30A Skunkape
30A SkunkapeSkunkyBackatown Seagrove10,329 postsJoined View profileMessageSkunky
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Please use this thread to share your opinions regarding the virtues of any college team/players/coaches/mascots/cheerleaders/fans/stadium as you feel appropriate. Keep the picking thread clean!:wave:
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1,019Everytime
EverytimeBeach FanaticShelby County, Alabama439 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Is it for real, or is it coming from a frustrated Alabama fan or somewhere else?
I am hearing from AUB sources that it is coming from somewhere else; I haven't heard the allegation of it coming from UA sources, but a writer from one of the AU networks claims sources from the Dan Mullen/MSU camp and I have heard others pointing at Urban Meyer/UF.
Beach Runner
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I am hearing from AUB sources that it is coming from somewhere else; I haven't heard the allegation of it coming from UA sources, but a writer from one of the AU networks claims sources from the Dan Mullen/MSU camp and I have heard others pointing at Urban Meyer/UF.Urban Meyer appears to be an ethical person who wouldn't do such a thing and isn't the type who would risk his career for violating FERPA. Besides, what's the point because with 3 losses, UF is not in the mix for a national championship, even if the Gators beat South Carolina and go to the SEC Championship. However, it could very well be that someone in the UF athletic program might have a grudge against Auburn and revealed the violations of the UF honor code. As a professor, I have to sign an attendance voucher every week for each athlete, and every two weeks for each athlete I have to sign a form in which I state the current average and can make comments (such as revealing that I have turned in the student for an honor code violation, currently the case for three athletes in one of my classes). The athletes are required to submit these to the athletic department. It's possible that multiple people on the athletic department staff see these forms. Also, everyone on the UF Student Conduct Committee and many people in the Dean of Student's office see honor code violations. I'm not saying that any of these people violated FERPA, but it isn't impossible.
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Arkiehawg
ArkiehawgBeach FanaticSoWal1,880 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Sources: Cam and Cecil Newton talked of pay-to-play plan with recruiters - ESPN@@AMEPARAM@@http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5786486@@AMEPARAM@@5786486
Need more popcorn......and possibly the Fire Dept....lot's of smoke showing....:popcorn:
Need more popcorn......and possibly the Fire Dept....lot's of smoke showing....:popcorn:
More negative press on Cam Newton. Report: Cam Newton left Florida after charges of academic cheating - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com
Is it for real, or is it coming from a frustrated Alabama fan or somewhere else? :idontno: Listened to Sirius 122 this afternoon. Lots of opinions.
What I know from being a professor is that, due to FERPA, this info is very confidential. At UF and at other schools with which I'm familiar, honor code infractions are handled by a student committee with at least one faculty representative as a member and under the umbrella of the Dean of Students.
Also athletes sign away their rights of academic privacy to the Athletic Department, even in colleges/universities that don't offer athletic scholarships, like Div. III schools. So there are a lot of people along the way that have access to the info -- the professor, students on the UF Student Conduct Committee, the Athletic Department, the Dean of Students, etc.
Who knows where it leaked if it is true. It is also a matter of public record that Newton had 13 traffic violations in 14 months. In the opinion of many people, all of these various reports show a character flaw in Newton. As many sports network talking-heads have said, USA Today wouldn't print this info if they weren't certain that the cheating accusations are true.
Adds to Florida leaked conspiracy: Cam can't play in SEC championship game (a possible outcome), increasing odds Gators win and salvage 2010 season.
Detracts from Florida leaked conspiracy: As I understand it, Cam was being called out for his third cheating incident. It would not reflect well on UF if the university looked the other way on two prior episodes of someone blatantly commiting academic fraud.
By the way, BR, could all the privacy rules be circumvented if a student went public with the allegation? ie, it is alleged Newton stole someone's paper, erased the name and inserted his own in the space and handed it in. Couldn't that student freely go public with that fact?
Matt J
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This is better than Law & Order.
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
Skunky, if we?re talking about a case as straightforward as what you are referring to and the student who wrote the paper reports it, then I don?t see any legal repercussions at all.
The only way that I see a problem for the person who might have spoken out about Newton putting his name on their paper would be if the allegation was found to be false and the paper was not actually stolen, but purchased; if they were directly or indirectly associated with the athletic program of either school or related to someone associated with the collegiate athletic program; or, the allegation was totally fabricated.
FERPA governs the actions of the institution ? not the actions of students, UNLESS they are working in the capacity as employee (work student, graduate assistant, residence assistance).
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, so no one should interpret this as legal advice.
The only way that I see a problem for the person who might have spoken out about Newton putting his name on their paper would be if the allegation was found to be false and the paper was not actually stolen, but purchased; if they were directly or indirectly associated with the athletic program of either school or related to someone associated with the collegiate athletic program; or, the allegation was totally fabricated.
FERPA governs the actions of the institution ? not the actions of students, UNLESS they are working in the capacity as employee (work student, graduate assistant, residence assistance).
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, so no one should interpret this as legal advice.
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Kurt
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Arkiehawg
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Arkiehawg
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Need more popcorn......
Kenny Rogers: Cecil Newton put price tag on Cam Newton for Mississippi State - ESPN
Kenny Rogers: Cecil Newton put price tag on Cam Newton for Mississippi State - ESPN
BeachSiO2
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic3,294 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Are the Newton's so wealthy that they could hide 200k. Where's the proof? No money trail, no recordings, no paperwork. Reggie Bush's situation was different in that the family "showed" that they had come into money. I haven't heard anything about this in these reports. It seems like a lot of allegations with no proof. If there's proof, where is it? This has been underway for months.
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
Are the Newton's so wealthy that they could hide 200k. Where's the proof? No money trail, no recordings, no paperwork. Reggie Bush's situation was different in that the family "showed" that they had come into money. I haven't heard anything about this in these reports. It seems like a lot of allegations with no proof. If there's proof, where is it? This has been underway for months.Allegedly the money was given to the deacons of the shabby church in Newnan, GA at which Cam's father is the preacher. Said shabbiness I have seen due to taking circuitous routes to avoid traffic while visiting Mom. If the deacons made contributions to the church, it appears very fishy to me because of the apparent socioeconomic level of the membership, based on the appearance of the church.
BeachSiO2
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic3,294 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Well then some type of proof should be forthcoming soon. Tax records, bank statements, etc
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
Well then some type of proof should be forthcoming soon. Tax records, bank statements, etcI agree. I like Auburn. It would be a tragedy if all of this makes Auburn forfeit their entire season. The NCAA needs to act ASAP. Also if the allegations are untrue, it would be very sad if there is no closure and it costs Newton a Heisman.
That being said, it seems as if there are so many questionable actions by Newton that it points to a fundamental flaw in his character.
Kurt
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Give me $200,000 and I guarantee no one would ever know it. Or $200,000,000.
Matt J
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FSU used to just deliver cash, or so I've heard. :ninja:
BeachSiO2
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic3,294 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Give me $200,000 and I guarantee no one would ever know it. Or $200,000,000.
I know but your a Florida fan who is used to those types of payoffs ;-)
bamabeachbum
bamabeachbumBeach FanaticDecatur,Alabama427 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Are the Newton's so wealthy that they could hide 200k. Where's the proof? No money trail, no recordings, no paperwork. Reggie Bush's situation was different in that the family "showed" that they had come into money. I haven't heard anything about this in these reports. It seems like a lot of allegations with no proof. If there's proof, where is it? This has been underway for months.
Nothing that has come out so far is new to Auburn, or the SEC, not saying something want. Just have to let this thing play out. War Eagle.
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Arkiehawg
ArkiehawgBeach FanaticSoWal1,880 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
And on the 8th day........
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
Lady D, I know you're happy about the TN win.
I was at the GT game. Left after the Budweiser song. GT looked bad.
GA is looking great so far against AU. Surprises me.
I was at the GT game. Left after the Budweiser song. GT looked bad.
GA is looking great so far against AU. Surprises me.
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