I was going to just peg a couple of you that I know, but I decided to open it up to everyone...
We're looking at moving that way this fall from the west end of 30A & much of our motivation is reducing our "footprint" car/van-wise. I am so tired of driving up and down the road with the kids, plus I am conscious of the neg effects on the environment & my wallet (via gas $$$).
We really want to live in Pt Wash but the ONLY drawback is the idea of crossing 98 at either intersection on a bicycle.... it scares the crap outta me. So my question is:
Who dares cross 98 on a bike? I know 1 person on here who does, but I'd like to find out about others who use their bikes as a major form of transportation.
For those that ride bikes a lot but don't dare cross 98, what do you do? Do you drive your vehicle and then hop on your bike when you get to 30A or the vicinity?
We've got a few months to make our decision, but staying on this end is not part of that, so we need to get some pointers on this whole cycling & safety issue.
In the back of my head, I picture an underpass of some sort that would allow cyclists & pedestrians a safe way across 98.....:roll:
Muchas gracias!
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Smiling JOeSmiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertTotal tangent -- When I was walking the AT in Maine, I ran into another hiker who looked familiar. Turns out he was a former classmate's (ten years prior) boyfriend, who used to live on Cloverhurst. Talk about a small world.
greenroomsurfergreenroomsurferBeach FanaticWhere Free Speech Is Allowed1,824 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
greenroomsurferBeach FanaticWhere Free Speech Is Allowed1,824 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanaticbuenos noches chica! veo en la manyana si?
So... how much does this thing cost when it's all said and done? I can't seem to figure out what all you have to have to get the bike and carry two kids. I still don't think I could hold the bike up with both of them on it, but it's worth researching.
My back seat folds flat which is cool since I can't take it out because we have people ride with us so often (my young siblings, etc...). There's no way I can lift a trailer in there though! :funn:Which begs the question... how come we don't have a path going down 393?
I wish there were paths that connected north of 98 to south of it.
Depends on what type of bike you add it to. Ask Jen, John R, Soap Peddler or Arix. Those are the ones that I know have one right now. Soon, OM & crew will be scooting around on one....
buenos noches chica! veo en la manyana si?
Como siempre!
Smiling JOeSmiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expertckhagen, it is probably only a matter of time before you get a multi-use path down 393. The ones on 395, 283, and Thompson road were all constructed within the last two years. Now, with the new 30A "Scenic" designation, which also includes the feeder roads, new Federal funding will be coming available for improvements such as sidewalks, multi-use paths, etc.
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ckhagenBeach Fanatic541 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticYeah, this would all be a non-issue for me if there were a path coming down 393 (where there's not even a lane!... can't ride in the ditch).
eta: SJ... I hope you're right! Do the other ones come down the roads north of 98 as well, or just south of 98 to 30A?
eta: SJ... I hope you're right! Do the other ones come down the roads north of 98 as well, or just south of 98 to 30A?
Yeah, this would all be a non-issue for me if there were a path coming down 393 (where there's not even a lane!... can't ride in the ditch).
eta: SJ... I hope you're right! Do the other ones come down the roads north of 98 as well, or just south of 98 to 30A?
395 doesn't. I'd use Bay Drive & cross there.
CK, I can see you flying like a bat outta hail down the road with those 2 little guys on the back!😀
Smiling JOeSmiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertCurrently, the roads to the north don't have the multi-use paths connecting. However, Bay Drive (aka - 283N) does have a 2ft wide bike lane through the curve and a wider road for the south bound bike traffic.
JdargJdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
JdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertI have never had to wait for the light at 283 (Bay Dr.) and 98 (maybe I am heavy enough for the pad!😀)
Actually, there is always a car on every light change that will trip the light for you.
It's not a big deal- I wait, I look, I go. I was a bit nervous the first time, but now it is no big deal. The cars blowing by me doing 60 on Bay Dr. scare me more- that bike path loks wide, but it isn't really!
Organicmama, my only caution to those with kids is that it is hard to get going with kids on the back of the bike and I don't know if you would have enough time to get across. Also, you might want to check the distance- it is really tough hauling one kid on the back of a bike (Bdarg is the hauler when Kate is with us, and using a tandem so she can "help"), so I can't imagine getting 2 kids down to 30-A, ride around, then get back "up" to the neighborhood. She gets tired pedaling on the tandem, so I am pretty certain we are a year or two away from even thinking that she could pedal down and back by herself.
Actually, there is always a car on every light change that will trip the light for you.
It's not a big deal- I wait, I look, I go. I was a bit nervous the first time, but now it is no big deal. The cars blowing by me doing 60 on Bay Dr. scare me more- that bike path loks wide, but it isn't really!
Organicmama, my only caution to those with kids is that it is hard to get going with kids on the back of the bike and I don't know if you would have enough time to get across. Also, you might want to check the distance- it is really tough hauling one kid on the back of a bike (Bdarg is the hauler when Kate is with us, and using a tandem so she can "help"), so I can't imagine getting 2 kids down to 30-A, ride around, then get back "up" to the neighborhood. She gets tired pedaling on the tandem, so I am pretty certain we are a year or two away from even thinking that she could pedal down and back by herself.
I have never had to wait for the light at 283 (Bay Dr.) and 98 (maybe I am heavy enough for the pad!😀)
Actually, there is always a car on every light change that will trip the light for you.
It's not a big deal- I wait, I look, I go. I was a bit nervous the first time, but now it is no big deal. The cars blowing by me doing 60 on Bay Dr. scare me more- that bike path loks wide, but it isn't really!
Organicmama, my only caution to those with kids is that it is hard to get going with kids on the back of the bike and I don't know if you would have enough time to get across. Also, you might want to check the distance- it is really tough hauling one kid on the back of a bike (Bdarg is the hauler when Kate is with us, and using a tandem so she can "help"), so I can't imagine getting 2 kids down to 30-A, ride around, then get back "up" to the neighborhood. She gets tired pedaling on the tandem, so I am pretty certain we are a year or two away from even thinking that she could pedal down and back by herself.
You are not any heavier than I am! 😀:floor:But the question of timimg, etc. across the intersection, etc. comes to mind.
Mainly, it will be me & little guy because I'm going to be doing most of my trips while they are in school. For other trips with the girlies, Mr. OM will be forced to have his own Xtracycle. Actually, he wants one & his will have the thingy where you can put a bike on it (for the ones that get tired).
I am actually looking forward to it. I laughed at the gas prices yesterday, but I've been expecting it for most of my adult life, knowing that Europe has been in this position forever regarding prices. So, I am looking forward to the idea of learning the ups & downs, being exhausted as hail & keeping going.
peapod1980peapod1980percyUp the hill from the Gateway Arch4,591 postsJoined View profileMessagepercy
peapod1980percyUp the hill from the Gateway Arch4,591 postsJoined View profileMessagepercyI've seen your daughter, the Owl's Head Rover & the silver Porsche in that area....:shock:John R, is that thing tuned up and ready to roll? ;-)
I knew JDarg did & have grilled John R about his Xtracycle.
GRS, how often do you bike across? Regularly or just every once in a while?
BTW, Soap Peddler, I saw you on your Xtracycle last week heading into Sandestin and I was so excited!:clap:
JdargJdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
JdargSoWal Expert18,040 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertJohn R, is that thing tuned up and ready to roll? ;-)
Are you gonna tootle around with me?:wave:
peapod1980peapod1980percyUp the hill from the Gateway Arch4,591 postsJoined View profileMessagepercy
peapod1980percyUp the hill from the Gateway Arch4,591 postsJoined View profileMessagepercyAre you gonna tootle around with me?:wave:You know it! Counting on it. I have my dates set, neighbor.
I drove through Pt Wash after dropping #1 off at school. Bay Dr.'s issue is more that the auto lane is tiny & the SUVs tend to drive in the bike lane!!!:blink: 395 & Bay have so much less traffic than 393, so CK, that would be a big issue for me on your side of town. Not that there's not a lot of traffic at the other 2, it's just.... different, does not seem as heavily congested, at least at 8:15am.
I did see bikes headed down Bay without trouble, though.
SJ pointed out about Athens earlier. I used to want to bike in Athens, but the buses & small lanes on streets like Lumpkin scared me to death. 393 reminded me of that today.
I did see bikes headed down Bay without trouble, though.
SJ pointed out about Athens earlier. I used to want to bike in Athens, but the buses & small lanes on streets like Lumpkin scared me to death. 393 reminded me of that today.
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