Yesterday the talking heads on ESPN said that it was pretty much a done deal that A&M would be invited to join the SEC. I meant to post a thread to see what the opinion on the board was about that.
But OOPS! A&M was declined in today's meeting. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...fied-current-alignment-extend-invite-texas-am
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88Admin
Well, you have to bring in two at a time so it makes it twice as hard to expand.
beats on hoodAuthor
Well, you have to bring in two at a time so it makes it twice as hard to expand.On ESPN the anchors were showing several scenarios if Texas A&M were invited. One scenario was having a 13-team conference.
In four hours of listening to ESPN while driving back to GA, Mizzou, FSU, Clemson, and NC State were mentioned as possible 14th teams.
Most of the talk was about A&M feeling like a second-class citizen in the Big 12 (and in the state of Texas) for many reasons, one of which is the Longhorn Network.
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I like 12 teams. But if economics mean expanding, I think Clemson would be a good fit. Who would be your #1 choice for the west and for the east?
beats on hoodAuthor
I like 12 teams. But if economics mean expanding, I think Clemson would be a good fit. Who would be your #1 choice for the west and for the east?Hubby likes it the way it is, although he said the SEC could add A&M and get rid of Vandy. If it has to be 14, He says put A&M and Mizzou in the west and move Auburn to the east.
I like 12. Bigger leagues will further discriminate against undefeated teams like Boise State in weaker conferences as far as BCS goes.
Beach Fanatic
Here is an article that tries to explain all the legal ramifications of the deal. The SEC can't invite A&M. They have to ask to join.
http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-articles/august/mr-slive-ive-got-aam-holding-on-line-13.html
http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-articles/august/mr-slive-ive-got-aam-holding-on-line-13.html
Beach Fanatic
I am glad to have Vanderbilt in the SEC!
Mizzou forget them. You won't ever see any teams moving from division to division.
Mizzou forget them. You won't ever see any teams moving from division to division.
Beach Fanatic
Here is an article that tries to explain all the legal ramifications of the deal. The SEC can't invite A&M. They have to ask to join.
http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2011-articles/august/mr-slive-ive-got-aam-holding-on-line-13.html
They did ask to join. The SEC just left them at the alter and I think it's a good idea.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...fied-current-alignment-extend-invite-texas-am
I like 12 teams but if there had to be a 14th, I would go with Clemson due to the matchups with S. Carolina and Auburn (they are Auburn with a lake). I don't like the idea of Mizzou and shifting Auburn (and Bama?) to the east. It seems to me they would be to top heavy. I don't think Texas A&M and Mizzou could compete year in and year out for the SEC title.
Beach Fanatic
I thought Auburn was Clemson with a title.
What two teams in current SEC states or bordering states could you add that could compete year in and year out for the SEC title?
What two teams in current SEC states or bordering states could you add that could compete year in and year out for the SEC title?
Beach Fanatic
I thought Auburn was Clemson with a title.
What two teams in current SEC states or bordering states could you add that could compete year in and year out for the SEC title?
None that I see willing to move. Texas, Ohio State, Florida State (maybe) and none that I really want to either.
I also was thinking about two schools helping increase the basketball prowess but I don't see TX A&M or Mizzou doing that either. With Vandy we have a little basketball and they increase the conference GPA's and Kentucky gets us basketball.
beats on hoodAuthor
How about our first alma mater, Tulane? If they were in the SEC, they could recruit football players who'd love to get a chance to play in that prestigious conference. Tulane vs LSU could eventually become a rivalry.
Hellnaw.
Hellnaw.

Beach Fanatic
The SEC did not invite them because they are concerned with tortious interference with contracts. It's only a matter of time before the Aggies are there.
Admin
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Beach Fanatic
If Auburn goes to the East Florida is screwed.
Beach Fanatic
The Aggies will eventually be in the SEC...just jumping the legal issues. Fexasssss screwed the entire Big 12 up with their Fexassss Network arrangement.... The Big 12 will soon be a ghost just like the ole SWC. Perhaps the shorthorns would prefer to have their own conference of one...at least they could be assured of a championship each year....:dothewave:
Beach Fanatic
It's official. White smoke has been seen emanating from the Waffle House chimney in Birmingham and the SEC has officially offered an invitation to the aTm Aggies.
Welcome to a real conference Aggies....
Welcome to a real conference Aggies....
Beach Fanatic
Welcome to a real conference Aggies....
And the pleasure of NEVER winning your conference championship. Kinda like the last two teams to join the SEC in '91.
Beach Fanatic
And the pleasure of NEVER winning your conference championship. Kinda like the last two teams to join the SEC in '91.
Several conference championships have been won by the last two teams to join...
Beach Fanatic
I guess I should have said SEC Football championships.
Admin
Who will be 14? Or 15 and 16?
Admin
Texas A&M, which the Southeastern Conference in preparing to welcome into its fold, has a rich history and numerous well-established traditions.
Here's the skinny on the Aggies from the Texas A&M website:
It's the oldest public institution of higher learning in Texas. State lawmakers created the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas on April 17, 1871. Five years earlier the state had agreed to create the college under the federal Morrill Act.
The people of Brazos County offered the state 2,416 acres, and classes started in 1876. Until the 1960s, it was all-white, all-male and all-military. The campus -- now more than 5,200 acres -- is in the twin cities of Bryan and College Station.
The name was officially changed in 1963 to Texas A&M. It now has a diverse student body of more than 49,000 -- "38,000-plus undergraduates and more than 9,000 graduate students studying in over 250 degree programs in 10 colleges."
It is one of three "Tier 1" universities in Texas, along with the University of Texas and Rice. Texas A&M is one of only six senior military colleges, and its voluntary Corps of Cadets is "the largest uniformed body outside the national service academies."
The George Bush Presidential Library and Museum opened on campus in 1997.
MASCOT
Reveille VIII, a full-blooded collie. Called "Miss Rev," she is the highest-ranking member of Texas A&M's Corps of Cadets.
COLORS
Maroon and white. Some games are designated "Maroon Outs," when fans all wear maroon.
WHAT IS AN AGGIE?
The university website answers this question with a citation from "Texas A&M Traditions and Spirit," by C.J. Bible.
"An Aggie is a student at Texas A&M University. In the early 1900s A&M students were referred to as Farmers. The term Aggie began to be used in the 1920s and in 1949, when the yearbook changed its name to Aggieland, Aggie became the official student body nickname."
TRADITIONS
A university fact sheet lists the following Aggie traditions:
-- The 12th Man – Students stand during football games to show support.
-- Muster – Aggies gather each April 21 to renew friendships and honor those who have died. The biggest muster is on campus, but alumni also gather in musters around the world.
-- Yell Practice – A midnight rally is held on the eve of football games. It's at Kyle Field for home games and at announced sites for away games. "Aggies yell; they don’t cheer," according to the fact sheet.
-- Silver Taps – A silent campus memorial service on the first Tuesday of months in the regular academic year. They are held if a student died during the previous month.
Here's the skinny on the Aggies from the Texas A&M website:
It's the oldest public institution of higher learning in Texas. State lawmakers created the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas on April 17, 1871. Five years earlier the state had agreed to create the college under the federal Morrill Act.
The people of Brazos County offered the state 2,416 acres, and classes started in 1876. Until the 1960s, it was all-white, all-male and all-military. The campus -- now more than 5,200 acres -- is in the twin cities of Bryan and College Station.
The name was officially changed in 1963 to Texas A&M. It now has a diverse student body of more than 49,000 -- "38,000-plus undergraduates and more than 9,000 graduate students studying in over 250 degree programs in 10 colleges."
It is one of three "Tier 1" universities in Texas, along with the University of Texas and Rice. Texas A&M is one of only six senior military colleges, and its voluntary Corps of Cadets is "the largest uniformed body outside the national service academies."
The George Bush Presidential Library and Museum opened on campus in 1997.
MASCOT
Reveille VIII, a full-blooded collie. Called "Miss Rev," she is the highest-ranking member of Texas A&M's Corps of Cadets.
COLORS
Maroon and white. Some games are designated "Maroon Outs," when fans all wear maroon.
WHAT IS AN AGGIE?
The university website answers this question with a citation from "Texas A&M Traditions and Spirit," by C.J. Bible.
"An Aggie is a student at Texas A&M University. In the early 1900s A&M students were referred to as Farmers. The term Aggie began to be used in the 1920s and in 1949, when the yearbook changed its name to Aggieland, Aggie became the official student body nickname."
TRADITIONS
A university fact sheet lists the following Aggie traditions:
-- The 12th Man – Students stand during football games to show support.
-- Muster – Aggies gather each April 21 to renew friendships and honor those who have died. The biggest muster is on campus, but alumni also gather in musters around the world.
-- Yell Practice – A midnight rally is held on the eve of football games. It's at Kyle Field for home games and at announced sites for away games. "Aggies yell; they don’t cheer," according to the fact sheet.
-- Silver Taps – A silent campus memorial service on the first Tuesday of months in the regular academic year. They are held if a student died during the previous month.
Skunky
Since Bear Bryant and Gene Stallings have A&M ties, the Aggies have the pedigree. A&M and LSU have a long history, in fact they played in last year's Cotton Bowl and the Aggies are in the top ten of recurring opponents game wise. Arkansas must have a similar figure, although I can't recall them playing A&M recently. I have been to a game at College Station...it was probably one of the hottest days I have ever known, must have been 120 degrees on the field, AstroTurf sucking up the early September afternoon heat. Whooa, hot. They have weird yells and crowd chants, the band is a whole different animal and they like to wave towels ala Pittsburgh Terrible Towels. Get ready to see a whole lotta EaTmE on game day.
Beach Fanatic
Since Bear Bryant and Gene Stallings have A&M ties, the Aggies have the pedigree. A&M and LSU have a long history, in fact they played in last year's Cotton Bowl and the Aggies are in the top ten of recurring opponents game wise. Arkansas must have a similar figure, although I can't recall them playing A&M recently. I have been to a game at College Station...it was probably one of the hottest days I have ever known, must have been 120 degrees on the field, AstroTurf sucking up the early September afternoon heat. Whooa, hot. They have weird yells and crowd chants, the band is a whole different animal and they like to wave towels ala Pittsburgh Terrible Towels. Get ready to see a whole lotta EaTmE on game day.
Arkansas played against the Aggies yearly when we were both in the SWC The rivalry was renewed in 2009 for a 10year series played at Cowboy Stadium in Arlington. Arkansas has won the first two in the series. Overall Arkansas leads the series 40-24-3. I have fond memories of playing the Aggies in the past and they have great school traditions and one of the best (if not the best) bands in the country. IMO, they will be a good addition to the SEC. They have an excellent AD who is bringing in strong coaches and a commitment to investing into their sports future. I also believe that the move will open the fertile Texas market up to stronger recruiting by the SEC schools.
beats on hoodAuthor
Hope y'all are messing with us. This can't be true. That being said, I've been out of the loop today and yesterday. The kidlets had my BMW at the beach, and it broke down at the Tom Thumb in Seagrove on their way back to ATL. On the phone BMW diagnosed it as a dead battery. Some one jumped the car battery, they made it back home, and I've been in Atlanta getting the car serviced. Last Tuesday someone hit my car in the Publix parking lot. Argh!
Not a fan of the super-conference.
EDIT: Hubby and I went to Tulane for undergrad school. There were lots of kids there from Texas who were UT fans. The joke from the Texans at Tulane went like this:
QUESTION: Why don't the Aggies like sh-- sandwiches?
ANSWER: Because they don't like the bread.
Not a fan of the super-conference.
EDIT: Hubby and I went to Tulane for undergrad school. There were lots of kids there from Texas who were UT fans. The joke from the Texans at Tulane went like this:
QUESTION: Why don't the Aggies like sh-- sandwiches?
ANSWER: Because they don't like the bread.
Edited
Admin
Either Baylor drew the short straw or they know they will be conference-less if the SWC dissolves. The school left standing when the music stops?
President R. Bowen Loftin, Texas A&M University
Statement Regarding Conference Situation
"We are certainly pleased with the action taken last night by the presidents and chancellors of the Southeastern Conference to unanimously accept Texas A&M as the league's 13th member. However, this acceptance is conditional, and we are disappointed in the threats made by one of the Big 12 member institutions to coerce Texas A&M into staying in the Big 12 Conference. These actions go against the commitment that was made by this university and the Big 12 on Sept. 2. We are working diligently to resolve any and all issues as outlined by the SEC."
President R. Bowen Loftin, Texas A&M University
Statement Regarding Conference Situation
"We are certainly pleased with the action taken last night by the presidents and chancellors of the Southeastern Conference to unanimously accept Texas A&M as the league's 13th member. However, this acceptance is conditional, and we are disappointed in the threats made by one of the Big 12 member institutions to coerce Texas A&M into staying in the Big 12 Conference. These actions go against the commitment that was made by this university and the Big 12 on Sept. 2. We are working diligently to resolve any and all issues as outlined by the SEC."
Admin
A Winning Tradition
Hmmmm ......
- Men's Outdoor Track & Field - National Champions, 2011, 2010, 2009
- Women's Outdoor Track & Field - National Champions, 2011, 2010, 2009
- Women's Basketball - National Champions, 2011
- Men's Tennis Doubles - National Champions, 2011
- Equestrian - Western Team National Champions, 2011, 2010, 2009; seven others since 1999
- Men's Indoor Tennis Doubles - National Champions, 2010
- Men's Golf - National Champions, 2009
- NACDA Director's Cup - nationally ranked #6 in 2010, #13 in 2009, #12 in 2008
- 20 Varsity sports teams, 30 club teams
- One of the largest intramurals programs in the country
Hmmmm ......
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