we bought property here (although I must say it's more real now!).

Our guests have been fantastic in the past two years we've been renting our cottages and have given us more in good will, kind words, thoughtful care of our cottages when they are there, references for other guests, and income to help pay the mortgages. We couldn't have our cottages that make us happy without our guests. So, my vote is for guests to relax in the days before the storm. You can help by going to restaurants and support local businesses because these businesses lose considerable income in the days before, after, and during hurricanes.

BTW I am a bit annoyed with renters because of the amazing number of items that are broken, missing, or abused by them. But I can't afford not to rent at this point in time.

It sounds like you are saying that these are the real reasons why you are upset with the renters, all of which are justifiable reasons. Being mad at people trying to enjoy their vacation while you are working is not a reason. That is what started this sandbox fight. Glad you were able to sort through your feelings to get to the real problem. I feel for you having to struggle with boarding. I just finished helping my neighbors do the same thing. Perhaps if your neighbors were not tourists, they would give you a hand. I am not about to get into the boarding / unboarding business, but if you (Phdphay) need a hand taking it all down, PM me your address / phone #, and when I can, I will drop by and assist you. 😀

Being a full timer myself, these are my thoughts......

Yes, my property value would not be what it is without the tourist - however, I don't care that my values have more than tripled since we purchased, I'm not planning to sell.

I love living here and we made a choice to move from central Alabama. Many people have a choice on where to live and we made this decision to live here.

My friends back home think I loll in the sun all day while eating bon bons - Not true!!! I work full time, enjoy my work and love living here.

I do resent the tourist coming here and not caring about those of us that do live here full time -

some walk down our street like they own the road, we can't even drive down our street - believe it or not, we do have places to go.

I ask people to please stay off our dunes - even though signs are posted to stay OFF, many just don't care. Many feel just because they are spending $$$ to stay on the beach, they can do what they please. With the damage that Arlene did to our dunes, I can only imaging what Dennis will do.

I do understand having to postpone a vacation - but I agree with the earlier post about seeing people lolling at the pool while those of us in 90+ degeree heat were boarding up - you stayed till the very last minute enjoying your "vacation" while we are trying to do everything to save our one and only place to live - for many, this is your second or third home, if my house is gone, I have a car to live in.

My income does not depend on tourism so please don't think you are doing ME a favor by coming to my area!!!

Please have respect for us as we would you in your own back yard.

I have been coming to this area since the early 60's with my parents - I hate to see it lose it's uniqueness. Destin has been ruined.

I know I'm going to blasted on this - go ahead.

I'm leaving at noon today and praying for the best for all of us. I cannot imagine what those poor people of P'cola and Navarre are even thinking.

Hey Seagrover! Now that I am unemployed AGAIN! I will sit on the porch and eat bon ons with you and Bubba!

Paula

Next year I think I would like to rent from you. How lucky some people are that they don't have to depend on tourism. I never felt like I was doing anyone a favor by coming there. I really felt like they were doing me a favor to allow me to come and visit their home. We have never been destructive or disrespectful. I have learned a lot by reading this message board.

I am not about to get into the boarding / unboarding business, but if you (Phdphay) need a hand taking it all down, PM me your address / phone #, and when I can, I will drop by and assist you. 😀

That is *so* nice. Thanks! 🙂

We do have many visitors that are a delight - not everyone is destructive. There are a few that spoil the whole bunch.

Hey, Kimmi, come on over. Bubba and I will be back hopefully Monday or Tuesday and we can do some "porch sitting" and eat those bon bons.

Bubba and I are leaving soon to go to God's country - Auburn - and "hunker down". We will see if my mate goes with me - I might just have to take "the fish" with me - sometimes his daddy doesn't think these things out real well - he JUST went to buy batteries!!!