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Is sowal ready for it's own Wal-Mart

wrobert avatar
wrobertBeach Fanatic
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Just curious on the feelings. If so, what about location?

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Bob avatar
BobSoWal Insider
#27
change is inevitable, unless someone can convince the state to do pt washington state forest version 2.0
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#28
With the State offering busniesses up to 40% back in labor savings for all businesses created in Freeport, I would think that an employee-heavy WalMart would choose to be located in Freeport, rather than South Walton, because it would still draw all of the South Walton Walmart shoppers, and would catch the tourists driving to the beach. If you see a new Walmart proposed in the area, look for it coming to Freeport. This financial labor incentive has the potential to pull many businesses to Freeport over the next twenty years, especially with new PCB airport being so close.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#29
Interesting point. I think in general though, unless Wal-Mart (or similar) already owns property along 98 and is waiting for the right time to develop it, it may not be economically feasible. As you get closer to the beach, the cost to rent or lease said property rises exponentially. For a big box store with only moderate profit margins, the model might not work. This is the economic reality that keeps many such places out of resort areas. It's just too expensive to operate there.
I hear you, but I've seen the way gov't works, and I disagree. When gov't realizes the potential tax revenues from a business like Walmart, a store which pulls in buyers in large numbers, they often offer HUGE tax incentives to lure the business to the otherwise expensive area. Gov't wants money, and to stay in office, politicians do whatever they can to keep the taxes from increasing, and this is one way to do it. So, it is vital that you know who you are putting into office when you vote, locally.
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#30
that's the problem. all walmart sees is a potential market with big sales numbers in destin. the only way to really stop is is to stop shopping there. a colleague did a documentary about it and this is his website. WakeUpWalMart.com - Join the fight to change Wal-Mart and change America
Sounds easy enough, but when prescriptions at Walmart cost only $4, groceries are half price compared to Publix, and people are having trouble paying their rent and mortgage, why wouldn't people shop at Walmart?
SHELLY avatar
SHELLYSoWal Insider
#31
Wal-mart prices aren't really that low - in the interests of fairness I checked their prices on many of my "staple" groceries. To my surprise (and delight) there wasn't much savings on many items. Smart shopping at Publix or Winn Dixie will save you more $.

Publix, Winn Dixie and Walgreens, etc., do have some excellent loss-leader prices, but Walmart fought back using their "price matching" strategy, which in turn caused these stores to do Buy-one-get-one sales or 10 for $10 which Walmart don't honor. So in a way, having an area Walmart helps drive prices down further. And when a new Walmart comes into an area, I've seen them hang the competitior's ad by the item and then show a lower price (i.e., the ad for advocados on sale at Publix for $0.75 cut out and placed on the advocado bin at Walmart with a price of $0.70.). Walmart was developed on a business strategy that fit nicely into corporate America's desire to keep worker's wages low.

I think the lure of Walmart is not just the lower prices...where can a time-strapped working single mother shop at 4am and pick up a jar of peanut butter; a blonde wig; and a set of radial tires all in one stop?

As long as the American people cling the the ideal of being Debt Slaves, Walmart will prevail.


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CincyBeachGirl avatar
CincyBeachGirlBeach Lover
#32
Okay you Wal-Mart Lovers, Here's a little game for you to play........ also a little dose of reality for the SOWAL area, should a Wal-Mart ever come..... Hope it doesn't offend....
TooFarTampa avatar
TooFarTampaSoWal Insider
#33
I hear you, but I've seen the way gov't works, and I disagree. When gov't realizes the potential tax revenues from a business like Walmart, a store which pulls in buyers in large numbers, they often offer HUGE tax incentives to lure the business to the otherwise expensive area. Gov't wants money, and to stay in office, politicians do whatever they can to keep the taxes from increasing, and this is one way to do it. So, it is vital that you know who you are putting into office when you vote, locally.

Excellent points SJ. Had forgotten about this aspect.
steyouBeach Fanatic
#34
Okay you Wal-Mart Lovers, Here's a little game for you to play........ also a little dose of reality for the SOWAL area, should a Wal-Mart ever come..... Hope it doesn't offend....

You have most likely offended about 95% of the people here. Lots of closet Walmart shoppers on here or at least their families. Get out of your box. Your attepmt at being a comedian is degrading to alot of people. Take a hike.
Bobby J avatar
Bobby JBeach Fanatic
#35
The last time I was in a fight was Walmart in Tallahassee! Pretty funny story actually. It was in the nursery area. Some guy thought I was supposed to be in bait and tackle area and was a little offended with me. He pushed me aside and as soon as his hand touched my shirt, I hit him in the nose as hard as I could. I actually had to hit him in the nose three times to get him off me. Anyways, I got out of there and left him laying on the floor! I was afraid for my life at this point and not really sure what came over me. Needless to say, I try to avoid Walmart.:blink:

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rdelong43065 avatar
rdelong43065Beach Fanatic
#36
So, is there a Walmart already planned or is this all just speculation?
Susan HornBeach Fanatic
#38
In the realm of interesting but probably useless information....a year or two ago, I heard that the WalMart at Panama City Beach is the wrold's largest retailer of Bud Light.

I confess to shopping at WalMart sometimes too -- Most of the time it is for stuff I cannot find anywhere else, because I guess WalMarts put the smaller stores out of business that used to carry such things? But when I come out of WalMart, I always feel strange and ungrounded -- too many flourescent lights? Or perhaps just that it is so huge, almost frightening in its scale?

I heard a very interesting story on NPR a few years ago. I think it was the National Press Club's weekly show, and their guest speaker was head of the National Trust for Historic Preservation. He was telling the story of how WalMart finally managed to get a store into some small town in Vermont. The town consistently refused to allow WalMart to put in one of their typical huge stores, and they finally reached a compromise where the store went into an existing downtown building, with MUCH smaller square footage than the usual megastores.

To almost everyone's delight and surprise, this small store turned out to be WalMart's largest grossing store per square foot. Sounds a little similar towhat little I know about the Publix in WaterColor. Much smaller than their typical store, but obviously they are selling groceries like mad and have trouble keeping the shelves stocked all through summer and on peak holidays at other times of year. Maybe smaller is better, when it's well located? That's what all the research tells us about schools, too -- small neighborhood schools perform better than megaschools. I think I see a pattern here .
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#39
Susan Horn, not only is the PCB Walmart the leading seller of beer in North America, but the Destin Walmart is reportedly the leading seller of wine in North America. So much for thoughts that Walmart cannot succeed in a tourist area.
teamcBeach Lover
#40
how can someone support a walmart or any store down the road, but then suggest you don't want it in your neighborhood?
that's seriously hypocritical. walmart wouldn't come here if they didn't have your business.
and walmart is VERY different from other big box stores like target and whole foods and publix. they do not provide good jobs to the community. i recently met a woman who worked at walmart shopping at target, because she said even with her discount, the products at target were safer for her baby. you either support walmart or you don't. if you shop there, you patronize the store and their development here. plain and simple.

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