Separation Church And State

Dangerous Doctrines...

www.spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/bill-hamons-dangerous-doctrines/

They also believe you must take over the government before the Lord can return. Totally opposite from what most main stream religions believe.

I think its so funny how you get all worked up over Jones attending a church outside her district, but Nipper can leave the entire country for months and not a peep from you. Where is the logic in that?

I think its so funny how you get all worked up over Jones attending a church outside her district, but Nipper can leave the entire country for months and not a peep from you. Where is the logic in that?

Nipper has a job serving in the military. People knew that when they elected her! Nipper also has more respect for the laws, the Constitution and the citizens in this County than Cecilia Jones has ever had.

This is not about where C. Jones attends Church. I could care less where she attends Church and where she attends does not make her any less a hypocrite or downright evil. She is what she is.

What I do care about is the Constitution of the United States which was clearly and convincingly written by men who believed that that "No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever."

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

What's your problem with that? Never mind. I don't need to know. Whatever YOUR problem is, get over it.

Obviously you didn't vote for Nipper and obviously you are not a fan either. I'm ok with that but I have a hard time finding fault with a woman who has served her country admirably than I do a dictator who treats employees like dirt, treats her constituents like crap and ignores the law when it suits her agenda.

If you don't understand the "logic" in that, you're part of the problem!

P.S. I also have a problem with self-appointed Apostles or Prophets, rolling around on the floor, speaking in tongue and snake handlers. Don't bother to tell me they don't deal with snakes...they are in bed with one. (There were only 12 Apostles/Prophets!)

I also have a problem preaching politics from the pulpit!

I also have a problem with people who believe that they must take over the government before the Lord can return. Totally opposite from what most main stream religions believe.

I also have a problem with teaching that modern apostles and prophets are going to become so powerful that Christians who come into their presence with sin will be struck dead.

I have a problem with teachings that God is raising up an end-times army, led by apostles and prophets — known as “Joel’s Army” or the “Manifest Sons of God” — that will overcome sin and sickness and subdue the earth with their supernatural powers...but it makes sense why C. Jones thinks she runs this county.

I have a problem with ANY apostolic-prophetic churches that don’t provide full disclosure of their teachings. Standard evangelical statements of faith don't cut it.

I have a problem with telling ANYONE that they must submit to new apostles and prophets, who have unquestioned authority and the ability to give new teachings that aren’t found in Scripture.

I have a problem with a movement that many cult researchers consider one of the most erroneous sects in the church today and I have a problem with apostolic-prophetic movements false teachings.

I have a problem with “apostles” and “prophets,” teaching that Christians will become sinless and superhuman, eventually attaining deity (the “manifest sons of God” doctrine). Doesn't C. Jones already believe that she is sinless and the superwoman of the County?

Last but certainly not least I have a problem with ANY church that teaches a "new breed" of super prophets are beginning to arrive on planet earth who would change the world forever and those who believe that they are anointed with supernatural visions from the Lord and have a prophetic gift.

Tell me what that Church has done for any of the less fortunate in Walton County. In a word...NOTHING!

P.S. I also have a problem with self-appointed Apostles or Prophets, rolling around on the floor, speaking in tongue and snake handlers. Don't bother to tell me they don't deal with snakes...they are in bed with one. (There were only 12 Apostles/Prophets!)

I also have a problem preaching politics from the pulpit!

I also have a problem with people who believe that they must take over the government before the Lord can return. Totally opposite from what most main stream religions believe.

I also have a problem with teaching that modern apostles and prophets are going to become so powerful that Christians who come into their presence with sin will be struck dead.

I have a problem with teachings that God is raising up an end-times army, led by apostles and prophets — known as “Joel’s Army” or the “Manifest Sons of God” — that will overcome sin and sickness and subdue the earth with their supernatural powers...but it makes sense why C. Jones thinks she runs this county.

I have a problem with ANY apostolic-prophetic churches that don’t provide full disclosure of their teachings. Standard evangelical statements of faith don't cut it.

I have a problem with telling ANYONE that they must submit to new apostles and prophets, who have unquestioned authority and the ability to give new teachings that aren’t found in Scripture.

I have a problem with a movement that many cult researchers consider one of the most erroneous sects in the church today and I have a problem with apostolic-prophetic movements false teachings.

I have a problem with “apostles” and “prophets,” teaching that Christians will become sinless and superhuman, eventually attaining deity (the “manifest sons of God” doctrine). Doesn't C. Jones already believe that she is sinless and the superwoman of the County?

Last but certainly not least I have a problem with ANY church that teaches a "new breed" of super prophets are beginning to arrive on planet earth who would change the world forever and those who believe that they are anointed with supernatural visions from the Lord and have a prophetic gift.

Tell me what that Church has done for any of the less fortunate in Walton County. In a word...NOTHING!

You have a good understanding of that Church and I don't think a lot of people in the area understand what it preaches.

There was a video going around several years ago with another Walton County Elected Official and her (the other official) receiving prophecy from one of the staff there. It was very odd to listen and watch...

I also have a problem with people in general who attend church because there is something in it for them personally or for anything other than spiritual reasons. C. Jones attends that Church for VOTES!

Im starting to wonder if there is anything that you DONT have a "problem with."

I voted for Nipper and thats why Im upset. Id loved to see what you would say if Jones took a leave of absence to pursue job/career. It would be WW3 on this forum.

Im starting to wonder if there is anything that you DONT have a "problem with."

I voted for Nipper and thats why Im upset. Id loved to see what you would say if Jones took a leave of absence to pursue job/career. It would be WW3 on this forum.

So did I. I'm not upset that she has a military career and knew that when she was called it would take her away from Walton County. Nothing life threatening happened while she was gone, votes were quite predictable and the BCC is still screwing its citizenry over. No problem.

As far as Jones pursuing another career? Can I help the she-devil pack? Also would wish her more success at a new endeavor because she was/is completely wretched at politics. When does she leave?

Here is what I'm going to do if she is not re-elected too! Turn your speakers up!

So exactly what is she recognizing the Church for?

I also have a problem with people in general who attend church because there is something in it for them personally or for anything other than spiritual reasons. C. Jones attends that Church for VOTES!

Absolutely Correct.

Im starting to wonder if there is anything that you DONT have a "problem with."

I voted for Nipper and thats why Im upset. Id loved to see what you would say if Jones took a leave of absence to pursue job/career. It would be WW3 on this forum.

For C. Jones to be absent would be a blessing! Amen, amen, amen.

So exactly what is she recognizing the Church for?

Ya got me on that one Bob Wells because I don't know of a damn thing that church has done for anyone outside their sect....certainly not anything for a needy family in Walton County, or a homeless vet/person or someone in crisis.

Ya got me on that one Bob Wells because I don't know of a damn thing that church has done for anyone outside their sect....certainly not anything for a needy family in Walton County, or a homeless vet/person or someone in crisis.

So you know for a fact they have not helped anyone outside of their church? Or because they may not advertise their works you don't know?

So you know for a fact they have not helped anyone outside of their church? Or because they may not advertise their works you don't know?

I'd bet money on it!

@Wouldnt You Like To Know Since the issue seems to be such a thorn in your side, I thought I'd share this with you.



MOSSY HEAD, Fla. (WJHG/WECP) - For one local county commissioner, serving her county isn't the only way she gives back.

District 3 Walton County Commissioner, Melanie Nipper just recently returned from a two-month hiatus overseas as an Army reservist.

"When I go overseas and I see other countries and we work with other countries, making a difference, the comradery of the other countries when we're trying to bring Democracy. I've been in Bosnia, Haiti, Korea, and I see I make a difference to their people and that makes you feel good about what we can do here in
America," said Nipper.

Now, after 24 years and six different deployments, including three in Iraq, Nipper said she went to keep her flying certifications current.

"So I chose to go. I chose to go as a civilian. The job that I do as a civilian is identical as the job I do in the military. I'm on a military base, I have a military ID. The military has to allow me to fly their aircraft. I have a letter of authorization from the military that says I have all the requirements. I have a clearance that allows me to fly the aircraft I do. And I don't think I'd be able to do any of that if it wasn't for my military background," Nipper added.

She added that although she was not in the county, she did not leave her commissioner duties.

"The county commissioner meetings, I viewed and streamed on a tablet while I was overseas, answered as many e-mails as I possibly could., even though there is a time difference, but that's not a problem with email. made phone calls, spoke with people when it really was important, whether getting up early or staying up late. But I stayed in touch with people," said Nipper.

Nipper said she originally joined to pursue her dream of flying helicopters but has since developed an appreciation for helping make a difference in the world.

"I'm just thankful I can make a change. I just enjoy what I do and I enjoy knowing I made a difference," Nipper said.

www.wjhg.com/content/news/Serving-our-county-and-country-441680273.html

I applaud her service and commitment.

I said she “chose to deploy” as a civilian contractor and she confirms her service in that manner above.

LD, She a private contractor and you know this. We already had this discussion in another thread. You can prop her up with the "serving her country" speech all you want but she's not in the Military anymore. Im grateful for her service but now that she signed up to serve Walton County Id really like for her to be here. I don't think thats too much to ask for. Do you?

Its funny how you say nothing life threatening happened while she was gone but yet you are on this forum every single day running the commissioners, WHO ARE HERE, names through the mud like its your job.

I thought you might find the irony in that but I guess its hard when you are too busy looking down your nose at the Commissioners.

LD, She a private contractor and you know this. We already had this discussion in another thread. You can prop her up with the "serving her country" speech all you want but she's not in the Military anymore. Im grateful for her service but now that she signed up to serve Walton County Id really like for her to be here. I don't think thats too much to ask for. Do you?

Its funny how you say nothing life threatening happened while she was gone but yet you are on this forum every single day running the commissioners, WHO ARE HERE, names through the mud like its your job.

I thought you might find the irony in that but I guess its hard when you are too busy looking down your nose at the Commissioners.

Now you're going to tell me what I know? That's arrogant! Again, she is an active Army Reservist and she is ALLOWED to have a job!!!

Again nothing life threatening happened and no lives were lost because she has a job outside Walton County.

If certain other Commissioners would stop giving people reasons to question their sanity or stupidity there wouldn't be anything to talk about would there?

P.S. It's not my job to call out County Commissioners for their stupidity its my Constitutionally protected right to do so!

I love how people say that like nobody heard of freedom of speech.

Im just pointing out that you only bash certain BCC members while give others a free pass. You've been doing it since 2016 campaign and you've never slowed down.

I love how people say that like nobody heard of freedom of speech.

Im just pointing out that you only bash certain BCC members while give others a free pass. You've been doing it since 2016 campaign and you've never slowed down.

Now you're blaming me for the 3 jerks on the BCC that I didn't vote for???

Just so ya know also, I've been just as hard on Chapman for being a rogue cop who had his law enforcement certifications fudged in order to keep them and retire with benefits from the WCSO and on Phony Tony

Admittedly I have been hardest on C. Jones because she keeps giving me solid reasons to call her out on her BS!

Vision Outreach Ministries – Vision Church
Found this today.

Vision Outreach Ministries – Vision Church
Found this today.

Watched the video and I can appreciate it. It appears sincere.

This appears to be a new group of leaders as opposed to the ones I'm familiar with.

I have no issue with those that help the people that need it. I do my part every day and don't advertise it to you.

I do have issue with those that use this to facilitate Political Agendas...