I hope I am not opening Pandora's box by posting this.
Walton County Chamber... Hummmm.... how do I word this? I know many businesses have dropped their membership since Pam left because it seems the Chamber has changed. This is my observation.
Again, I am only asking opinions, not trying to offend anyone and my mind is completely open on listening.
1. Changed their entire focus away from the Small Business, (what South Walton is all about with a few exceptions), and targeted everything toward 3 large corporations - St. Joe, Sandestin & Seaside.
Does anyone else feel that way.
2. Raised prices until they are unaffordable for small businesses to participate in many of the past functions.
3. Do you get ANY referrals from the Chamber? Does anyone's product actually move from their offices?
4. Is there any traffic in and out of the Chamber's offices by tourist? It seems to me the sign blends in so much that either no one sees it to stop , or they breeze by and can't stop.
I get plenty of benefit from the TDC's offices, but not the Chamber.
Opinions please.
Thank you.
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wrobertBeach FanaticDeFuniak Springs4,132 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
When you say benefit, in what way? Does the TDC work to refer people to local businesses that may not be tourist related but certainly can and do provide services that visitors sometimes need?
When you say benefit, in what way? Does the TDC work to refer people to local businesses that may not be tourist related but certainly can and do provide services that visitors sometimes need?
Yes they do if you have your brochures in their office.
PLENTY of tourist stop by that office, go in and collect brochures.
Curtis
CurtisBeach LoverWEATHERALL FINE ART - 3730 30-A - Santa Rosa Beach199 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
The TDC website has been the most effective for us. The chamber has not produced much, if any, in the way of business. I think the chamber is probably a membership that you get out what you put in. The membership alone doesn't draw business for us. With that said, we celebrate our 1st year anniversary in April so we don't have years of experience in various organizations for comparison purposes.
Looking forward to years more. Thanks SoWal.
Looking forward to years more. Thanks SoWal.
John R
John Rneeds to get out moreConflictinator6,782 postsJoined View profileMessageneeds to get out more
the Walton Area:whack: Chamber has always seemed more like a B2B entity to me.
DuneLaker
DuneLakerBeach FanaticEastern Lake Est., SoWal, FL2,643 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I wish Walton County businesses were the focus of what once was the Walton County Chamber, but is now the Walton County Area Chamber. At least Seaside, Sandestin and major Joe properties are in Walton County. With this "The Beach" thing, etc. the focus seems to be on supporting other counties and their businesses. I would not be surprised if local companies do leave if they feel overun by outside interests. The Chamber won a national award for membership in the past. Unfortunately, perhaps in order to keep up with the numbers game, too many outside county companies were recruited.
I wish Walton County businesses were the focus of what once was the Walton County Chamber, but is now the Walton County Area Chamber. At least Seaside, Sandestin and major Joe properties are in Walton County. With this "The Beach" thing, etc. the focus seems to be on supporting other counties and their businesses. I would not be surprised if local companies do leave if they feel overun by outside interests. The Chamber won a national award for membership in the past. Unfortunately, perhaps in order to keep up with the numbers game, too many outside county companies were recruited.
They won the national award when Pam Tedesco ran it. She took it from a, basically, secret and built it into an organization bigger than the Destin Chamber. Pam directed her efforts to small businesses and we all benefited from her efforts.
B2B, yes, I need that too. My business is non-directly related to tourist, but in the end, you can pretty much relate all our businesses in this area to tourism.
I just feel like they have lost touch with what South Walton is all about. Small businesses. And they have geared not only membership benefits, but activities toward the three big businesses, St. Joe, Sandestin and Seaside.
I am discouraged to keep funding a membership to something that basically ignores my needs as a small locally owned business.
More please, I would love to hear more opinions.
DuneLaker
DuneLakerBeach FanaticEastern Lake Est., SoWal, FL2,643 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
The Board for the Chamber is different than what Pam had. Hmmmm seems to be trouble with boards here. Local, small businesses do not get the support they need and deserve. The Focus is now on Emerald Investors, big money, and out of county.
wrobert
wrobertBeach FanaticDeFuniak Springs4,132 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I just feel like they have lost touch with what South Walton is all about. Small businesses. And they have geared not only membership benefits, but activities toward the three big businesses, St. Joe, Sandestin and Seaside.
I am discouraged to keep funding a membership to something that basically ignores my needs as a small locally owned business.
More please, I would love to hear more opinions.
This is really interesting because the people in DeFuniak Springs feel the same way it seems. They have now dropped their first Friday breakfast down from monthly to just once a quarter. I remember when they were free as part of membership, then $2 to get a head count and to help offset costs. Now I think they are $7 with a reservation and $10 without. I have been to some of the luncheons in south Walton and they seem really nice. A lot more people participating.
Now they have these councils that meet. And for the life of me I can never seem to remember when they meet so I can attend. I know they have one for Freeport and one for DeFuniak. I went to one in Freeport a year or so ago, food was good, people were nice enough, but still seemed hard to engage people that I did not already know. Everyone seemed to go off into their own cliques and hang out.
Going to be interesting to see if some other organization rises up and fills in this void.
This is really interesting because the people in DeFuniak Springs feel the same way it seems. They have now dropped their first Friday breakfast down from monthly to just once a quarter
I didn't realize that, but I am glad that I am not alone with my thoughts.
The Board for the Chamber is different than what Pam had. Hmmmm seems to be trouble with boards here. Local, small businesses do not get the support they need and deserve. The Focus is now on Emerald Investors, big money, and out of county.
EXACTLY how I feel. The dues have doubled and there are less benefits for small businesses. I use to put teams in the Gold Tournament. I chose the Walton County because it was affordable for a small business to sponsor teams, rather than the MUCH more expensive Destin tournament. Now, the cost for sponsoring a team has doubled and it almost as much as the Destin one, if not a little more.
Here is a list of the Board of Directors. There is some diversity there, but maybe they are unaware of what small business are thinking?
http://www.waltoncountychamber.com/AboutTheChamber/BoardofDirectors/tabid/62/Default.aspx
I voiced my opinion a year ago and was basically hung up on. The current director had never ran an chamber when she was elected, and there is nothing wrong with that. However, she seems to be out of tune with the local "flavor" and the preservation of it.
Maybe if enough people feel the same way and will post, we can e-mail the board this thread.
More opinions please.
seagrovegirl
seagrovegirlBeach FanaticHistoric Old Point Washington3,828 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I didn't realize that, but I am glad that I am not alone with my thoughts.
EXACTLY how I feel. The dues have doubled and there are less benefits for small businesses. I use to put teams in the Gold Tournament. I chose the Walton County because it was affordable for a small business to sponsor teams, rather than the MUCH more expensive Destin tournament. Now, the cost for sponsoring a team has doubled and it almost as much as the Destin one, if not a little more.
Here is a list of the Board of Directors. There is some diversity there, but maybe they are unaware of what small business are thinking?
http://www.waltoncountychamber.com/AboutTheChamber/BoardofDirectors/tabid/62/Default.aspx
I voiced my opinion a year ago and was basically hung up on. The current director had never ran an chamber when she was elected, and there is nothing wrong with that. However, she seems to be out of tune with the local "flavor" and the preservation of it.
Maybe if enough people feel the same way and will post, we can e-mail the board this thread.
More opinions please.
Noticed a board member there that is on the TDC as well.
Bs1chiro
Bs1chiroBeach LoverPt. Washington155 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
I too have been disappointed with the Chamber. I joined when I opened my practice and actually was involved in one of the "councils" until the time of meeting was in the middle of my day. I have gone to the "business after hours" in an attempt to network but I found it to be very cliquey...is that a word??!! Tough to mingle and network when everyone is in their own group. Anyway I think a local "Sowal Networking Group" may better benefit the local small business and those of us that depend on and appreciate word of mouth and local referrals. It could be a monthly meeting and rotate to be in different local business each month....an exchange of business cards, general introductions and brief descriptions of each persons business.
Anyone interested and/or have similar ideas???? Let me know!!!!
Anyone interested and/or have similar ideas???? Let me know!!!!
swantree
swantreeBeach FanaticSRB553 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
we used to have one that was started at/around Seaside and ended up in Destin...called PFS....Partnering for Success. It was a Christian based program....you know Prayers at first! it desolved over time due to lack of interest. I would be interested in starting another....I have permission to use the Methodist church for a meeting hall. same type of program...i have other people interested if you want to PM me on it.
Smiling JOe
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Very few people ever enter the Chamber's doors. It is true that you get out of it what you put into it. I know of other Chamber's which do draw many visitors because they have much to offer. Our Chamber is pretty lame, and I cannot name one benefit they have given to my company.
I too have been disappointed with the Chamber. I joined when I opened my practice and actually was involved in one of the "councils" until the time of meeting was in the middle of my day. I have gone to the "business after hours" in an attempt to network but I found it to be very cliquey...is that a word??!! Tough to mingle and network when everyone is in their own group. Anyway I think a local "Sowal Networking Group" may better benefit the local small business and those of us that depend on and appreciate word of mouth and local referrals. It could be a monthly meeting and rotate to be in different local business each month....an exchange of business cards, general introductions and brief descriptions of each persons business.
Anyone interested and/or have similar ideas???? Let me know!!!!
I am interested. I attended a network group in Destin a few times, but was not impressed. Mainly because I knew of new businesses before they did.
But, I can see a benefit in networking 30-A. I can offer something to a group, however, I think religion should be kept separate. I feel religion is a very private thing.
swantree
swantreeBeach FanaticSRB553 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I am interested. I attended a network group in Destin a few times, but was not impressed. Mainly because I knew of new businesses before they did.i agree....very private.....this group will form soon, and all comers will be welcome....no religious pressure...not a forum for bible thumping...it was just some of the people in the church were feeling the same issue that is on this thread....so i said..we have a building! a need! form a group and see what comes of it....!
But, I can see a benefit in networking 30-A. I can offer something to a group, however, I think religion should be kept separate. I feel religion is a very private thing.
DuneLaker
DuneLakerBeach FanaticEastern Lake Est., SoWal, FL2,643 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
There is a need for a South Walton business group that will promote business here. With the new airport in Bay County, South Walton is really going to benefit. Tourists will land and will find our beaches as close as those in Panama City. Just a short drive down four-lane 79 to four lane 98 and then they are on Scenic 30A. Workers and new businesses will want to locate in Walton because of our close proximity and beautiful environment. They will not make the further and busy drive to the cities and county to the West.
So who wants to lead the group. i am not a leader, but can contribute information.
DuneLaker
DuneLakerBeach FanaticEastern Lake Est., SoWal, FL2,643 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
There are a number of great leaders in South Walton. Maybe a concensus will happen as this idea takes shape.
Indigo JillIndigo JillBeach FanaticPoint Washington321 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
I was a previous member of the chamber - for two separate businesses - and I agree with others feelings on it here - that you got out of it what you put into it and it was more B2B focused (i.e. all the after-hours events, meet and greets, blah blah blah).
I will say, though, the people who do put effort into being active do get a lot of exposure.
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I will say, though, the people who do put effort into being active do get a lot of exposure.
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