Transportation guru hopes to bring trolley service to 30A | 30a, service, trolley - Local News - WaltonSun.com
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35Beach Lover
The guru will probably end up running 2 months a year effectivly. Will take funding to hit regular schedules because it will be empty or near empty most of the time. And then let's mix some potential drunk drivers in with some families and see how that goes. You tourist catering thinkers (friends) have not thought this through. This area is not big enough yet! Sorry to burst your bubble.
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"another transportation guru"
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"another transportation guru"
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The guru will probably end up running 2 months a year effectivly. Will take funding to hit regular schedules because it will be empty or near empty most of the time. And then let's mix some potential drunk drivers in with some families and see how that goes. You tourist catering thinkers (friends) have not thought this through. This area is not big enough yet! Sorry to burst your bubble.
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"another transportation guru"
I have always assumed that if a trolley service were to succeed in SoWal that it would need to be part ad supported and part government subsidized, like many other areas with public transportation. I have heard that mentioned lately. Maybe it would be a good use of bed tax.
I wouldn't be surprised to also see airport shuttles to and from WaterColor, Sandestin and other resorts. And have wondered when Sandestin would start a trolley tour of 30A for their guests. Or a shuttle to some State parks.
Beach Fanatic
That's fantastic news!
Beach Lover
Kurt, why does sandestin want to take people off their full service facility and let them spend dollars with others?
Beach Fanatic
I'd like to see it be electric!!! 
Beach Fanatic
I have always assumed that if a trolley service were to succeed in SoWal that it would need to be part ad supported and part government subsidized, like many other areas with public transportation. I have heard that mentioned lately. Maybe it would be a good use of bed tax.
In the typical well-used mass transit system, only about 20% of the operating revenue comes from fares, with the rest largely coming from grants and general tax revenue. Seems like the TDC would have to be kicking money in for it to work.
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I'd like to see it be electric!!!
Chattanooga's downtown bus service is all electric. It can be done...
Beach Lover
Beachmouse, I hope we finish what we started before we jump into an expensive endevor like a municiple shuttle system.(hard surface roads in all of sowal, bike paths, or as older citys call them; sidewalks, in all highly populated residential areas). The county has put projects like these on hold due to budget constraints. Hard surface roads are a fire protection issue if nothing else.
I can understand the guru wanting to get his foot in the door for the future but this paticular door is going to slam real hard at this time.
I can understand the guru wanting to get his foot in the door for the future but this paticular door is going to slam real hard at this time.
Beach Fanatic
The guru will probably end up running 2 months a year effectivly. Will take funding to hit regular schedules because it will be empty or near empty most of the time. And then let's mix some potential drunk drivers in with some families and see how that goes. You tourist catering thinkers (friends) have not thought this through. This area is not big enough yet! Sorry to burst your bubble.
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"another transportation guru"
So what you're saying is, you're just upset that the story wasn't about you.
Beach Lover
Fact: Chat. Tenn. Has a pop of about 200,000 with 21% living at a poverty level. Sounds like a place public trans should go well if paid by gov.
Beach Lover
Just cur.
How did you get that out of anything I wrote?
How did you get that out of anything I wrote?
Beach Lover
Guru is not my competitor. We move in different circles. I was involved in Aspen col attempt by the largest transportation comp in town in the early 80s to start a private shuttle. It was a miserable failure. I watched st Louis start their program. They ende up paying first time passengers. It's gurus money, not mine!
Beach Fanatic
Guru is not my competitor. We move in different circles. I was involved in Aspen col attempt by the largest transportation comp in town in the early 80s to start a private shuttle. It was a miserable failure. I watched st Louis start their program. They ende up paying first time passengers. It's gurus money, not mine![/QUOTE]
Sorry, your first post sounded a little whiney.
My thoughts exactly. If the guy wants to run a trolley I'm all for it. I do think that it will work at least for a couple of months out of the year.
Beach Lover
Just cur, I'm just curious, would open a buisness here that survival depended on a couple of months a year? My buisness will not fail due to a shuttle. In fact it will prosper. My objection would be for my tax money assisting it at this time.
Beach Fanatic
I am all for a PRIVATELY run shuttle.. but since I have been (and still am) living on a dirt road in SOWAL for over 20 years I think that we need to address THAT problem before they start spending MY tax dollars on a shuttle that will only run along 30A.
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Beach Lover
Amen!
Beach Fanatic
Just cur, I'm just curious, would open a buisness here that survival depended on a couple of months a year? My buisness will not fail due to a shuttle. In fact it will prosper. My objection would be for my tax money assisting it at this time.
The guy has a successful business already. This would just be another option he offers. If he wants to run two months a year, great. I also agree that if they put public funds towards this that we need to make sure we are ready for it and can support it, but I did not see where they said that in the article. This is a private business endeavor at this point, at least based on this article. Has the county said they are funding this?
Beach Fanatic
I don't agree with public funds at all. A user fee and advertisment sales would do nicely. Maybe "stops" sponsored by interested business would also bring revenue. I would hope the vehicle wouldn't be an eyesore like that drunk bus thing parked in SGB too. I would probably use the trolley though, parking can be a pain and I think it would be neat.
Just keep my "public funds" out of it and wait for my tokens.
Just keep my "public funds" out of it and wait for my tokens.
Beach Lover
Just curious, the article said nothing about public funding but said "friends of 30a" ( the Santa rosa beach and country club) are supporting him. "the friends" are the ones who just paid for the trial shuttle day a few weeks ago. At that time there was discussion about public money.
We might be getting back doored!
We might be getting back doored!
Beach Lover
Good luck guru! Nothing personal.
This area does not have the population to support a regular shuttle at this time.
With or without gov funds.
This area does not have the population to support a regular shuttle at this time.
With or without gov funds.
Beach Fanatic
Chattanooga's downtown bus service is all electric. It can be done...
After reading more about it I think that a trolley would be too large to be electric after all. And I don't think anyone wants to put an electric line down 30A.
BUT clean-burning, environmentally friendly bio-diesel would be good. Wouldn't stink up the place
Here's one in Ft Lauderdale run on the bio-diesel.
Sun Trolley - Fort Lauderdale's Community Bus Service
Here's one run on propane
Old Town Trolley Tours? of Washington DC - Environment
I think it is a great idea myself. Wish it would run to Publix
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Beach Fanatic
After reading more about it I think that a trolley would be too large to be electric after all. And I don't think anyone wants to put an electric line down 30A.
BUT clean-burning, environmentally friendly bio-diesel would be good. Wouldn't stink up the place
Here's one in Ft Lauderdale run on the bio-diesel.
Sun Trolley - Fort Lauderdale's Community Bus Service
Here's one run on propane
Old Town Trolley Tours? of Washington DC - Environment
I think it is a great idea myself. Wish it would run to Publix
G
Would it smell like french fries?
Beach Fanatic
I thought all of this had been before the BCC in a previous life to no avail.
Beach Fanatic
I love riding the trolley in New Orleans, but we're not NOLA so we have no need for an electric trolley. That definately would not work on 30A even if there was funding to do it! But it is cool in the cities that do run electric ones.
I personally would love to see a Trolley on 30A. I am hoping that John Finch of SunShine Shuttle and Transportation can make this work for our area. A little belief in something is what we need to work some magic for our community. Maybe if we would think positive about this it might actually take off....I'm wishing him the best of luck. Let's all take a ride on the trolley. Sounds fun!
I personally would love to see a Trolley on 30A. I am hoping that John Finch of SunShine Shuttle and Transportation can make this work for our area. A little belief in something is what we need to work some magic for our community. Maybe if we would think positive about this it might actually take off....I'm wishing him the best of luck. Let's all take a ride on the trolley. Sounds fun!
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After reading more about it I think that a trolley would be too large to be electric after all. And I don't think anyone wants to put an electric line down 30A.
No need for ab electric line. They are are battery powered. Here's a picture of one of Chattanooga's buses. I'm sure they can be made to look like a trolley...
]http://www.carta-bus.org/images_site/DSCF0002.jpg
Would it smell like french fries?
The Mrs and I pulled up to a light one day on the motorcycle. Mrs SC asked if I smelled fries. I did.
Smelled exactly like McDonalds fries despite not being near a fast food joint. At the next light a bio diesel Mercedes pulled up next to us. It had been behind us at the other light!Checking your forum account
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