what's up with Pandora's at Grayton Beach, sign says closed for repairs. My buddy that works there say the decision was kind of sudden, I sure do love the outside bar and grayt entertainment. I thought it was one of those places that you could count on to always be there, It seems to have become mostly a cocktail crowd.... whassup?
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Beach Lover
this is off topic but what happened to Cafe Spiazzas in Sea Side?????
I heard they closed, any truth?????
I heard they closed, any truth?????
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SoWal Expert
this is off topic but what happened to Cafe Spiazzas in Sea Side?????
I heard they closed, any truth?????
We tried to eat there a few weeks ago- and it was closed then. On a Saturday.
needs to get out more
answers could be had at hurricane's
Beach Lover
This is David Biegler from Hurricane Oyster Bar and Cafe Spiazzia.
Yes, Cafe Spiazzia is currently closed. The intention is to do some repairs and maintenance and get back open for Christmas week. During this time we have been doing some negotiations with Seaside in response to our lease.
For the past two and a half years we have been dealing with the stress of the fact that Seaside sold the parking lot behind our restaurant for a single family residence: our kitchen sits on that lot. This lot sold for multiple million dollars; here is the public record link to that transaction: http://64.234.218.210/cgi-bin/walton_display.cgi?KEY=15-3S-19-25210-000-0040. As you can see the sales price is for a significant sum of money. We were informed of this transaction on the very day that we signed a contract to rebuild after our fire several years ago.
It is due to this news that we originally chose not to renew our lease for the HOB in Seaside... the small size of the HOB made it depend on Spiazzia to perform and with uncertainty as to Spiazzia's future we could not resign with the HOB.
Seaside informed us in April 2005 that they would have to move Spiazzia or remodel it to pull our kitchen off that lot. We agreed to work with them and assist in this. They were unable to perform in winter 2005-2006 and wanted to try again in 2006-2007. Once again the response was lets visit about it again in November 2007, now the answer is that they dont have to do anything until next year and maybe not until the year after.
As you can imagine, a small business in SoWal is hard enough to manage without your landlord consistently making you feel as though you may only have one more year doing business as you know it. This prevents a business from making good positive changes and really ties your hands.
At this point I am discussing a mutual cancellation of that lease so that we may concentrate on things that we know have a future, but I am still considering reopening. We will keep you informed.
We care deeply about this community, our customers and our employees. We moved the majority of them over to the HOB and are looking forward to many great years over there.
Please stop by and give those employees your support!!!
Thank you,
David Biegler
Yes, Cafe Spiazzia is currently closed. The intention is to do some repairs and maintenance and get back open for Christmas week. During this time we have been doing some negotiations with Seaside in response to our lease.
For the past two and a half years we have been dealing with the stress of the fact that Seaside sold the parking lot behind our restaurant for a single family residence: our kitchen sits on that lot. This lot sold for multiple million dollars; here is the public record link to that transaction: http://64.234.218.210/cgi-bin/walton_display.cgi?KEY=15-3S-19-25210-000-0040. As you can see the sales price is for a significant sum of money. We were informed of this transaction on the very day that we signed a contract to rebuild after our fire several years ago.
It is due to this news that we originally chose not to renew our lease for the HOB in Seaside... the small size of the HOB made it depend on Spiazzia to perform and with uncertainty as to Spiazzia's future we could not resign with the HOB.
Seaside informed us in April 2005 that they would have to move Spiazzia or remodel it to pull our kitchen off that lot. We agreed to work with them and assist in this. They were unable to perform in winter 2005-2006 and wanted to try again in 2006-2007. Once again the response was lets visit about it again in November 2007, now the answer is that they dont have to do anything until next year and maybe not until the year after.
As you can imagine, a small business in SoWal is hard enough to manage without your landlord consistently making you feel as though you may only have one more year doing business as you know it. This prevents a business from making good positive changes and really ties your hands.
At this point I am discussing a mutual cancellation of that lease so that we may concentrate on things that we know have a future, but I am still considering reopening. We will keep you informed.
We care deeply about this community, our customers and our employees. We moved the majority of them over to the HOB and are looking forward to many great years over there.
Please stop by and give those employees your support!!!
Thank you,
David Biegler
Beach Fanatic
My boyfriend and I really enjoyed hob when we were down in sept. I had the combo oyster/shrimp po boy and he had blackened fish tacos both were great. oh and the draft beer wasn't bad either😀
SoWal Expert
Thanks for filling us in, David. I've been hearing some talk around town, but wasn't hearing the entire story.
Moderator
The Landlord / Tenant tango is the reason that Shades moved down the road. They basically hung out at the Seaside location longer than they wanted just for spite...
SoWal Insider
Seaside is NOT what it once was. :angry:
David I am sorry to hear about your trouble about Spiazzia but Hurricanes in the new location is great and the fish tacos are divine.....
David I am sorry to hear about your trouble about Spiazzia but Hurricanes in the new location is great and the fish tacos are divine.....
SoWal Expert
So let's see. We are left with Pickle's, Great Southern, B&A, and the Taco Bar. Dave's places are excellent choices, but not on a weekly basis with kids. Great Southern is OK. Pickles is ridiculous on several levels. My family is left with leaving Seaside to eat on most nights.
SoWal Expert
picnic on the lawn in Seaside.
SoWal Expert
picnic on the lawn in Seaside.
It's getting kinda chilly at night for that- and that dam grass sends the Princess into a coughing fit.:( Maybe we should just eat out of the back of the car.
Beach Fanatic
So let's see. We are left with Pickle's, Great Southern, B&A, and the Taco Bar. Dave's places are excellent choices, but not on a weekly basis with kids. Great Southern is OK. Pickles is ridiculous on several levels. My family is left with leaving Seaside to eat on most nights.
"Oh how quickly we shall forget" said Othello. What about the Seagrove Village Market. Not bad steaks at night and lunch as well.
SWGB
"Oh how quickly we shall forget" said Othello. What about the Seagrove Village Market. Not bad steaks at night and lunch as well.
Seagrove Market is wonderful, but it's not Seaside it is Seagrove. 😀
SWGB
Just noticed that was my Devil Post.
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