Since I am buying and developing on the St. Joseph Peninsula (Cape San Blas), I went a-Googling to find a forum to read and learn about what the residents had to say about their neighborhoods in the Panhandle. I feel that if I pay attention to your neighborhood we can avoid the mistakes you have made. :shock:
We have a unique opportunity to control what many expect to be explosive future growth especially with the revival of Arvida-St.Joe's interest in their real estate holdings in and around Port St. Joe. God blessed us by not growing enough trees to attract their interest, St. Joe is a minor player on The Cape. 😀
If you wll now excuse me, The Sheep shall return to Listen n Learn mode.
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TheSheep
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BobSoWal InsiderO'Wal10,368 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Cape San Blas is the place to be for solitude and nature. Unless I'm wrong, most of it is 10 feet or less above sea level. The saying may well be "build high, and build often". Perhaps not, as I don't know the last time the Cape was wacked by a cyclonic disturbance of Cat 3 or higher.
Beach Runner
Beach Runnerbeats on hoodNear the ATL and in SoWal as often as possible15,269 postsJoined View profileMessagebeats on hood
One of my good friends owns a beach house there. She says it's beautiful there, but it's boring (few dining choices, no place to go on a rainy day, etc.). Since she doesn't work and her husband makes the money, she says she has to deal with his preferences.
I guess I should have said that her husband owns a beach house there.
I guess I should have said that her husband owns a beach house there.
Cape San Blas is the place to be for solitude and nature. Unless I'm wrong, most of it is 10 feet or less above sea level. The saying may well be "build high, and build often". Perhaps not, as I don't know the last time the Cape was wacked by a cyclonic disturbance of Cat 3 or higher.You are correct, there are no elevations to elevate TheSheep to speak of and if it were not forthe Rock Wall which runs the west-north peninsular line The Sheep :shark:
Erosion on the westerly facing beach has required a full restoration, in some places, beginning Nov07. The southerly facing beach is taking on new width. TheSheep is building one the sunset side. :doh:
Luckily, damage from the 'canes has not been severe but no doubt one needs to be serious about stilting your home.
One of my good friends owns a beach house there. She says it's beautiful there, but it's boring (few dining choices, no place to go on a rainy day, etc.). Since she doesn't work and her husband makes the money, she says she has to deal with his preferences.😱 :lolabove: :floor:
I guess I should have said that her husband owns a beach house there.
TheSheep agrees, The Cape is beyootiful in a rather calm way. Having spent six months on Sanibel, living with Mr. and Mrs. Red Algae and their children, Stinken and Rottin, the beach depths and pristineinininity was a welcome surprise. I would disagree about dining choices. There is Bubbas Shrimp and Mollusk House, That Place on 98, and there is, well, there is, you know....
Yes, we eat in. :idontno:
Cape San Blas is the place to be for solitude and nature.One can always back up that fact by examining prices of vacant lots. Similar real estate up your way would run $1.x to $2.y for beach front. We have hundreds of lots much less than that. Presently TheSheep has under contract a 100' lot, 1.07 acres, on the beach-soon-to-be-completely-gone side of The Cape for under $550K. What a steal, eh? 😀
Intermission
Thank you for waiting; Florida DEP was on the phone, I recorded.
FDEP: "Until the beach restoration is through, NoSheep is getting a permit to build.
TheSheep: Oh, that will be very soon, I suppose...
FEDP: "You consider May 2008 "very soon."
The Sheep: :shock: 😱 :bang:
beachmouse
beachmouseBeach FanaticBluewater Bay, FL3,499 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Development on the Cape is always going to be limited because no sane insurance company should write a policy there. We get down there about every other year. I remember what it looked like before George and Earl in 1998, and the coastal erosion since then is staggering. Yes, there actually used to be beach on the other side of that concrete chunk seawall.
Some day, it's going to be cash-only self-insuring homeowners out there if it isn't already.
Some day, it's going to be cash-only self-insuring homeowners out there if it isn't already.
Ohio Girl
Ohio GirlBeach LoverSagamore Hills OH239 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
Cape San Blas is a beautiful place to visit. My opinion is that any barrier island is too fragile for development. We were there after a tropical storm in 2005, and there was flooding everywhere. The stump hole was flooded and it was so obvious that if a strong hurricane hits CSB, it could easily be split into 2 separate pieces.
TooFarTampa
TooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Agree with Beachmouse, Sheep. Before you close, please check out your insurance options. 😱 I have read some very scary things about insurance there as well.
Oh, and :welcome: You are right about the Red Tide. As a result we are delighted to drive 6 hours to the beach.
Oh, and :welcome: You are right about the Red Tide. As a result we are delighted to drive 6 hours to the beach.
Bob
BobSoWal InsiderO'Wal10,368 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Agree with Beachmouse, Sheep. Before you close, please check out your insurance options. 😱 I have read some very scary things about insurance there as well.Yes, but there's always the traffic to enjoy on Sanibel!
Oh, and :welcome: You are right about the Red Tide. As a result we are delighted to drive 6 hours to the beach.
seagrovelover
seagroveloverlittle sugarSt Louis Missouri2,984 postsJoined View profileMessagelittle sugar
All I have to say is watch out for those summer mosquitos 😱 they are they reason why we will not be returning there for vacation, it was the worst!!!! on the bright side, it is very, very beautiful and you would be hard pressed to find 100% BEACH FRONT rental homes with pools for the prices on the cape.......but my heart belongs to South Walton:wub:
Development on the Cape is always going to be limited because no sane insurance company should write a policy there. We get down there about every other year. I remember what it looked like before George and Earl in 1998, and the coastal erosion since then is staggering. Yes, there actually used to be beach on the other side of that concrete chunk seawall.Not yet and if Jebbie has his way, not ever, Ms. Mouse. There are many insane insurers (aren't there always, how do they make an asspenny I do not know :idontno:). Jebbie sent us $3M as a gift, we are so pleased! Now the mighty FedGov will drop by frequently to make sure we have enough sand after the restoration this year forever and ever and ever!
Some day, it's going to be cash-only self-insuring homeowners out there if it isn't already.
I do declare, now that you come along, I have not seen a mouse, no not one at all, on The Cape; I suppose meece have better places to reside where they have no fears of Might Mother Nature like Seagrove and Grayton and Orlando. :shock:
Those mouse ears, they clash with my heels, not for TheSheep or sheeplike, IMVHO.
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Cape San Blas is a beautiful place to visit. My opinion is that any barrier island is too fragile for development. We were there after a tropical storm in 2005, and there was flooding everywhere. The stump hole was flooded and it was so obvious that if a strong hurricane hits CSB, it could easily be split into 2 separate pieces.Yes, split it might and look at the sad fortunes of those in North Captiva. How often they complain about their high rental rates and near full in season occupancies since Mighty Mother Nature whacked the pass in half and isolating them from all the nasty world! Those poor people. They are so traumatized nearly all refuse to sell! Then when they do, they get inundated with offers and have to spend days on days, wasting their precious, God limited time, responding. :(
I suppose you are right, visit then leave. People must have their crowds and McDonalds and parties and backed up highways, that is true life!
I have heard, please do not gossip this along, that those people (I hear they have no heads and are only three feet tall due to the isolation, possibly cannibalism 😱) read books. Yes, agggggggh, how awfully terrible is that!:banging:
Agree with Beachmouse, Sheep. Before you close, please check out your insurance options. 😱 I have read some very scary things about insurance there as well.Thank you kind sir, will check those options out. The fall back position is self-insurance, it is not a pretty one because it means one must have less of a home. I saw one person, crying, she had to give up her fourth and fifth bedroom, her poor friends of her friends will have to sleep on a 🙂eek🙂 rollout bed!
Oh, and :welcome: You are right about the Red Tide. As a result we are delighted to drive 6 hours to the beach.
I was grazing along, and I saw this BIG X and then I saw these BIG A and M and F and E. They were on the vacant lots and lots of them with those letters. When I find out that those with the "F" in them meant FEMA, I was scared! :drink: Please tell me, they did fire Brownie, right?
One correction, humbly, it was not thr Red Nasty Tide we abhorred, it was the awash of the Red Algae, clumps on clumps on clumps, may I show?
http://www.juliezickefoose.com/blog/uploaded_images/coupleibisbeach-703495.jpg
All I have to say is watch out for those summer mosquitos 😱 they are they reason why we will not be returning there for vacation, it was the worst!!!! on the bright side, it is very, very beautiful and you would be hard pressed to find 100% BEACH FRONT rental homes with pools for the prices on the cape.......but my heart belongs to South Walton:wub:We have seen those Monsters, you say there are more then twelve? 😱 Well, dammy, if it isn't the see-the-no-seeums on Sanibel, the mosque eatos on Marco/Naples (no sharp attack to our loverly Mooslim neighbors!), it's the crocodiles who eat puppies, the turtles who have to have their own snotty season, make way for the snakes and aardvarks, don't run over them, dim those lights!:clap_1:
That does it, I have no intention of becoming sheepmeat for a swarm of misguided miscreant oversized gnats. MissusSheep and I shall retire to our enclosed pool or screened deck and view the view. All things relative, Ms Lover, it could be the attached. :(
Yes, but there's always the traffic to enjoy on Sanibel!Bob, funny thing about that traffic.
It never showed up. :idontno: Everyone told us when we announced our grazing south to sweet Sanibel that traffic was oh so bad. We arrived in May, then July, then August, left in mid Janaury, My God (excuse me Ian, no flutes please), where were all the peoples? Seems we got out @ the right time, lucky Sheeps we were, are, er, were. :clap_1:
snippedtyBtw, my condolences, heartily offered, for your Four Dead. :(
rancidrancidBeach Fanatic270 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
Bob, funny thing about that traffic.
It never showed up. :idontno: Everyone told us when we announced our grazing south to sweet Sanibel that traffic was oh so bad. We arrived in May, then July, then August, left in mid Janaury, My God (excuse me Ian, no flutes please), where were all the peoples? Seems we got out @ the right time, lucky Sheeps we were, are, er, were. :clap_1:
Was that a Jethro Tull reference I smelled?
Was that a Jethro Tull reference I smelled?
Smell? Sir, what do you mean.
Excuse me, MissusSheep comes, looks like she has spilt bread crumbs all over the bed, best just shake my head.
You know, it's is only the giving that makes us what we are. ;-)
Bob
BobSoWal InsiderO'Wal10,368 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
Bob, funny thing about that traffic.You are correct, but traffic was an issue pre-Charlie...I guess something good came of the storm after all. I met the Mayor six years ago at a statewide city goverment convention, and he admitted to the island's congested traffic.
It never showed up. :idontno: Everyone told us when we announced our grazing south to sweet Sanibel that traffic was oh so bad. We arrived in May, then July, then August, left in mid Janaury, My God (excuse me Ian, no flutes please), where were all the peoples? Seems we got out @ the right time, lucky Sheeps we were, are, er, were. :clap_1:
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