Everything I research and read says that Florida is gaining and will continue to gain about 900 new residents per day. They are reported to be coming from foreign countries, new birth's and migration from other States in America. The County by County projected population change shows Walton gaining about 1,925 new residents per year. This trend is expected to continue for 40 years.
Has anyone in the business ever seen a report or have personal knowledge to back this up. With most settlement historically occurring along developed roadways and particularly those along waterfront, this could be a pretty solid trend for our impending correction.
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SoWal Insider
It's still expanding, but has slowed. That's pretty typical for slow economic times. When things pick up, and with the price of housing, I'd bet we'll see big increases two years out or so.
http://news.ufl.edu/2008/03/27/florida-population-2/
http://news.ufl.edu/2008/03/27/florida-population-2/
BannedAuthor
It's still expanding, but has slowed. That's pretty typical for slow economic times. When things pick up, and with the price of housing, I'd bet we'll see big increases two years out or so.
http://news.ufl.edu/2008/03/27/florida-population-2/
I like the article. Even though it explains immediate term it still confirms the concensus. I haven't seen a lot of data on Walton County alone, but I found some.
Have you seen anything that disputes the growth range I put forward for Florida and Walton County in particular.
Beach Fanatic
I remember this article from another thread: http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1821648,00.html
I thought at the height of the boom we were getting about 1500/day. Maybe foreigners and births are making up the difference. Whatever it is, I think slower growth is a good thing, once we learn to budget with less. Unbridled growth can't be sustained. Also, when most of your growth is from retirees, it's no wonder that education spending is not a priority. If we can shift the focus to improving education, we can start to attract better jobs.
So many Northeastern transplants are leaving Florida for other states with less congestion and better education systems that they have their own nickname: Halfbacks. In 2000, Florida attracted 19% of the nation's migrating seniors; by 2006, it was only 13%. Florida still has some of America's richest ZIP codes, but it ranks among the worst states in school spending and health coverage.
I thought at the height of the boom we were getting about 1500/day. Maybe foreigners and births are making up the difference. Whatever it is, I think slower growth is a good thing, once we learn to budget with less. Unbridled growth can't be sustained. Also, when most of your growth is from retirees, it's no wonder that education spending is not a priority. If we can shift the focus to improving education, we can start to attract better jobs.
Beach Fanatic
It's still expanding, but has slowed. That's pretty typical for slow economic times. When things pick up, and with the price of housing, I'd bet we'll see big increases two years out or so.
http://news.ufl.edu/2008/03/27/florida-population-2/
I agree with this. The new pay scales for constitutional officials, which are based on population, were released last week and most pay only went up around .3-.4 percent. Monroe County, Key West, actually had a drop in pay due to population shrinking.
BannedAuthor
By casual observation I noticed more Asians and Europeans this year than I remember meeting ever before in this area.
SWGB
I'm not trying to be funny or morbid, but do they count deaths in all of this? Since Florida has such a large elderly population I would think it would, but if it doesn't that could explain why we don't really notice any gains.
Beach Fanatic
I'm not trying to be funny or morbid, but do they count deaths in all of this? Since Florida has such a large elderly population I would think it would, but if it doesn't that could explain why we don't really notice any gains.
Depending on the source, I believe any gains are supposed to be "net."
Beach Fanatic
Do the population outflows include include the gypsy vampires that tuck tail and skulk back across the State lines or just wander into the dunes to nasty away? But I guess there are some good mortgage brokers.
BannedAuthor
I'm not trying to be funny or morbid, but do they count deaths in all of this? Since Florida has such a large elderly population I would think it would, but if it doesn't that could explain why we don't really notice any gains.
I found this data. http://www.city-data.com/county/Walton_County_FL.html
I think you need to post the zip code 32459 in the dialogue box and then maybe click on Walton.
Can anyone educate me on how to properly link http to Sowal.
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Beach Fanatic
I might have missed one, but SoWal zip codes are 32459, 32461, 32413 and 32550. The 32550 is Sandestin area and that is one of the ways you can be sure it is not a Destin, Okaloosa location as Destin is 32551, or it was last I looked.
BannedAuthor
I might have missed one, but SoWal zip codes are 32459, 32461, 32413 and 32550. The 32550 is Sandestin area and that is one of the ways you can be sure it is not a Destin, Okaloosa location as Destin is 32551, or it was last I looked.
I entered 32459 in the box and then on the new screen for Santa Rosa Beach you have the choice to click on Walton County as a whole. There was a lot of interesting data there. It even answers SWGB's morbidity and mortality question....
Beach Fanatic
By casual observation I noticed more Asians and Europeans this year than I remember meeting ever before in this area.
They've been around for a while now if you know where to look. Last couple years, you hear a lot of languages other than English spoken when you walk around the outlet mall.
SoWal Insider
They've been around for a while now if you know where to look. Last couple years, you hear a lot of languages other than English spoken when you walk around the outlet mall.
...mostly from 3rd World country labor they ship in to take the clerks jobs they can't fill?
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SoWal Insider
...mostly from 3rd World country labor they ship in to take the clerks jobs they can't fill?
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Now what would be the benefit of that? Young people in the area are having a tough time finding jobs who speak English.
SoWal Insider
Now what would be the benefit of that? Young people in the area are having a tough time finding jobs who speak English.
The clerk's wages don't justify the time and expense it takes to commute to the Destin/Sandestin outlet malls from the "affordable" living areas (Freeport/FWB/PCB).
The Real Estate Money-Grab turned all the affordable apartments, homes and yes, trailer parks, into overpriced Vinyl Villages and Stucco Cities thereby forcing the service workforce population further afield. The crowded, dangerous Hwy 98 made the commute a nightmare and $3.50-$4.00 per gallon gas was the final nail in the coffin.
SWGB
I found this data. http://www.city-data.com/county/Walton_County_FL.html
I think you need to post the zip code 32459 in the dialogue box and then maybe click on Walton.
Can anyone educate me on how to properly link http to Sowal.
Generally if you have to input variables first then the output page is real time and can't be linked to as the link doesn't include the variables. Hope that helped.
Beach Fanatic
...mostly from 3rd World country labor they ship in to take the clerks jobs they can't fill?
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Different age bracket. The Czech waitresses, Brazilian lifeguards, Polish maitenance men, and Serbian grocery clerks are typically college kids spending a summer or two in America to improve language skills and earn money to pay for school expenses back home.
The outlet mall foreign language group skews more to families- lots parents and their school age kids as well as occasional grandparents.
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