septic tanks and feces

Has anyone thought seriously about a Concerned Citizens type group to back issues of this sort? I vaguely remember some alliance from this board...can some one help my mentalpause?

Or try The South Walton Community Council at <http://www.southwaltoncc.org/>

Moondance, I have not thoroughly researched every page regarding Gulf Trace found in the Clerk of Court's Office. However, I did find two points of interest which you may persuit.

Found in the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions, OR(official records) book 190 / page 17, dated 6/17/1980:

1) Page 2, par. 7, ..."The residences shall use septic tanks or sanitary sewer meeting the requirements of Walton County."...

To me, this sounds as though you, as a property owner, have a choice to use sewer.

2) page 2, par. 9, "No noxious or offensive trade shall be carried on upon any said lot or property in the subdivision nor shall anything to be done thereon which may be or become an annoyance or nuisance to the neighborhood....."

It seems to me that septic tanks polluting the beach and Gulf at Gulf Trace could certainly be deemed both an annoyance and a nuisance to the neighborhood.

I am not an attorney, not even close, but I hope this may give you some ammo.

I am sure that you, as an owner in Gulf Trace, know that, according to these same Restrictive Covenants page 3, par. 12, , "it shall be lawful for any owner of property in this subdivision to prosecute proceeds at law or in equity against such lot owner or person either to prevent the violation or to recover damages for such violation."

I wish I had more time to allocate to researching further. There may be updates or changes to these original Restrictive Covenants of which you should be aware.

This is awesome, SJ :clap_1: , thanks for the time on this. If you have copies of any docs, please send PM and attach, or I'll give you an alternate email. Thanks for your help and interest!

Try BeachtoBay.org

That was the one!! Awesome site...especially the fly over photo! Thanks.

You are one of the good ones...always helping out. I'm glad you got MD's back!

Just wanted to show you a little about the pond scum with whom we are fighting. James Ray was obviously posing, and showing his better side.

You might be a redneck if you park your cattle trailers in your driveway at your Gulf front homes.

I sure am glad that my neighbors are a little more friendly than JD Hogg (Boss Hogg from the Duke Boys).

SJ, we got more than bargained for with the pictures (worth only a 1,000 words?). I don't even know where to begin. I suppose it could be an advance team of vehicles to begin salvage before quick demolition?? This is not the sort of news I was hoping for, but not entirely unexpected.

Any one have news from the BCC meeting today? I know it was a regular meeting, not called purely for septic issue, but was hoping it got some airing (wheww!). Please post whatever you have of interest. Thanks.

Good news for all of us! Last night our County Commission voted unanimously to loan Regional Utilities approx. $400,000 required to install water and sewer lines for Gulf Trace and Bannerman Estates.

The agreement required only gulf front homeowners to get on-board with water and sewer lines immediately. Other non-gulf front owners may sign on with Regional Utilities when they choose. Regional is selling these property owners tap fees for 1/2 price and will finance the complete installation over 20 years, costing only approx. $74 per month.

Jimmy Ray and other Gulf Trace property owners have already agreed to sign up.

Regional Utilities is planning to put out a bond in the near future to fund this and other projects. The County loan will be paid back from this bond.

The other good news is that Gulf Crowder, the contracted dune lake contractor has finished their 1st pass at cleaning up Little Redfish Lake. Most large items and larger septic items have been removed and hauled away. We still need them to return to pick up the drainfield styrofoam cubes along the shoreline, but they've come a long way!

Thanks to all who pitched in sending emails, phone calls, etc to the County Commission to help pave the way for water and sewer into Gulf Trace!!!! :laughing1

Good news for all of us! Last night our County Commission voted unanimously to loan Regional Utilities approx. $400,000 required to install water and sewer lines for Gulf Trace and Bannerman Estates.

The agreement required only gulf front homeowners to get on-board with water and sewer lines immediately. Other non-gulf front owners may sign on with Regional Utilities when they choose. Regional is selling these property owners tap fees for 1/2 price and will finance the complete installation over 20 years, costing only approx. $74 per month.

Jimmy Ray and other Gulf Trace property owners have already agreed to sign up.

Regional Utilities is planning to put out a bond in the near future to fund this and other projects. The County loan will be paid back from this bond.

The other good news is that Gulf Crowder, the contracted dune lake contractor has finished their 1st pass at cleaning up Little Redfish Lake. Most large items and larger septic items have been removed and hauled away. We still need them to return to pick up the drainfield styrofoam cubes along the shoreline, but they've come a long way!

Thanks to all who pitched in sending emails, phone calls, etc to the County Commission to help pave the way for water and sewer into Gulf Trace!!!! :laughing1

Thanks for the update DR - great effort on your part. I had a good feeling that this mess would finally get taken care of. Hopefully it is a good solution for everyone and Gulf Trace will be the great neighborhood everyone wants it to be.

Thanks for the update DR - great effort on your part. I had a good feeling that this mess would finally get taken care of. Hopefully it is a good solution for everyone and Gulf Trace will be the great neighborhood everyone wants it to be.

Yee-Haw! Great news! Congrats Moondance and other GT owners. Now where did I park my horse?

Now that's what we were talkin' about!!!!! I applaud MD and everyone else working on this...sounds like win-win for homeowners and beach alike. So....just who was ez?

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All the effort is paying off! This forum's ability to connect people is extraordinary :!:

Good news for all of us! Last night our County Commission voted unanimously to loan Regional Utilities approx. $400,000 required to install water and sewer lines for Gulf Trace and Bannerman Estates.


Jimmy Ray and other Gulf Trace property owners have already agreed to sign up.

Thanks to all who pitched in sending emails, phone calls, etc to the County Commission to help pave the way for water and sewer into Gulf Trace!!!! :laughing1

Awesome news! Thanks for making my day :clap_1:

And thanks for the photos, SJ...you're right....it pretty much says it all about JR, though it's good to know that he's willing to sign on now that the County's footing the bill for his stinky problem!

What terrific news this is! It reaffirms one's faith in due process. Power to the people!

OUTSTANDING!! I am reading the news from a kiosk in Dulles airport and I am thrilled. Thanks to all who were interested and vocal, and thanks for this board. This is truly excellent news. :clap_1: :clap_1:

Maybe we can now change the name of this thread to something less noxious and a little more positive?? I'm sure SJ and witty others will have good thoughts... ;-)

OUTSTANDING!! I am reading the news from a kiosk in Dulles airport and I am thrilled. Thanks to all who were interested and vocal, and thanks for this board. This is truly excellent news. :clap_1: :clap_1:

Maybe we can now change the name of this thread to something less noxious and a little more positive?? I'm sure SJ and witty others will have good thoughts... ;-)

How about "Moonbeams and Sewer Lines?" Good Job Moondance.:clap_1:

Oh Moondance...I have been waiting for you to get the news!!!! My day is off to a great start now...Happy Traveling!

Re: Moonbeams and sewers

Oh Moondance...I have been waiting for you to get the news!!!! My day is off to a great start now...Happy Traveling!

Thanks, Sueshore. I have returned from biz travel and I'm now about to commence leisure travel, proper. I am headed immediately to SoWal and can not wait to lay eyes on Jimmy Ray's carnival in my neighborhood. Jeeziz what a yahoo! When I speak to him, I'll ask him whathehell?? Good result so far, no, GREAT result so far, just waiting for the other shoe to drop... :shock:

I can't help but feel like Slim Pickens in Blazin' Saddles as, with a posse, he approached the "Raymond? J. LePetomaine Toll Bridge (10 cents)" in the middle of the desert:

Slim: "Aw man!! What'll this ****sucker think of next...???
Alright, somebody's gotta go back and get a sh_tloada dimes!"

Got any dimes??

Re: Moonbeams and sewers

Thanks, Sueshore. I have returned from biz travel and I'm now about to commence leisure travel, proper. I am headed immediately to SoWal and can not wait to lay eyes on Jimmy Ray's carnival in my neighborhood. Jeeziz what a yahoo! When I speak to him, I'll ask him whathehell?? Good result so far, no, GREAT result so far, just waiting for the other shoe to drop... :shock:

I can't help but feel like Slim Pickens in Blazin' Saddles as, with a posse, he approached the "Raymond? J. LePetomaine Toll Bridge (10 cents)" in the middle of the desert:

Slim: "Aw man!! What'll this ****sucker think of next...???
Alright, somebody's gotta go back and get a sh_tloada dimes!"

Got any dimes??

Since you are starting vacation mode, I think you should refer to the "bushwacker" link and see my recipe for a nice kick-a** drink ... Enjoy!

Re: Moonbeams and sewers

Saw it. Got it. Printed. Done. Thanks! :clap_1:

Here's a Duck Fart, to your good health! ;-)

Bump

It is past due for septic tanks near wetlands, lakes, streams, creeks, Bay and the Gulf in SoWal to be removed! Seems like a good use of BP funds.

It's hard for me to believe the local health department has let this go on for this long,surely they were aware of this.

Kurt, I could not agree more... poor water quality at Grayton and it kills me when I see all these small kids swimming in the lake and Gulf! LJ.......

I have never understood the property owner that is fortunate enough to have secured a little piece of heaven only to crap in it! Secondly, I have never understood why our civic leaders can not say no to developers and businesses that crap in it and then make money off it. This may be simple minded thinking but I think we must learn how to keep things simple- you can use it but if you abuse it you will lose it...

Nothing ever happens to fix this problem because it has been cloaked in the personal property rights argument.