keithj621Beach ComberLive Music
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Please join local bands in a walk from Grayton Corners to Salty Dog Saloon to save The Music in South Walton. The walk will be held on Sunday, October 12th at 4:00 pm.

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Jdarg avatar
JdargSoWal Expert
#2
Why does the music need saving? Where is it going?
Old Salty DogBeach Comber
#3
Save The Music
Oct. 12th @ 4PM
Grayton Corners​

Join Hubba Hubba, Dread Clampitt, The WaCo Ramblers, Moseley Brown Band, The Mossy Head Boyz, Old-Bull Young Bull, Coconut Radio, The Steenos, Sweater Puppets, Green Hit, Chronic Jester, Hellalujah, Spindletree, and other local musicians in a peaceful protest for our right to play music, and support our lives & families. We will walk from Pandora's parking lot to Salty Dog Saloon along the bike path of 30-A. Bring your protest signs and instruments and join
"THE LOST WAGES MARCHING BAND"
Although this may not solve the problem, it will make people aware that we are tired of being shut out of our jobs & places of entertainment.​
Danny Burns avatar
Danny BurnsBeach Fanatic
#4
Why and how are these bands being shut out of jobs and places of entertainment? Is it because the clubs only want copy songs instead of original material? We all know why this is being done, but maybe there should be certain nights of the week/month set aside to specifically promote original songs. I would be willing to help with this kind of effort if this is the case. My wife and I have 30+ years of music business experience in Los Angeles and Nashville that might help. Maybe you just need some fresh ideas to serve your cause? I am full of it...them...ideas! You need to make a living, but so do the club owners. Would a middle aged guy (like I'm going to live to 112) with fresh ideas and vast negotiating experience add to or detract from the mix? Creating a united effort may be more productive than :bang:or a simple march. PM me if anyone is interested.
Old Salty DogBeach Comber
#5
We are commited to original music here @ Salty Dog Saloon
The majority of these bands mentioned above play all original music.
If you wanna help, show up for the march, sign the petition, spread the word.

Thanks for the feedback & words of advice
we love you, all
keep fighting the good fight

http://www.myspace.com/saltydogsaloonrules

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Redd avatar
ReddBeach Fanatic
#6
Why and how are these bands being shut out of jobs and places of entertainment? Is it because the clubs only want copy songs instead of original material? .



analogman its nothing to do with the type of music its to do with recent noise ordinance "enforcement" at places such as Pandoras and Salty Dog

Cops are the point of enforcement but apparantly dont carry noise meters to measure the "noise" from the complainents house or business

I will be there with bells on........

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Jdarg avatar
JdargSoWal Expert
#7
analogman its nothing to do with the type of music its to do with recent noise ordinance "enforcement" at places such as Pandoras and Salty Dog

Cops are the point of enforcement but apparantly dont carry noise meters to measure the "noise" from the complainents house or business

I will be there with bells on........

Thank you- I wasn't aware that this was going on.:( I love this Lost Wages Marching Band!:clap:
wrobert avatar
wrobertBeach Fanatic
#10
for more information

http://www.myspace.com/lostwagesmarchingband



Website is interesting. The noise ordinance is codified in Walton County. How things are measured and such is part of that ordinance from what I remember.
Old Salty DogBeach Comber
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F.Y.I
we do hourly decibel readings from up to 1/2 a mile away. WE HAVE NEVER EXCEEDED the limit, but still the manager went to jail.

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wrobert avatar
wrobertBeach Fanatic
#12
F.Y.I
we do hourly decimal readings from up to 1/2 a mile away. WE HAVE NEVER EXCEEDED the limit, but still the manager went to jail.


That must have been on the Sheriff's department warrant I heard about. I did not realize that deputies did the sound checks any longer, I thought all of that was sent to code enforcement.
Danny Burns avatar
Danny BurnsBeach Fanatic
#13
Whoa, I've watched this movie before in many neighborhoods. The 'taxpayers' vs. the no-good musicians. Ralph can ask for $300,000 but can't bother to buy a $179 noise meter from Radio Shack? How can criminality be proven with no evidence but hearsay. Sounds like discrimination to me. I will try to get by to at least sign the petition.

A simple suggestion; take up donations to buy a meter. I know times are hard, but this inexpensive devise can prove innocence...and NEVER resist or even raise your voice to a police officer. They have jobs to do and citizens to serve. They will always take the easiest way out of a tense situation and let the courts sort out things later. But with proof of compliance and cooperation with authority, you will always prevail.


Also. I have been a live sound guy for over 30 years as well. If I can be of any assistance to anyone, let me know. If I don't have to pay a cover to see you, the initial advice is free...and so are emails...always.
wrobert avatar
wrobertBeach Fanatic
#14
Whoa, I've watched this movie before in many neighborhoods. The 'taxpayers' vs. the no-good musicians. Ralph can ask for $300,000 but can't bother to buy a $179 noise meter from Radio Shack? How can criminality be proven with no evidence but hearsay. Sounds like discrimination to me. I will try to get by to at least sign the petition.

A simple suggestion; take up donations to buy a meter. I know times are hard, but this inexpensive devise can prove innocence...and NEVER resist or even raise your voice to a police officer. They have jobs to do and citizens to serve. They will always take the easiest way out of a tense situation and let the courts sort out things later. But with proof of compliance and cooperation with authority, you will always prevail.


Also. I have been a live sound guy for over 30 years as well. If I can be of any assistance to anyone, let me know. If I don't have to pay a cover to see you, the initial advice is free...and so are emails...always.

Okay now I am venturing into dangerous territory here since I am sourcing my memory of things told to me. I thought, when the sound ordinance was passed, the BCC purchased a number of noise meters and gave them to the SO with the provision that the deputies would be certified in their use. I believe that they were and then promptly reassigned to nowal where there is no noise ordinance.

I understand that we do have a noise ordinance in this county that covers only certain geographical areas, not including Grayton Beach, which has a different ordinance. One day we are going to have to get consistent in this county. It is only fair to the business owners and residents.
Danny Burns avatar
Danny BurnsBeach Fanatic
#15
F.Y.I
we do hourly decimal readings from up to 1/2 a mile away. WE HAVE NEVER EXCEEDED the limit, but still the manager went to jail.

I had no idea when I made my previous post that you already had a meter. If no resistance was made toward the officers, this is discrimination! I will make a point to sign the petition. If not on Sunday, then maybe it could be made available for signing in the future. Keep us posted.

(It's Decibel, BTW)
Danny Burns avatar
Danny BurnsBeach Fanatic
#16
Okay now I am venturing into dangerous territory here since I am sourcing my memory of things told to me. I thought, when the sound ordinance was passed, the BCC purchased a number of noise meters and gave them to the SO with the provision that the deputies would be certified in their use. I believe that they were and then promptly reassigned to nowal where there is no noise ordinance.

I understand that we do have a noise ordinance in this county that covers only certain geographical areas, not including Grayton Beach, which has a different ordinance. One day we are going to have to get consistent in this county. It is only fair to the business owners and residents.

This kind of incompetence never ceases to amaze me. Does anyone out there have a copy, or know where to find a copy of the local noise ordinances?
wrobert avatar
wrobertBeach Fanatic
#17
This kind of incompetence never ceases to amaze me. Does anyone out there have a copy, or know where to find a copy of the local noise ordinances?

It should be on the website. www.co.walton.fl.us.
Matt J avatar
Matt JSWGB
#18
The noise ordinance was actually discussed on here once before, but I can't find it now. Apparently there are clearly defined levels and times when appropriate. IIRC the responding official has to take a reading from the complaintants address.
scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#19
WTF! I have the ears of a bat and local bands don't even make the Top 20 on my list of obnoxious noises when I'm trying to sleep! :idontno:

Instead of people really getting their shorts in a twist and ruining EVERYONE'S fun, they should just get a pair of cheap foam earplugs - available at most grocery stores. They block out music, barking dogs, sirens, motorcycles etc. far more efficiently than calling the po-po!
Danny Burns avatar
Danny BurnsBeach Fanatic
#20
F.Y.I
we do hourly decibel readings from up to 1/2 a mile away. WE HAVE NEVER EXCEEDED the limit, but still the manager went to jail.

The trick is to not exceed the limit at the perimeter of your parking lot. Maybe you could give these to the complainers:

http://www.magidglove.com/product.asp?dept_id=223&pf_id=208

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