A nice summary for those of us who don't religiously follow real estate, banking and Wall Street:clap_1:
March 11, 2007
News Analysis
Crisis Looms in Market for Mortgages
By GRETCHEN MORGENSON
On March 1, a Wall Street analyst at Bear Stearns wrote an upbeat report on a company that specializes in making mortgages to cash-poor homebuyers. The company, New Century Financial, had already disclosed that a growing number of borrowers were defaulting, and its stock, at around $15, had lost half its value in three weeks.
What happened next seems all too familiar to investors who bought technology stocks in 2000 at the breathless urging of Wall Street analysts. Last week, New Century said it would stop making loans and needed emergency financing to survive. The stock collapsed to $3.21.
The analyst?s untimely call, coupled with a failure among other Wall Street institutions to identify problems in the home mortgage market, isn?t the only familiar ring to investors who watched the technology stock bubble burst precisely seven years ago.
Now, as then, Wall Street firms and entrepreneurs made fortunes issuing questionable securities, in this case pools of home loans taken out by risky borrowers. Now, as then, bullish stock and credit analysts for some of those same Wall Street firms, which profited in the underwriting and rating of those investments, lulled investors with upbeat pronouncements even as loan defaults ballooned. Now, as then, regulators stood by as the mania churned, fed by lax standards and anything-goes lending.
Investment manias are nothing new, of course. But the demise of this one has been broadly viewed as troubling, as it involves the nation?s $6.5 trillion mortgage securities market, which is larger even than the United States treasury market.
Hanging in the balance is the nation?s housing market, which has been a big driver of the economy. Fewer lenders means many potential homebuyers will find it more difficult to get credit, while hundreds of thousands of homes will go up for sale as borrowers default, further swamping a stalled market.
?The regulators are trying to figure out how to work around it, but the Hill is going to be in for one big surprise,? said Josh Rosner, a managing director at Graham-Fisher & Company, an independent investment research firm in New York, and an expert on mortgage securities. ?This is far more dramatic than what led to Sarbanes-Oxley,? he added, referring to the legislation that followed the WorldCom and Enron scandals, ?both in conflicts and in terms of absolute economic impact.?
While real estate prices were rising, the market for home loans operated like a well-oiled machine, providing ready money to borrowers and high returns to investors like pension funds, insurance companies, hedge funds and other institutions. Now this enormous and important machine is sputtering, and the effects are reverberating throughout Main Street, Wall Street and Washington.
Already, more than two dozen mortgage lenders have failed or closed their doors, and shares of big companies in the mortgage industry have declined significantly. Delinquencies on loans made to less creditworthy borrowers ? known as subprime mortgages ? recently reached 12.6 percent. Some banks have reported rising problems among borrowers that were deemed more creditworthy as well.
Traders and investors who watch this world say the major participants ? Wall Street firms, credit rating agencies, lenders and investors ? are holding their collective breath and hoping that the spring season for home sales will reinstate what had been a go-go market for mortgage securities. Many Wall Street firms saw their own stock prices decline over their exposure to the turmoil.
?I guess we are a bit surprised at how fast this has unraveled,? said Tom Zimmerman, head of asset-backed securities research at UBS, in a recent conference call with investors.
Even now the tone accentuates the positive. In a recent presentation to investors, UBS Securities discussed the potential for losses among some mortgage securities in a variety of housing markets. None of the models showed flat or falling home prices, however.
The Bear Stearns analyst who upgraded New Century, Scott R. Coren, wrote in a research note that the company?s stock price reflected the risks in its industry, and that the downside risk was about $10 in a ?rescue-sale scenario.? According to New Century, Bear Stearns is among the firms with a ?longstanding? relationship financing its mortgage operation. Mr. Coren, through a spokeswoman, declined to comment.
Others who follow the industry have voiced more caution. Thomas A. Lawler, founder of Lawler Economic and Housing Consulting, said: ?It?s not that the mortgage industry is collapsing, it?s just that the mortgage industry went wild and there are consequences of going wild.
?I think there is no doubt that home sales are going to be weaker than most anybody who was forecasting the market just two months ago thought. For those areas where the housing market was already not too great, where inventories were at historically high levels and it finally looked like things were stabilizing, this is going to be unpleasant.?
Like worms that surface after a torrential rain, revelations that emerge when an asset bubble bursts are often unattractive, involving dubious industry practices and even fraud. In the coming weeks, some mortgage market participants predict, investors will learn not only how lax real estate lending standards became, but also how hard to value these opaque securities are and how easy their values are to prop up.
Owners of mortgage securities that have been pooled, for example, do not have to reflect the prevailing market prices of those securities each day, as stockholders do. Only when a security is downgraded by a rating agency do investors have to mark their holdings to the market value. As a result, traders say, many investors are reporting the values of their holdings at inflated prices.
?How these things are valued for portfolio purposes is exposed to management judgment, which is potentially arbitrary,? Mr. Rosner said.
At the heart of the turmoil is the subprime mortgage market, which developed to give loans to shaky borrowers or to those with little cash to put down as collateral. Some 35 percent of all mortgage securities issued last year were in that category, up from 13 percent in 2003.
Looking to expand their reach and their profits, lenders were far too willing to lend, as evidenced by the creation of new types of mortgages ? known as ?affordability products? ? that required little or no down payment and little or no documentation of a borrower?s income. Loans with 40-year or even 50-year terms were also popular among cash-strapped borrowers seeking low monthly payments. Exceedingly low ?teaser? rates that move up rapidly in later years were another feature of the new loans.
The rapid rise in the amount borrowed against a property?s value shows how willing lenders were to stretch. In 2000, according to Banc of America Securities, the average loan to a subprime lender was 48 percent of the value of the underlying property. By 2006, that figure reached 82 percent.
Mortgages requiring little or no documentation became known colloquially as ?liar loans.? An April 2006 report by the Mortgage Asset Research Institute, a consulting concern in Reston, Va., analyzed 100 loans in which the borrowers merely stated their incomes, and then looked at documents those borrowers had filed with the I.R.S. The resulting differences were significant: in 90 percent of loans, borrowers overstated their incomes 5 percent or more. But in almost 60 percent of cases, borrowers inflated their incomes by more than half.
A Deutsche Bank report said liar loans accounted for 40 percent of the subprime mortgage issuance last year, up from 25 percent in 2001.
Securities backed by home mortgages have been traded since the 1970s, but it has been only since 2002 or so that investors, including pension funds, insurance companies, hedge funds and other institutions, have shown such an appetite for them.
Wall Street, of course, was happy to help refashion mortgages from arcane and illiquid securities into ubiquitous and frequently traded ones. Its reward is that it now dominates the market. While commercial banks and savings banks had long been the biggest lenders to home buyers, by 2006, Wall Street had a commanding share ? 60 percent ? of the mortgage financing market, Federal Reserve data show.
The big firms in the business are Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank and UBS. They buy mortgages from issuers, put thousands of them into pools to spread out the risks and then divide them into slices, known as tranches, based on quality. Then they sell them.
The profits from packaging these securities and trading them for customers and their own accounts have been phenomenal. At Lehman Brothers, for example, mortgage-related businesses contributed directly to record revenue and income over the last three years.
The issuance of mortgage-related securities, which include those backed by home-equity loans, peaked in 2003 at more than $3 trillion, according to data from the Bond Market Association. Last year?s issuance, reflecting a slowdown in home price appreciation, was $1.93 trillion, a slight decline from 2005.
In addition to enviable growth, the mortgage securities market has undergone other changes in recent years. In the 1990s, buyers of mortgage securities spread out their risk by combining those securities with loans backed by other assets, like credit card receivables and automobile loans. But in 2001, investor preferences changed, focusing on specific types of loans. Mortgages quickly became the favorite.
Another change in the market involves its trading characteristics. Years ago, mortgage-backed securities appealed to a buy-and-hold crowd, who kept the securities on their books until the loans were paid off. ?You used to think of mortgages as slow moving,? said Glenn T. Costello, managing director of structured finance residential mortgage at Fitch Ratings. ?Now it has become much more of a trading market, with a mark-to-market bent.?
The average daily trading volume of mortgage securities issued by government agencies like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, for example, exceeded $250 billion last year. That?s up from about $60 billion in 2000.
Wall Street became so enamored of the profits in mortgages that it began to expand its reach, buying companies that make loans to consumers to supplement its packaging and sales operations. In August 2006, Morgan Stanley bought Saxon, a $6.5 billion subprime mortgage underwriter, for $706 million.
And last September, Merrill Lynch paid $1.3 billion to buy First Franklin Financial, a home lender in San Jose, Calif. At the time, Merrill said it expected First Franklin to add to its earnings in 2007. Now analysts expect Merrill to take a large loss on the purchase.
Indeed, on Feb. 28, as the first fiscal quarter ended for many big investment banks, Wall Street buzzed with speculation that the firms had slashed the value of their numerous mortgage holdings, recording significant losses.
As prevailing interest rates remained low over the last several years, the appetite for these securities only rose. In the ever-present search for high yields, buyers clamored for securities that contained subprime mortgages, which carry interest rates that are typically one to two percentage points higher than traditional loans. Mortgage securities participants say increasingly lax lending standards in these loans became almost an invitation to commit mortgage fraud. It is too early to tell how significant a role mortgage fraud played in the rocketing delinquency rates ? 12.6 percent among subprime borrowers. Delinquency rates among all mortgages stood at 4.7 percent in the third quarter of 2006.
For years, investors cared little about risks in mortgage holdings. That is changing.
?I would not be surprised if between now and the end of the year at least 20 percent of BBB and BBB- bonds that are backed by subprime loans originated in 2006 will be downgraded,? Mr. Lawler said.
Still, the rating agencies have yet to downgrade large numbers of mortgage securities to reflect the market turmoil. Standard & Poor?s has put 2 percent of the subprime loans it rates on watch for a downgrade, and Moody?s said it has downgraded 1 percent to 2 percent of such mortgages that were issued in 2005 and 2006.
Fitch appears to be the most proactive, having downgraded 3.7 percent of subprime mortgages in the period.
The agencies say that they are confident that their ratings reflect reality in the mortgages they have analyzed and that they have required managers of mortgage pools with risky loans in them to increase the collateral. A spokesman for S.& P. said the firm made its ratings requirements more stringent for subprime issuers last summer and that they shored up the loans as a result.
Meeting with Wall Street analysts last week, Terry McGraw, chief executive of McGraw-Hill, the parent of S.& P., said the firm does not believe that loans made in 2006 will perform ?as badly as some have suggested.?
Nevertheless, some investors wonder whether the rating agencies have the stomach to downgrade these securities because of the selling stampede that would follow. Many mortgage buyers cannot hold securities that are rated below investment grade ? insurance companies are an example. So if the securities were downgraded, forced selling would ensue, further pressuring an already beleaguered market.
Another consideration is the profits in mortgage ratings. Some 6.5 percent of Moody?s 2006 revenue was related to the subprime market.
Brian Clarkson, Moody?s co-chief operating officer, denied that the company hesitates to cut ratings. ?We made assumptions early on that we were going to have worse performance in subprime mortgages, which is the reason we haven?t seen that many downgrades,? he said. ?If we have something that is investment grade that we need to take below investment grade, we will do it.?
Interestingly, accounting conventions in mortgage securities require an investor to mark his holdings to market only when they get downgraded. So investors may be assigning higher values to their positions than they would receive if they had to go into the market and find a buyer. That delays the reckoning, some analysts say.
?There are delayed triggers in many of these investment vehicles and that is delaying the recognition of losses,? Charles Peabody, founder of Portales Partners, an independent research boutique in New York, said. ?I do think the unwind is just starting. The moment of truth is not yet here.?
On March 2, reacting to the distress in the mortgage market, a throng of regulators, including the Federal Reserve Board, asked lenders to tighten their policies on lending to those with questionable credit. Late last week, WMC Mortgage, General Electric?s subprime mortgage arm, said it would no longer make loans with no down payments.
Meanwhile, investors wait to see whether the spring home selling season will shore up the mortgage market. If home prices do not appreciate or if they fall, defaults will rise, and pension funds and others that embraced the mortgage securities market will have to record losses. And they will likely retreat from the market, analysts said, affecting consumers and the overall economy.
A paper published last month by Mr. Rosner and Joseph R. Mason, an associate professor of finance at Drexel University?s LeBow College of Business, assessed the potential problems associated with disruptions in the mortgage securities market. They wrote: ?Decreased funding for residential mortgage-backed securities could set off a downward spiral in credit availability that can deprive individuals of home ownership and substantially hurt the U.S. economy.?
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36This article dedicated to Shelly:lol:
Top investor sees U.S. property crash
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:59PM EDT
By Elif Kaban
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Commodities investment guru Jim Rogers stepped into the U.S. subprime fray on Wednesday, predicting a real estate crash that would trigger defaults and spread contagion to emerging markets.
"You can't believe how bad it's going to get before it gets any better," the prominent U.S. fund manager told Reuters by telephone from New York.
"It's going to be a disaster for many people who don't have a clue about what happens when a real estate bubble pops.
"It is going to be a huge mess," said Rogers, who has put his $15 million belle epoque mansion on Manhattan's Upper West Side on the market and is planning to move to Asia.
Worries about losses in the U.S. mortgage market have sent stock prices falling in Asia and Europe, with shares in financial services companies falling the most.
Some investors fear the problems of lenders who make subprime loans to people with weak credit histories are spreading to mainstream financial firms and will worsen the U.S. housing slowdown.
"Real estate prices will go down 40-50 percent in bubble areas. There will be massive defaults. This time it'll be worse because we haven't had this kind of speculative buying in U.S. history," Rogers said.
"When markets turn from bubble to reality, a lot of people get burned."
The fund manager, who co-founded the Quantum Fund with billionaire investor George Soros in the 1970s and has focused on commodities since 1998, said the crisis would spread to emerging markets which he said now faced a prolonged bear run.
"When you have a financial crisis, it reverberates in other financial markets, especially in those with speculative excess," he said.
"Right now, there is huge speculative excess in emerging markets around the world. There will be a lot of money coming out of emerging markets.
"I've sold out of emerging markets except for China," said Rogers, long a prominent China bull.
Even in China, the world's fastest expanding economy, Rogers said stocks were overvalued and could go down 30-40 percent.
But he added: "China is one of the few countries in the world where I'm willing to sit out a 30-40 percent decline."
The last stock market bubble to burst was the dot-com craze which sparked a crash from March 2000 to October 2002.
When the last bubble burst in Japan, said Rogers, stock prices went down 85 percent despite the country's high savings rate and huge balance of payment surplus.
"This is the end of the liquidity party," said Rogers. "Some emerging markets will go down 80 percent, some will go down 50 percent. Some will most probably collapse."
? Reuters 2006. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by caching, framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters and the Reuters sphere logo are registered trademarks and trademarks of the Reuters group of companies around the world.
Top investor sees U.S. property crash
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:59PM EDT
By Elif Kaban
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Commodities investment guru Jim Rogers stepped into the U.S. subprime fray on Wednesday, predicting a real estate crash that would trigger defaults and spread contagion to emerging markets.
"You can't believe how bad it's going to get before it gets any better," the prominent U.S. fund manager told Reuters by telephone from New York.
"It's going to be a disaster for many people who don't have a clue about what happens when a real estate bubble pops.
"It is going to be a huge mess," said Rogers, who has put his $15 million belle epoque mansion on Manhattan's Upper West Side on the market and is planning to move to Asia.
Worries about losses in the U.S. mortgage market have sent stock prices falling in Asia and Europe, with shares in financial services companies falling the most.
Some investors fear the problems of lenders who make subprime loans to people with weak credit histories are spreading to mainstream financial firms and will worsen the U.S. housing slowdown.
"Real estate prices will go down 40-50 percent in bubble areas. There will be massive defaults. This time it'll be worse because we haven't had this kind of speculative buying in U.S. history," Rogers said.
"When markets turn from bubble to reality, a lot of people get burned."
The fund manager, who co-founded the Quantum Fund with billionaire investor George Soros in the 1970s and has focused on commodities since 1998, said the crisis would spread to emerging markets which he said now faced a prolonged bear run.
"When you have a financial crisis, it reverberates in other financial markets, especially in those with speculative excess," he said.
"Right now, there is huge speculative excess in emerging markets around the world. There will be a lot of money coming out of emerging markets.
"I've sold out of emerging markets except for China," said Rogers, long a prominent China bull.
Even in China, the world's fastest expanding economy, Rogers said stocks were overvalued and could go down 30-40 percent.
But he added: "China is one of the few countries in the world where I'm willing to sit out a 30-40 percent decline."
The last stock market bubble to burst was the dot-com craze which sparked a crash from March 2000 to October 2002.
When the last bubble burst in Japan, said Rogers, stock prices went down 85 percent despite the country's high savings rate and huge balance of payment surplus.
"This is the end of the liquidity party," said Rogers. "Some emerging markets will go down 80 percent, some will go down 50 percent. Some will most probably collapse."
? Reuters 2006. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by caching, framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters and the Reuters sphere logo are registered trademarks and trademarks of the Reuters group of companies around the world.
SHELLY
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This article dedicated to Shelly:lol:
Top investor sees U.S. property crash
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:59PM EDT
By Elif Kaban
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Commodities investment guru Jim Rogers stepped into the U.S. subprime fray on Wednesday, predicting a real estate crash that would trigger defaults and spread contagion to emerging markets.
"You can't believe how bad it's going to get before it gets any better," the prominent U.S. fund manager told Reuters by telephone from New York.
"It's going to be a disaster for many people who don't have a clue about what happens when a real estate bubble pops.
Hell...compared to Jim, I sound like David Lereah 😀
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SHELLY
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That would also mean training their own chimps (the government) since Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, all Federal agencies, bought subprime loans as well. While they are at it, they can train the chimps that do their accounting since they seem to misreport their income. :blink:
Not as many as you think.
March 16 WSJ had an article about that. Here's an excerpt:
"For decades, the FHA was a major backer of mortgage funding for borrowers with poor credit. But the FHA’s share of the market has dropped sharply in the past decade as hordes of aggressive subprime lenders wooed away borrowers with an array of seemingly attractive options, including no-money-down mortgages and interest-only payments. The subprime players also offered faster approvals, instant home appraisals, less paperwork and fewer hassles, winning over consumers even though subprime mortgage rates were generally higher than rates for FHA-insured mortgages.
According to Inside Mortgage Finance, subprime mortgage originations, or the dollar volume of such new loans nationwide, totaled $600 billion last year, more than triple the 2002 volume of $185 billion. FHA-backed loan volume fell to $53.7 billion last year, down from $145.1 billion in 2002."

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In addition, for anyone who is interested, there is an EYE OPENING series starting today in the Charlotte (NC) Observer about how Beazer Homebuilders did some hocus-pocus to get first-time buyers to qualify for FHA-Insured Mortgages: Sold a Nightmare Now many of those buyers are finding themselves with poorly built houses, underwater in payments and facing foreclosure. Moreover, we taxpayers are going to have to make good on these loans.
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Mango
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FHA is a separate entity than Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They are much more difficult loans to get, the Bankers who are approved by them go through rigorous approval processes to get their "wings". They have been doing high LTV loans for as long as I have been in the business. They have their own appraisers who go out to the properties (also FHA approved)
As far as the Beezer article, 1) what were people expecting to get for $100K or so on a home (top of the line siding, slate roofs?) :roll:
Further, FHA has been doing 3 year rate buy downs forever. The $100 difference in payments bewteen 2 wage-earners at the end of 3 years is not considered a hardship by FHA since they expect that people will be at least getting raises according to inflation.
Then the noted family says they had wanted to get a bigger house in 5 years, then go and have the husband stay home to watch their daughter in lieu of working. Once again, poor financial decisions.
I really wonder where for $1000 a month, they thought they could live with 2 kids.
FYI- if the car wasn't in her name on the credit report and they didn't use his income, you would NOT put it on the loan application since it is not her debt.
This is just another example of people who have big dreams, but once again are fiscally irresponsible. The article doesn't tell you they probably went and bought all new furniture on credit after they closed, (of course you can't have a new house without new furniture....:roll: ) or how much their rent was prior to buying this house.
As far as the Beezer article, 1) what were people expecting to get for $100K or so on a home (top of the line siding, slate roofs?) :roll:
Further, FHA has been doing 3 year rate buy downs forever. The $100 difference in payments bewteen 2 wage-earners at the end of 3 years is not considered a hardship by FHA since they expect that people will be at least getting raises according to inflation.
Then the noted family says they had wanted to get a bigger house in 5 years, then go and have the husband stay home to watch their daughter in lieu of working. Once again, poor financial decisions.
I really wonder where for $1000 a month, they thought they could live with 2 kids.
FYI- if the car wasn't in her name on the credit report and they didn't use his income, you would NOT put it on the loan application since it is not her debt.
This is just another example of people who have big dreams, but once again are fiscally irresponsible. The article doesn't tell you they probably went and bought all new furniture on credit after they closed, (of course you can't have a new house without new furniture....:roll: ) or how much their rent was prior to buying this house.
SHELLY
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I really wonder where for $1000 a month, they thought they could live with 2 kids.
Apparently in a Beazer subdivision with the blessing of the mortgage folks and underwriters :idontno:
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SHELLY
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As far as the Beezer article, 1) what were people expecting to get for $100K or so on a home (top of the line siding, slate roofs?) :roll:
Maybe for 100K they would hope to get a dwelling that would keep the outside elements out....maybe something up to the standards of a $399 Sears garden shed (or at least the box it came it).
Just what price should a first-time homeowner expect to pay for a new house that doesn't rot and mold after 3 years?
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As far as the Beezer article, 1) what were people expecting to get for $100K or so on a home (top of the line siding, slate roofs?) :roll:
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I really wonder where for $1000 a month, they thought they could live with 2 kids.
Less than four years ago, you could have gotten a modest but nice and reasonably well built home in Freeport or Crestview for less than $100K and that same home would have sold for less than $150K in Destin or SoWal if you knew which neighborhoods to look in.
And until we refi'ed down to a 15 year mortgage a few years back, our PITI expenses were less than $1000/month.
This area used to be the place you moved to because you could live cheap by the beach.
Mango
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Less than four years ago, you could have gotten a modest but nice and reasonably well built home in Freeport or Crestview for less than $100K and that same home would have sold for less than $150K in Destin or SoWal if you knew which neighborhoods to look in.
And until we refi'ed down to a 15 year mortgage a few years back, our PITI expenses were less than $1000/month.
This area used to be the place you moved to because you could live cheap by the beach.
Perhaps so, the difference here in the article in N.C is that FHA encouraged low income housing loans, and the builder provided it. The area was one where land was still relatively cheap in comparison to others.
Apparently affordable housing seems like a damned if you or damned if you don't proposition.
Not sure of the construction of the home in their entirety, but there's such a things asinspections, even brand new ones.
I built my own house 15 years ago and there were still minor issues with construction from settling etc. that we needed to address, and I had a final inspection and warranty on the house.
I suppose what annoys me are these reporters who know nothing about the lending and construction industries reporting these stories.
Example: The reporter asks and points out to the woman who secured the loan that her income was $187 a month higher on the final typed loan application. She claims she didn't notice it.:roll:
There could be a reason the higher amount. The Banks use 2 years W2's and do an average of income. She could have had overtime and that was reflected on the final typed application which the Bank prepares. Then the Borrower resigns it at closing. You are making a legal statement when you sign the final typed app at closing. She could have opened her mouth then and how how they calculated her income. Did she? NO.
Her mortgage payments weren't going to rise for 1 full year by a percentage of which the Lender was paying for it anyway, but she still went and had the car repossessed only months after closing.
FHA approved the loan based on her income only and she qualified with just her debt ratios alone. She had a working husband too.
There was no hocus pocus going on here.
We really don't know where the mold is - could be one corner of the house from a flashing problem. :idontno: Did the reporter take pictures of anything? NO.
Too bad people hear and listen and make opinions when they do not see the whole picture, only what a reporter wants you to hear.
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Bob
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The hatchets are out! There's axes to grind!!!!!!!!!!
SHELLY
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Hi
This is jamesbrosnan
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Hi Jim,
Your writing style appears very familiar--would you happen to be affiliated with Barrister Mohammed Kazimbe from Nigeria? I'm currently coordinating transfer of $150 million from the estate of my long-lost relative Uncle Shelly who I'm told died in a Diamond Mine cave-in last year. I've sent the good Barrister $35,000 and all the access information for my banking accounts in preparation for the transfer, but haven't heard from him in about a week. Be a dear and have him give me a call.
Thanx.
Shel.
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