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Bobby Bowden forced to retire

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[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4703506"]Bobby Bowden to meet with Florida State Seminoles players before announcement - ESPN@@AMEPARAM@@http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4703432@@AMEPARAM@@4703432[/ame]

Sounds like he wanted at least one more year but was told no yesterday.

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tailwagger avatar
tailwaggerBeach FanaticAuthor
#2
Are FSU fans happy or sad? Is forcing out the coach who made you OK?
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scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#3
I am happy - it was time for him to go and I didn't want it to be because he died on the job just to beat Paterno.

Will be interesting to see who the new head coaches are at ND and FSU.
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#4
Are FSU fans happy or sad? Is forcing out the coach who made you OK?

Depends on who you ask - and if you visit Warchant.com, Tomahawk Nation and/or The Territory you will get a wide range of opinions.

I am sad...sad that it happened this way; that it had to happen this way. It is truly the end of an era. But, there were several factors driving what happened today...and bless his heart, Bobby brought much of it on himself.

TK Wetherell and Bobby are very, very close - and while Bobby was given several choices, I don't think it was as acrimonious as some would make it out to be.

Still, hard not to just bawl my eyeballs out. :( And I'll be over at www.theterritory.com if you need me.
Lake View Too avatar
Lake View TooSoWal Insider
#5
I am a bit sad that he wasn't able to see or admit that his program has slipped quite a bit in the last few years. They were 99th in the country in defense this year and "someone" hasn't stepped up to fix that problem. By the way, can anybody figure out the "frozen offensive linemen" ploy seen in the last game?
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ShallowsNoleBeach Fanatic
#6
I am happy - it was time for him to go and I didn't want it to be because he died on the job just to beat Paterno.

Will be interesting to see who the new head coaches are at ND and FSU.

Jimbo Fisher will be our new head coach. Don't know if he will still be OC as well as HC. More worried about who will be our new DC, and if we can recruit.

I think Urban Meyer would be a great fit at ND...:razz:
BeachSiO2 avatar
BeachSiO2Beach Fanatic
#7
I agree. Urban Meyer would be a grayt choice for ND. Sad for Bobby, but he had a great run,
30abob avatar
30abobBeach Lover
#8
I've been a 'Nole since 1986... a HS Spring Break trip from South GA to PCB included a detour thru the campus to see a friends older brother. I was hooked by the coed's sunbathing on the lawn - forget football! I grew up a Bulldog so converting to another "Gator Hater" team was easy... the ensuing decade and a half of winning made it even easier! I really wish Bobby had retired gracefully at the close of 2005 - the last ACC title year. He missed the opportunity because, like most of us, he didn't know when to say "when".

I went to one game this year, against Jacksonville State, it was shameful - a win in the end but a ridiculous performance on the field and sideline. The program will recover, like all great programs eventually do, but the process will be long and arduous. Bobby's legacy and place in college football history are intact and aren't irreparably tarnished, the hubub will die out and he will be remembered for his truly inspiring accomplishments. However, in the near term it will be worse before it gets better... the dust must settle. Jimbo Fisher will submit to be sacrificed on the altar of Bobby's glory days and so will the next couple of smucks... the same has happened after all of the other "dynasty" coaches have gone to pasture. Eventually FSU will hire the "next" Urban Meyer, he's probably coaching a small unknown Division II team in an inaugural losing season right now. Until then I will do the tomahawk chop with pride... hoping for better days and glad I'm not a Notre Dame fan!
Bob avatar
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#9
34 years at the helm, age 80?
ShallowsNole avatar
ShallowsNoleBeach Fanatic
#10
34 years at the helm, age 80?

Well-documented; what's your point? (never mind, I won't be able to answer from work. :bang:)

34 years as head coach at Florida State. Not the only coaching job he ever had. Remember he was hung in effigy at West Virginia - which makes the as-yet-not-quite-official matchup at the Gator Bowl all that more fitting.
Lake View Too avatar
Lake View TooSoWal Insider
#11
CNN.Com sports had a very interesting article about how this "retirement" was handled rather badly. It was left to the players to make the main announcement. Neither T.K. Weatherall nor the AD made any announcements nor were even available for comment. I know Bobby's reluctance to actually retire was the main reason, but all of these guys should have pulled together to do this with a bit more class.
On the bright side, they (CNN) have recapped Bobby's career and made it very clear what an awesome job he did for Seminole football .

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JEANNEBeach Comber
#12
Bobby

Here in Tallahassee, it is a mixed bag of emotions. While pretty much everyone loves Bobby, we knew it was time for him to go. Lots of different opinions about how it was handled, but nonetheless, a sad day for Tallahassee and FSU. He will be missed and many will have a hole in their hearts for a while, but football is business and the program needs a change. Happy Retirement to Bobby and his family! GO FSU!!!:lolabove:
Lake View Too avatar
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#13
I wanted to re-check the facts before I said something erroneous, but here are the facts: Florida State, under Bobby Bowden's leadership, went fourteen consecutive seasons with ten victories or more! You just have to be proud of that.
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#14
I wanted to re-check the facts before I said something erroneous, but here are the facts: Florida State, under Bobby Bowden's leadership, went fourteen consecutive seasons with ten victories or more! You just have to be proud of that.

Yup. This is a really great story, enjoy.

Bobby Bowden to retire, leaving an amazing legacy with Florida State football - St. Petersburg Times
ShallowsNole avatar
ShallowsNoleBeach Fanatic
#16
Seems like his bosses are the ones who should be fired
Florida State fails to speak after forcing out Bobby Bowden - Andy Staples - SI.com

You do know that TK Wetherell announced his retirement several months ago, and that SI and/or SI.com is a piece of dung?

Not saying it couldn't have been handled better, but SI has a long history of going out of their way to paint Florida State in an unfavorable light. And if it had to happen at all, at least TK manned up (he and Bobby are very close) and did it so that his replacement wouldn't have to next year. :blink:

I just wish Bobby had gone out on his own. But he wanted "one more year."
Kurt avatar
KurtAdmin
#17
Not saying it couldn't have been handled better, but SI has a long history of going out of their way to paint Florida State in an unfavorable light.

Right 😀

Any media kind to FSU?
Bob avatar
BobSoWal Insider
#18
Well-documented; what's your point? (never mind, I won't be able to answer from work. :bang:)

34 years as head coach at Florida State. Not the only coaching job he ever had. Remember he was hung in effigy at West Virginia - which makes the as-yet-not-quite-official matchup at the Gator Bowl all that more fitting.
it's too much of a job at 80.
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bentley williamsBeach Fanatic
#19
TK is a joke. He claimed he had some kind of agreement with the NCAA on settling their academic scandal case. The NCAA immediately said they had no deal and there was nothing in writing.

But Bobby was, first and foremost, the one whose behavior was disgraceful. His response about academic cheating? "I can't do nothing about that. It ain't my problem". What??!!

Time and time again Bobby put his own interests before the interests of the football program. Too much money is invested in the FSU football program for the administration not to even try to appoint the best head coach available. Bobby received nine years of goodwill for building FSU's football program. That's an awful long time provided, and an awful lot of money spent, on goodwill.

The only viable alternative for FSU was to offer Bobby one more season to perhaps avoid the acrimony accompanying Bobby's forced retirement. It would have probably meant more millions wasted, and another season of stalled progress, but if Bobby amicably resigned at the end of next season, it may have been worth it to endure one more year of senility in exchange for avoiding an acrimonious divorce. I'm sure that option was dicussed by FSU's administration, and the administration chose to remove Bobby immediately based on information of which we are not entirely privy. In any case, Bobby has received all the deference and goodwill from FSU he had coming to him and then some.

He's been more than well paid in money and honors by FSU for what he accomplished. And he brought his problems on himself by hanging around way past the time when a more honorable, less selfish man would have voluntarily resigned without being shoved.

If that wasn't bad enough, he lets his equally out of it wife run her mouth to any state or regional media outlet who'd listen, regarding how badly he was being treated and ignoring his job performance as a reason for the end of the Bowden lovefest in Tally.

When the Jeff-a-rooski blew up in his face, that was a perfect time to gracefully step aside with him, rather than allowing his son to be thrown under the bus alone and defiantly stand by as the vulture/coach in waiting was brought in, and surprise, surprise, things haven't really improved!Mickey Andrews gets a shoulder ride and a brand new truck in the last home game and Bobby gets a kick in the arse. Poetic justice? I wish they would burn the place down and start again. Next time, ask me how i really feel.
Minnie avatar
MinnieBeach Fanatic
#20
I hate to see such a legend be forced into this, I wish him and the Noles the best.

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