Walker vs Biker

Yes it hapens all the time. It can be chaos with skaters, golf carts, etc. A big problem is kids being free and riding fast and crazy all over the path and the roads... and adults who haven't ridden a bike in years is also a problem. I've seen them ride right in front of cars like they forgot how to brake. Funny and not so funny is when they just fall over for no reason.

Riders should warn people when they are approaching from behind for sure.

Be careful walking on the sidewalk/path between Seaside & Watercolor when it starts getting dark outside. So many kids/teens riding their bikes, without lights, on the sidewalk. Someone's going to get hurt one day.

The only place I have been hit by a car is on the bike path. I been ridden off the rode a few times by cars and suffice it to say this is a dangerous place for cyclists. People are ignorant of bike laws, cyclists and tourons alike, but drivers here suck for road riders. They just don't like them. All of 30A needs a dedicated bike lane along with the path which in Seagrove is more of a construction workers free parking zone than hike bike path. It's no good for road bikes since it's full of rocks, glass,sand, cracks and holes and cars and trucks. Or even worse allow to be a loading zone for businesses. This path here is a bad compared to the rest of the Country. So that's why they ride on the road and annoy those who don't bike.

There is just no room for "real" bikers on Scenic 30A. I'm patient and don't mind the bikers riding on the road but still there have been some hairy situations that made me so nervous, on curves, with oncoming cars oblivious to where they are going, etc... Recently, a "rude" biker was in the middle of the lane forcing me to go far around but I was afraid he wouldn't see me so I did a quick honk and I got a big middle finger. I guess a warning honk doesn't sound friendly but trying to let him know I was there.

Most of the bikers are faster than golf carts at least.

It was my understanding that "Real Bikers" were to be on the roads, not on the path for walkers and casual bikers. The ones I've almost been hit by are the real bikers that think their in the Tour de France. When we have said something, we got cursed at. Sounds like to solve this problem, there should be a fast biker path only. That way they don't run anyone over and don't get hit themselves by cars!

The solution is for 30a to have a 3' paved shoulder on each side. Then the fast bikers can ride on the roads without disrupting traffic or causing issues on the slower speed multi-use path. This is not a new idea, they are the norm on roads all over the US.

IMO the biggest problem is idiot drivers impatiently veering around road bikers. Far too many near miss head-on car collisions because they are so focused on passing the biker that they don't even look for oncoming traffic! And you don't have to drive completely into the other lane to pass a biker!

Keep Ed Walborsky's number on speed dial. You never know, you might get that million dollar injury on the bike path.

We take the back routes around Seaside and Watercolor to avoid most of the busy 30A stretch. Early morning is the only time we go straight from Seaside west or east. Fun to explore the other areas anyway🙂 It's bad everywhere. Here in Louisville, we live in a community that allows golf carts - for now - but some kids are driving late at night and parents think it's fun to let their 10 year olds drive. Also, cars driving fast. Not stopping at stop signs. It's everywhere. So sad. See you in 45 days and again and again.... 3 times this year. What have I done? Ellen

Do the "fast" road cyclists have absolute traffic right-of-way over all other traffic at intersections and crosswalks?

There are several designated pedestrian crosswalks with signs along 30A where I often see cars slowing down/stopping to let pedestrians cross, but the "tour de France" type cyclists, often in groups, sometimes don't stop for the pedestrians. I was on the 30A Path at Seagrove Tom Thumb one busy weekend morning and several dads and kids were walking across the designated pedestrian crosswalk towards the beach and cars had stopped for them. The leader of a cycling group yelled ahead to a few kids who were about to cross that they (the cyclists) were not going to stop. They were not under a police escort and I wasn't aware of any special bike race going on at the time.

Who was in the right here?

And also, the 30A Path crossing at 395 also has STOP signs for all users - cyclists, runners, pedestrians, but cyclists, whether tourists on cruisers on the Path or the fast cyclists on the road, often don't stop there!

When I learned the rules of the road, it was if you were on a bike on the road you had to obey every law just like if you were in a car.

And related, if you were on a bike on the road or crossing at a crosswalk you had no privelages of a pedestrian. In order for cars to stop, you have to dismount your bike and walk across. I doubt hardly anyone knows that and people on bikes at crosswalks assume cars are going to stop for them.

PET PEEVE ALERT
Drivers who stop in the middle of the road for people to cross when there ain't a crosswalk. This is very dangerous!

I would never allow my kid to ride a bike on that bike path unless West of Grayton Beach. Even then, the child had better have really good skills and be alert.

When I learned the rules of the road, it was if you were on a bike on the road you had to obey every law just like if you were in a car.

And related, if you were on a bike on the road or crossing at a crosswalk you had no privelages of a pedestrian. In order for cars to stop, you have to dismount your bike and walk across. I doubt hardly anyone knows that and people on bikes at crosswalks assume cars are going to stop for them.

PET PEEVE ALERT
Drivers who stop in the middle of the road for people to cross when there ain't a crosswalk. This is very dangerous!

I never dismount, but they usually stop for me anyway. Most of the drivers I've encountered a smart enough not to try to hold me to the letter of the law.