could potentially void Walton County's customary land use ordinance
This past spring, Walton County Commissioners passed a law defining the rights of South Walton beach visitors and although the ruling has been done, the battle is not over.
"Right now, I don't really know what the bill says so it could be something that could be a detriment to Walton County and our customary use," District 2 Walton County Commissioner Cecilia Jones said. "If we lose our right for the public to be on the beach that would affect us economically, very much so. We want to just be aware and be proactive in trying to lobby for the right legislation to come forth."
Wednesday, Walton County Commissioners say they will make their way over to the state capital as the topic comes up for debate at the 2018 legislative session.
"I'm all about local control," Jones added.
If the proposed bill passes, it could void Walton county's customary land use ordinance.
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63Beach Lover
"The bill would have left Walton County potentially being forced to file a lawsuit against every beachfront property owner along 26 miles of coastline, and prove its case for customary use access to their property, according to Holly Parker of the Surfrider Foundation, based in Tallahassee."
Well duh - that's what the JUDGE in Reynolds said was a REQUIREMENT to prove Customary use - it has to be on a per parcel basis!
Isn't that what its should take a county to provide public use of private property? Each owner have his/her day in court?
Unreal, simply unreal. I loath Walton County commissioners and Larry Jones. And that Dave Raushkolb - what a hypocrite - he got all his money from Bud and Alleys ON A PRIVATE BEACH in Seaside. He got all that business because people came to be on a private community beach - that's how Seaside built it's name and one of the huge attraction from Atlanta and all over the nation, it was an "exclusive community". Now he's lecturing all of us that we don't need the same privileges he benefited $$$ from. Yet - he writes articles how there should be noise control that doesn't bother him on his property. What a hypocrite and what a bunch of CROOKS.
Well duh - that's what the JUDGE in Reynolds said was a REQUIREMENT to prove Customary use - it has to be on a per parcel basis!
Isn't that what its should take a county to provide public use of private property? Each owner have his/her day in court?
Unreal, simply unreal. I loath Walton County commissioners and Larry Jones. And that Dave Raushkolb - what a hypocrite - he got all his money from Bud and Alleys ON A PRIVATE BEACH in Seaside. He got all that business because people came to be on a private community beach - that's how Seaside built it's name and one of the huge attraction from Atlanta and all over the nation, it was an "exclusive community". Now he's lecturing all of us that we don't need the same privileges he benefited $$$ from. Yet - he writes articles how there should be noise control that doesn't bother him on his property. What a hypocrite and what a bunch of CROOKS.
Beach Lover
Has anyone contacted Shawn Hannity or Lou Dobbs on this unconstitutional land grab by Walton County?? Someone should!
Beach Fanatic
Has anyone contacted Shawn Hannity or Lou Dobbs on this unconstitutional land grab by Walton County?? Someone should!Here ya go formosa64, I looked it up for you now you can make the call.
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Beach Lover
Here ya go formosa64, I looked it up for you now you can make the call.It was a rhetorical question Bob...
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Beach Fanatic
It was a rhetorical question Bob...Ok.
Beach Lover
Here ya go formosa64, I looked it up for you now you can make the call.
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No need contacting those Fox guys. I texted Comey, McCabe, Mueller, the WaPo, the NYT and the DNC that Russians were seen meeting with Cecilia and Tony in the hallway in the Annex at the break at the last BCC there. Adam Schiff is probably releasing a statement on it about now.
Beach Fanatic
No need contacting those Fox guys. I texted Comey, McCabe, Mueller, the WaPo, the NYT and the DNC that Russians were seen meeting with Cecilia and Tony in the hallway in the Annex at the break at the last BCC there. Adam Schiff is probably releasing a statement on it about now.Well there ya go.
Beach Lover
No need contacting those Fox guys. I texted Comey, McCabe, Mueller, the WaPo, the NYT and the DNC that Russians were seen meeting with Cecilia and Tony in the hallway in the Annex at the break at the last BCC there. Adam Schiff is probably releasing a statement on it about now.
No fan of anyone you mentioned - LOL. Well to be clear, I only mentioned Hannity in that he was the ONE who exposed the PCB Spring Break fiasco at a national level. It got a lot of attention and it yielded results.
Beach Fanatic
Does anyone have any facts about this "typical" gun threatening beach front owner rumor BCC Anderson and C. Jones are spreading to the news? I haven't seen any evidence anywhere this occurred like Anderson and Jones describes.
Wonder why Anderson and C. Jones do not bring up the public's behavior on the beach?
Bills would require Florida courts decide whether private beaches be open to public
Walton County Commissioner Cecilia Jones said the [customary beach] ordinance was necessary when fences and signs began dominating the beach.
“The reason it got to this point is a lady with small children sat on the beach and a homeowner went out there to tell her to move,” she said. “She refused. He went and got a gun and said, ‘You better move now.’
Tony Anderson also lobbied the FL legislator with this similar rumor about a beach front owner threatening a women and a 4 year old child, according to Anderson, as Walton BCC justification to declare custom on all Walton private beach front property.
Customary Use elements DO include ancient, reasonable, without interruption, and free from dispute that has to be proven by the Plaintiff. Customary Use elements DO NOT include fences and signs, beach owner or public behavior, Walton economics, or popularity votes.
Suggestion. Merge this thread with Customary Use Will Happen On Sowal Beaches
Wonder why Anderson and C. Jones do not bring up the public's behavior on the beach?
Bills would require Florida courts decide whether private beaches be open to public
Walton County Commissioner Cecilia Jones said the [customary beach] ordinance was necessary when fences and signs began dominating the beach.
“The reason it got to this point is a lady with small children sat on the beach and a homeowner went out there to tell her to move,” she said. “She refused. He went and got a gun and said, ‘You better move now.’
Tony Anderson also lobbied the FL legislator with this similar rumor about a beach front owner threatening a women and a 4 year old child, according to Anderson, as Walton BCC justification to declare custom on all Walton private beach front property.
Customary Use elements DO include ancient, reasonable, without interruption, and free from dispute that has to be proven by the Plaintiff. Customary Use elements DO NOT include fences and signs, beach owner or public behavior, Walton economics, or popularity votes.
Suggestion. Merge this thread with Customary Use Will Happen On Sowal Beaches
Beach Fanatic
Does anyone have any facts about this "typical" gun threatening beach front owner rumor BCC Anderson and C. Jones are spreading to the news? I haven't seen any evidence anywhere this occurred like Anderson and Jones describes.
Wonder why Anderson and C. Jones do not bring up the public's behavior on the beach?
Bills would require Florida courts decide whether private beaches be open to public
Walton County Commissioner Cecilia Jones said the [customary beach] ordinance was necessary when fences and signs began dominating the beach.
“The reason it got to this point is a lady with small children sat on the beach and a homeowner went out there to tell her to move,” she said. “She refused. He went and got a gun and said, ‘You better move now.’
Tony Anderson also lobbied the FL legislator with this similar rumor about a beach front owner threatening a women and a 4 year old child, according to Anderson, as Walton BCC justification to declare custom on all Walton private beach front property.
Customary Use elements DO include ancient, reasonable, without interruption, and free from dispute that has to be proven by the Plaintiff. Customary Use elements DO NOT include fences and signs, beach owner or public behavior, Walton economics, or popularity votes.
Suggestion. Merge this thread with Customary Use Will Happen On Sowal Beaches
I have wondered that, too. I have to believe that such an incident would have made the local papers and yet the only gun toting beach goer I could find an article about was the tourist who threatened one of our "Leave No Trace" TDC employees. I wouldn't swear to this, but I believe that I heard from the Sheriff, himself, that the beachfront owner with a gun was a rumor that took on a life of its own.
Beach Lover
I have wondered that, too. I have to believe that such an incident would have made the local papers and yet the only gun toting beach goer I could find an article about was the tourist who threatened one of our "Leave No Trace" TDC employees. I wouldn't swear to this, but I believe that I heard from the Sheriff, himself, that the beachfront owner with a gun was a rumor that took on a life of its own.Strange that this ‘incident’ is being brought up now, for the first time? I would assume it could be found in their evidence for Customary Use, since this seems to be the springboard.
Beach Crab
Strange that this ‘incident’ is being brought up now, for the first time? I would assume it could be found in their evidence for Customary Use, since this seems to be the springboard.I wonder as well where this came from. I thought the only one that used a firearm to threaten anyone was county administration.
Dr.Meade
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I wonder as well where this came from. I thought the only one that used a firearm to threaten anyone was county administration.
Dr.Meade
Actually C. Jones husband does it whenever he takes a notion...thankfully he is NOT administration.
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