I just found out from my neighbor that a female dwarf sperm whale out 10 ft, who had just given birth came close to shore last night, at the Gulfview heights beach access. The sharks attacked the baby and her. She was vomiting I believe what is called ambergris, which is a dark waxy substance produce by the whale. It looks a little like blood. He said that she had some injuries too.
Officials were called and apparently the police shot her thinking she was bleeding and suffering.
My neighbor was on the beach for 3 hrs. and the TDC came in he said. (he volunteers for a group in Destin that protects the marine and wildlife) I was on the beach last night at sunset, and I am glad I missed it. Apparently there is going to be an investigation and it has become a national incident due to whether the whale should have been shot. The carcass was removed and brought to PCB Sanctuary for forensics.
Mango
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54Bobby J
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What?????:idontno:
John R
John Rneeds to get out moreConflictinator6,782 postsJoined View profileMessageneeds to get out more
shoot first and ask questions later? was there a marine veterinarian on site?
30A Skunkape
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This sounds too incredible to have really happened:shock:
Hop
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:shock: that is unbelieveable :shock:
Mango
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What?????:idontno:
shoot first and ask questions later? was there a marine veterinarian on site?
This sounds too incredible to have really happened:shock:
I was tired when I posted, so when I meant last night, I meant Wednesday evening, but from what my neighbor told me, he had made some calls to get someone knowledgeable out there, but by the time they came, the animal had been shot already. I did do some research on sperm whales because I thought they were huge, but there is a dwarf species that inhabits warm waters. The article is in the Walton Sun
http://www.waltonsun.com/
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30A Skunkape
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I was tired when I posted, so when I meant last night, I meant Wednesday evening, but from what my neighbor told me, he had made some calls to get someone knowledgeable out there, but by the time they came, the animal had been shot already. I did do some research on sperm whales because I thought they were huge, but there is a dwarf species that inhabits warm waters. The article is in the Walton Sun
http://www.waltonsun.com/
Holy cow:bang:
Mango
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Breaking News
UPDATE: Deputy shoots protected whale on Santa Rosa Beach
October 12, 2006
Gabriel Tynes
gtynes@link.freedom.com
Various reports are indicating that a Walton County Sheriff?s Office deputy shot an ailing, protected whale species on Santa Rosa Beach Wednesday evening without the approval of state or federal wildlife officials. Lt. Bryan Maule, public information officer for the WCSO, said the deputy shot the eight-foot pygmy sperm whale after observing it ?suffering from great pain.?
Deputies and workers from the Tourist Development Council responded to the call around 6:15 p.m., and found beachgoers attempting to resuscitate the whale in red-flag surf. According to witnesses, more than 30 people were at the scene.
Internal fluids were spilling from the whale and deputies asked people to leave the area to eliminate the risks of shark attacks. One source reported that while the whale was in distress, it still appeared strong - swimming as far as 100 feet offshore four times before turning back toward the beach.
Lt. Maule said the deputies assisted in trying to get the whale swimming once more before pulling it onshore and waiting for wildlife officials to respond.
?I was told that the deputies involved were expecting a 60-90 minute response time from wildlife agencies,? Maule said. ?This entire time, the whale was flailing around and appeared to be in pain.?
Maule said the deputies made an on-scene decision to euthanize the whale after being advised by a veterinarian over the phone that it was going euthanized anyway. Once the deputies cleared the water and the beach, one or more gunshots were heard.
The whale was transported to the TDC equipment yard on Satinwood Lane where it was rinsed before officials from the National Marine Fisheries Service and Gulf World Marine Park picked it up at 8:15 p.m. Sheriff?s deputies present when wildlife officials finally arrived made no mention of having euthanized the animal themselves.
Instead, the wildlife team speculated that the wounds could have been caused by cookie cutter sharks. The team was able to positively identify the whale as an adult, female, pygmy sperm whale and said it appeared as if it had recently given birth.
When she arrived on the scene, the NMFS Marine Mammal Stranding Area Representative Sebrina Brown said, ?cookie cutter shark bites can look like gunshot wounds, but we can?t rule out human involvement.?
Brown said a necropsy on Thursday would determine the cause of death and whether the
whale had any diseases.
Keen Polakoff, a Santa Rosa Beach resident who witnessed the incident with his wife Kimberly, said that although the whale was acting unusual, he believed it was in no immediate danger of dying. Other residents who attempted to save the whale are waiting results of the necropsy to determine whether to file official complaints against the Sheriff?s Office.
?Whether or not that whale would have been able to sustain itself in the water is unclear,? Lt. Maule said. He also indicated that he had not seen the official report on the incident.
?But as far as I?m concerned we followed procedure.?
According to the Encyclopedia of Marine Mammals, the pygmy sperm is among the smallest of all whales and is not much larger than most dolphins. Although they have world-wide distribution, they are rarely sighted at sea and most scientific information about the species is that gathered from stranded specimens.
See more information in Saturday's Walton Sun
Breaking News
UPDATE: Deputy shoots protected whale on Santa Rosa Beach
October 12, 2006
Gabriel Tynes
gtynes@link.freedom.com
Various reports are indicating that a Walton County Sheriff?s Office deputy shot an ailing, protected whale species on Santa Rosa Beach Wednesday evening without the approval of state or federal wildlife officials. Lt. Bryan Maule, public information officer for the WCSO, said the deputy shot the eight-foot pygmy sperm whale after observing it ?suffering from great pain.?
Deputies and workers from the Tourist Development Council responded to the call around 6:15 p.m., and found beachgoers attempting to resuscitate the whale in red-flag surf. According to witnesses, more than 30 people were at the scene.
Internal fluids were spilling from the whale and deputies asked people to leave the area to eliminate the risks of shark attacks. One source reported that while the whale was in distress, it still appeared strong - swimming as far as 100 feet offshore four times before turning back toward the beach.
Lt. Maule said the deputies assisted in trying to get the whale swimming once more before pulling it onshore and waiting for wildlife officials to respond.
?I was told that the deputies involved were expecting a 60-90 minute response time from wildlife agencies,? Maule said. ?This entire time, the whale was flailing around and appeared to be in pain.?
Maule said the deputies made an on-scene decision to euthanize the whale after being advised by a veterinarian over the phone that it was going euthanized anyway. Once the deputies cleared the water and the beach, one or more gunshots were heard.
The whale was transported to the TDC equipment yard on Satinwood Lane where it was rinsed before officials from the National Marine Fisheries Service and Gulf World Marine Park picked it up at 8:15 p.m. Sheriff?s deputies present when wildlife officials finally arrived made no mention of having euthanized the animal themselves.
Instead, the wildlife team speculated that the wounds could have been caused by cookie cutter sharks. The team was able to positively identify the whale as an adult, female, pygmy sperm whale and said it appeared as if it had recently given birth.
When she arrived on the scene, the NMFS Marine Mammal Stranding Area Representative Sebrina Brown said, ?cookie cutter shark bites can look like gunshot wounds, but we can?t rule out human involvement.?
Brown said a necropsy on Thursday would determine the cause of death and whether the
whale had any diseases.
Keen Polakoff, a Santa Rosa Beach resident who witnessed the incident with his wife Kimberly, said that although the whale was acting unusual, he believed it was in no immediate danger of dying. Other residents who attempted to save the whale are waiting results of the necropsy to determine whether to file official complaints against the Sheriff?s Office.
?Whether or not that whale would have been able to sustain itself in the water is unclear,? Lt. Maule said. He also indicated that he had not seen the official report on the incident.
?But as far as I?m concerned we followed procedure.?
According to the Encyclopedia of Marine Mammals, the pygmy sperm is among the smallest of all whales and is not much larger than most dolphins. Although they have world-wide distribution, they are rarely sighted at sea and most scientific information about the species is that gathered from stranded specimens.
See more information in Saturday's Walton Sun
Miss Kitty
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:(
Smiling JOe
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Well, I hope that if that officer is on the scene if I am ever in a car wreck with a broken leg, obviously suffering from pain, and the ambulance is expected to take an hour and a half to get to me, that he doesn't shoot me.
Was any SoWaller present on the beach that evening who can report more info?
Was any SoWaller present on the beach that evening who can report more info?
Beachmom
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:confused: :(
Here4Good
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Well, I hope that if that officer is on the scene if I am ever in a car wreck with a broken leg, obviously suffering from pain, and the ambulance is expected to take an hour and a half to get to me, that he doesn't shoot me.
Was any SoWaller present on the beach that evening who can report more info?
Also makes me glad the SO isn't running the lifeguard system! I'd hate to be flopping around on the beach, gasping for air and end up "euthanized"!
:roll:
Uncle Timmy
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What an unbelievable story, I go to that beach access sometimes -I am so glad I didn't have to witness this event.
steele mama
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Another person banned from sowal.
kathydwells
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How incredibly sad this is. :(
Smiling JOe
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I wonder if this is the same cop who invites kids to sound his siren :idontno:
rapunzel
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I wonder if this is the same cop who invites kids to sound his siren :idontno:
I was thinking the same thing. Isn't there like a waiting list to be a deputy in this county? You would think that they would have the best and brightest. To shoot an endangered animal on the beach... I hope the deputy was just an ultra-senstive soul who made a mistake and not a yahoo thrilled to have an opportunity to use his gun. The PR/spokesperson could really have done a better job with this one.
Smiling JOe
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I was thinking the same thing. Isn't there like a waiting list to be a deputy in this county? You would think that they would have the best and brightest. To shoot an endangered animal on the beach... I hope the deputy was just an ultra-senstive soul who made a mistake and not a yahoo thrilled to have an opportunity to use his gun. The PR/spokesperson could really have done a better job with this one.
All of this certainly makes for an interesting news story, and I hope you are right that he was not just wanting to do some target practice and be seen as the hero for helping put the whale out of its misery. Without being there to see for myself, it would be difficult for me to really point a finger. What is that old saying? "It is easy to coach from the bleachers."
We all probably have some deep-rooted feelings on euthanasia to begin with. I can clearly see two opposing sides to it, and may be able to justify either side at any given time, given the "right" circumstances.
Mango
MangoSoWal InsiderNew York/ Santa Rosa Beach9,699 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderAuthor
Well, I hope that if that officer is on the scene if I am ever in a car wreck with a broken leg, obviously suffering from pain, and the ambulance is expected to take an hour and a half to get to me, that he doesn't shoot me.
Was any SoWaller present on the beach that evening who can report more info?
I went to the beach that night, but walked down S. Spooky lane. It was windy and the surf was a little rough, so I didn't do my walk. The whlae was between Spooky Lane and Goatfeathers access. Keen named in the article is our friend, and he told us about it last night when we had a Board meeting.
He witnessed the whole thing and still upset about it.😱
Uncle Timmy
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Scary, but the Walton County Sherrif's Office Website does show both an Ahab and a Queequeg as employees.
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