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Update on Yippie's Mold Ridden Home - Sad but worth reading

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Since 2005, I am still battling my builders and their insurance company. To refresh your memory, there was a number of builders defects on my house. Mainly, no moisture barrier on part of the south side, second and first floor of my home. And again other defects such as no insulation in the attic and more.

It is located approximately 1500 feet from the Gulf of Mexico in Crystal Beach, Destin. This defect, of course, was not discovered until the 2005 hurricane season after two years of horrid storms and nothing drying anywhere. Mold, mold everywhere.

I have worked with my builder and his insurance company to no avail for a year, then as they continued to delay and delay. After I complained to the Okaloosa / Walton builders associatio, I received an e-mail from one of the partners of he building company that I was a back stabbing... and they were never going to step foot on my property again.

At this time, I was forced mitigate my damages as best as I could, and tried to repair the house, financing the entire venture to the tune of several hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I filed a lawsuit over a year ago, which delay after delay has been a common problem.

The court system does not work here. The game is not to do the right thing, but to see who can make the other person go broke first.

In 8 days, I basically lose my home. Not because of non payment, the payments are current, but because now my insurance has non-renewed my policy and there is no one who is wiling insure a damaged non- repaired house. The bank is not wiling to continue to carry a mortgage on a property that is not worth the collaterial and not insured on top of it.

I have spent thousands of dollars trying to repair my home. Nothing seems to work, too many defects, code violations, etc. The mold continues to return for one reason or another, relating to the building defects of the house.

On top of it all, I am allergic to mold and I have now life long debilitating illnesses like diabetes, neuropathy and many more from living in the house as long as I did. This has limited my ability to work long hours and limited my ability to get out of bed each morning welcoming a new day. Sometimes, I don't even want to wake up and feel the constant agony each day. Even my pet was ill. At this time, I can no longer afford to seek expert medical care. It is very expensive to travel to receive care.

I am not independently wealthy and could not pick up and move out of my house and cannot afford to be doing it now. However, also, I cannot afford the financial burden of paying two mortgages, utilities, etc on a house that no one lives in and rent, utilities on a rental house to be healthy in.

Finally at the first part of December I abandoned the house and everything in it, including everything I had assembled as a symbol of my lifelong accomplishments. It is very hard to leave your life behind, very emotional. After 4 months, I am facing financial ruin. It is heartbreaking to me and would be to you if this happened to you.

This has become a very hard time for me because I have worked very hard, and been honest, and upstanding in the community regarding my business and as a resident. I can't believe this is happening to me, or to anyone. And I would not wish this on my worse enemy.

If only my builder would have stepped up to the plate and fixed the problem he caused, this would not have been a problem. Life would have gone on, not depression and an unsure futurel The lifelong problems I am facing possibly would not have been an issue.

But, the builder, who is still building houses, has changed his tune and is denying everything. He has insurance that pays for legal expenses. HOW can you deny a house built against code, especially one with NO MOISTURE BARRIER. I had walls which crumbled in my hands, construted of OSB or a similar material with NO MOISTURE BARRIER. Just vinyl siding nailed right on these walls.

Had they only come up to the plate, admitted the mistake and done what it takes to fix the problem.

Why are people like that anymore. What happened to integrity? What happened to honesty. What happened for caring for others? How can some people sleep at night.

Walking through the grocery story or any store for that matter would be helful.

Thank you for taking your time to listen to this story, but remember. The same thing could happen to you and you may be facing the same uncertain future I am.

I will welcome any comments and answer any questions posted here.

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#27
Do you have a family or friends to help you?
No.
florida girl avatar
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#28
Surely there is someone here that could step up? Any compassionate volunteers?
elgordoboy avatar
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#29
Have you followed up on the Jerry Brown suggestion? They call for details from both sides when deciding what to pursue. An avenue worth exploring I think. It sounds like you are very depressed (the never waking up thing--been there) and I am really, really sorry for you. I know it may seem insurmountable and it truly is a horrble thing to have happen but getting proactive again and living your life is a good revenge. If you cannot find any satisfaction from the builder or legal system my advice is to put it behind you and resume living. Easy for me to say I know, and I hope I never face similar circumstances.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#30
6 days is not very long, prioritize carefully!
Beach FanaticAuthor
#31
Have you followed up on the Jerry Brown suggestion? They call for details from both sides when deciding what to pursue. An avenue worth exploring I think. It sounds like you are very depressed (the never waking up thing--been there) and I am really, really sorry for you. I know it may seem insurmountable and it truly is a horrble thing to have happen but getting proactive again and living your life is a good revenge. If you cannot find any satisfaction from the builder or legal system my advice is to put it behind you and resume living. Easy for me to say I know, and I hope I never face similar circumstances.

I believe Jerry Brown received an e-mail from one of you great folks who is a godsend.

As for the other things, I don't know how to do that anymore. I am trying my best, the depression is horrible, but the pain is worse. If only it would go away. It is crippling.

When we were kids, we were cruel to call people names if they didn't look right, talk right or walk right. I will never do that again and each day, I am aologizing for ever have done that.

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Diane4145 avatar
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#32
Hopefully, the Calvaries a coming!!!:clap::clap::clap:Please keep us posted, Yippie!
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SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#33
Yippie,

I'm sorry you are going through this mess. I too get pizzed off by folks who take advantage of others for monetary gain. If what you say is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, you've been screwed over by this builder and word will get around that his product and service are inferior.

It saddens me that there's nothing we can do or say that will change your current situation; but I want you to know that I care--along with many, many others--about your welfare and safety.

Please try to get to a place where you can heal and regain your strength--that house is not a reflection of you and your spirit. Look into the stories of the successful survivors of Katrina for strength.

All of us can offer up prayers, advice and encouragement--please keep trying to help us to understand by continuing to post your feelings and your needs. People out here do care.

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#34
I know this thread has gone on forever, and thank you for all your support, but something so funny happened last night. I thought I would tell it to bring a little humor into a bad situation.

I was soooooo tied last night, I laid down and finally went to sleep. Around 4 am, I was awoken by something that sounded like someone using a weed eater.

I was so angry, working myself up to go outside and scream at this ridiculous person taking care of a lawn in the middle of the night.


THEN............I............REALIZED............. That was no weed eater, evidently I was so tired, I was SNORING!.. LOL.. Oh well, now I know my snores sound like a weed eater!
seaside2 avatar
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#35
:floor::funn::clap::rofl::rolling:
Beach FanaticAuthor
#36
I feel like sh*t. I am screwed and the builder continues to build homes below minimum substandard houses for unsuspecting consumers like you and me.

I am really bummed and not handling the situation very well. Not very well at all.

Thanks all you peepes for your support, I really need it, however, I will not forget the support and if you need me, I will drop everything to help you!

Many regards.
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#37
I feel like sh*t. I am screwed and the builder continues to build homes below minimum substandard houses for unsuspecting consumers like you and me.

I am really bummed and not handling the situation very well. Not very well at all.

Thanks all you peepes for your support, I really need it, however, I will not forget the support and if you need me, I will drop everything to help you!

Many regards.

Yippie,

To hell with the builder....what are you planning on doing next?



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Diane4145 avatar
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#38
:funn::funn::funn:Bless your heart, Yippie! That really is hilarious, though my heart still breaks, for you!:( I can't imagine investing in your home and trusting your builder, only to be screwed!:bang:What goes around, comes around! I'm highly allergic to mold, myself!
I know this thread has gone on forever, and thank you for all your support, but something so funny happened last night. I thought I would tell it to bring a little humor into a bad situation.

I was soooooo tied last night, I laid down and finally went to sleep. Around 4 am, I was awoken by something that sounded like someone using a weed eater.

I was so angry, working myself up to go outside and scream at this ridiculous person taking care of a lawn in the middle of the night.


THEN............I............REALIZED............. That was no weed eater, evidently I was so tired, I was SNORING!.. LOL.. Oh well, now I know my snores sound like a weed eater!
Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#39
Yippie,

To hell with the builder....what are you planning on doing next?



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Yippie, Listen to SHELLY! Some of your health problems may lessen once you're out of the toxic environment and then you can work on finding a way to move on with your life. Maybe it's not worth continuing to fight. Maybe just let your lawyer handle it from now on? I don't know ..... I would just hate for you to continue to constantly worry about this. Don't let the builder do that to you also.

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Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#40
Yippie,

To hell with the builder....what are you planning on doing next?



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Yippie, Listen to SHELLY! Some of your health problems may lessen once you're out of the toxic environment and then you can work on finding a way to move on with your life. Maybe it's not worth continuing to fight. Maybe just let your lawyer handle it from now on? I don't know ..... I would just hate for you to continue to constantly worry about this. Don't let the builder do that to you also.

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#41
Yippie,

To hell with the builder....what are you planning on doing next?



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I don't know yet.

Bless your heart, Yippie! That really is hilarious

somethow I am missing the humor in this. Clue me in please.
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#42
somethow I am missing the humor in this. Clue me in please.

Diane was alluding to your story about the weed eater.

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#43
Diane was alluding to your story about the weed eater.

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Oh, Sorry. I guess I am a bit touchy lately. I apologize.
Beach Comber
#44
What kind of testing do they do for mold during a home inspection?
waterst1 avatar
Beach Lover
#45
Yippie my sister is going through the same thing with her house in Michigan. She has been sick for 3 years ever since she bought the house. I think she bought one of those air cleaning machines from Sharper Image and put it in her bedroom just to improve the air while she sleeps and that helped, but those machines are expensive. The mold in her house is airborne. When she bought the house, the inspector didn't find anything of course. I have been trying to find out if there is some kind of equipment (that is affordable) that measures airborne mold on a daily basis so she can keep a watch on whatever it is that is happening.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#46
What kind of testing do they do for mold during a home inspection?
It is a separate inspection, and you want a certified mold inspector to conduct it. They take air samples at different locations inside the house, as well as outside the house. The outside samples give them a base. Send off the samples to a lab, and results are returned. FYI - most every house has mold, but in varying degrees. Sounds like Yippie has it bad. A good home inspector should be able to detect signs of mold, to determine if an actual mold test is needed, but remember the word, "good." The inspector I most often use, is also a mold inspector.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#47
Yippie my sister is going through the same thing with her house in Michigan. She has been sick for 3 years ever since she bought the house. I think she bought one of those air cleaning machines from Sharper Image and put it in her bedroom just to improve the air while she sleeps and that helped, but those machines are expensive. The mold in her house is airborne. When she bought the house, the inspector didn't find anything of course. I have been trying to find out if there is some kind of equipment (that is affordable) that measures airborne mold on a daily basis so she can keep a watch on whatever it is that is happening.

Has she looked into getting her heating/cooling ducts cleaned? It's a good hiding place for mold if it is airborne.
seaside2 avatar
Beach Fanatic
#48
Mold is everywhere, just to varying degrees. It nees the right temperature, right moisture and right amount of light (or lack thereof) to flourish. AC ducts are a popular place, around leaking or sweating pipes in walls, inside wall cavities where the inside humidity level differs significantly from the ouside humidity level, etc.

SJ is spot on with regard to a certified mold inspector. The person has to know what they are doing and ensure that the samples are acquired, handled and tested properly.

A home without a proper exterior vapor barrier can be a real problem, but based on my understanding, reading and some firsthand knowledge, the most virulent cases involve a water leak of some type (Pipe, roof, windows, etc) where there is a more constant source of water to sustain mold.
Beach FanaticAuthor
#49
What kind of testing do they do for mold during a home inspection?

There are various ways. One being the air sampling, another by drilling hold in the wall and sucking air out of them, (Not affective way because you only ge the air from that is trapped between tow studs. Sometimes where you can see the mold they conduct swab test and other times they want to cut out pieces affected areas.

It is a separate inspection, and you want a certified mold inspector to conduct it.

There is no such thing as a certified mold instectors in Florida. You are a carpet cleaning one day and the next you are a mold expert. They attend a weekend class.

Yippie my sister is going through the same thing with her house in Michigan. She has been sick for 3 years ever since she bought the house. I think she bought one of those air cleaning machines from Sharper Image and put it in her bedroom just to improve the air while she sleeps and that helped, but those machines are expensive. The mold in her house is airborne. When she bought the house, the inspector didn't find anything of course. I have been trying to find out if there is some kind of equipment (that is affordable) that measures airborne mold on a daily basis so she can keep a watch on whatever it is that is happening.

Tell her to get out and leave everything behind. Those air filters don't work, trust me

Has she looked into getting her heating/cooling ducts cleaned? It's a good hiding place for mold if it is airborne.
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Yes, we replaced the entire HVAC system, ducts are all.

A home without a proper exterior vapor barrier can be a real problem, but based on my understanding, reading and some firsthand knowledge, the most virulent cases involve a water leak of some type (Pipe, roof, windows, etc) where there is a more constant source of water to sustain mold.

There were no leaks until the walls that were built out of the OSB type product, with no moisture barrier rotted on the second floor.

I am not talking about a little mold, I am talking about a house that needs to be torn down.


Here is what the AC looked like-

http://destindir.com/abrahamresidencce8-30air.pdf

That was only part of the 200,000 trying to fix the house.
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#50
Link didn't work for pic.
ASH avatar
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#51
I too am sorry for all that you are going through.
I recall several years ago when I lived in Northern MN that got a flood in the spring that engulfed most of Lake of the Woods County on the Canadian border. It got into a local church and I got involved in the cleanup. We ended up tearing out the entire basement right to the rafters. All the insulation, drywall, duct work, cupboards and carpet. We went right to the concrete walls. Then we hired a team who sprayed down the entire area and sealed everything for a couple weeks with forced air to absolutely dry everything. Then we rebuilt it all. I worked the tear-out alone for nearly a week as I was the only one living nearby who didn't have their own problems and had the time. I ended up sick for nearly a month with breathing problems from the mold and we tore everything out within weeks of the flood and it was already that bad.

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