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Walton County #1

Matt J avatar
SWGB
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In foreclosures.

The most dramatic increase in foreclosures came in Walton County, Santa Rosa Beach/Miramar, where the totals jumped from 263 to 1,086...a whopping 313% increase.

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/37687504.html

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Beach Lover
#2
Most are for 2nd and 3rd homes. To bad for the owners:(
Matt J avatar
SWGBAuthor
#3
Most are for 2nd and 3rd homes. To bad for the owners:(

True, Bay County is gonna kick our butts in the 2009/2010 numbers though.
Just_In_Thyme avatar
Beach Lover
#4
Not really that shocking when you consider Walton is mostly a secondary home market.
Beach Comber
#5
I'm curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.
Matt J avatar
SWGBAuthor
#6
I'm curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.

It seems a lot have been winterized and locked up. Sitting empty until the bank can come close to recovering the bad debt.
30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#7
I'm curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.

I wonder if this is total number of homes "in foreclosure" vs. homes that have ben "foreclosed on"? The numbers for Bay indicate they might the former. Not sure where the stats came from, a search of google news didn't turn anything up.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#8
So this means Walton County is in bigger trouble than anyone has admitted?
ClintClint avatar
Beach Fanatic
#9
Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of"shame" the borrower should try to avoid doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I'm not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab.
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ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10
I wonder that the numbers aren't higher than shown as this still seems to be ballooning, not stabilized. The number of abandoned or closed up empty homes is staggering.
Miss Critter avatar
Beach Fanatic
#11
I don't have stats to back this up, but I think many lenders, if not most, are delaying the foreclosure process to avoid absorbing more properties into there REO inventory. Thoughts?
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#12
I would guess that the 45 day holiday moratorium also dragged out foreclosures.

I don't know that the banks are slow because they want to keep them off the books, I think they are slow because they don't have the staff to properly process all of the foreclosures and short sales.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#13
It seems a lot have been winterized and locked up. Sitting empty until the bank can come close to recovering the bad debt.
A bunch of those houses are going to seed, too. Have you seen the blighted neighborhood of abandoned houses on the south side of 98 just east of Buddy's in Inlet Beach? The scene literally looks like a post Katrina neighborhood.
AAbsolute avatar
Banned
#14
Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of"shame" the borrower should try to avoid doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I'm not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab.

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Ah ha, an Analyst and a Therapist. The world's first Analrapist. :rolling:
ClintClint avatar
Beach Fanatic
#15
Ah ha, an Analyst and a Therapist. The world's first Analrapist. :rolling:

OOOOOH, that's gonna leave a stain.
traderx avatar
Beach Fanatic
#16
OOOOOH, that's gonna leave a stain.

Or a strain.
AAbsolute avatar
Banned
#17
OOOOOH, that's gonna leave a stain.

I confess, I'm a complete sucker for anything from Arrested Development.:blush:
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#18
Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of"shame" the borrower should try to avoid doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I'm not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab.
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punish the borrower, but recapitalize the lender?
ClintClint avatar
Beach Fanatic
#19
punish the borrower, but recapitalize the lender?

I absolutely disagree with letting the lender off the hook, but unfortunately the decision has already been made to pass it off to the taxpayers.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#20
i believe they are passing losses off to anyone willing to buy our debt and stupid enough to hang on to common stock....the future looks interesting...there's a good chance the word "default" will be morphed into pc doublespeak in the coming years, as our crushing debt will be selectively paid back under the juicy rationalization that only those aligned with uncle sam are worthy of repayment. same stupidity with entitlements...you will be "worthy" of payments if you have small net worth.
Matt J avatar
SWGBAuthor
#21
A bunch of those houses are going to seed, too. Have you seen the blighted neighborhood of abandoned houses on the south side of 98 just east of Buddy's in Inlet Beach? The scene literally looks like a post Katrina neighborhood.

Yep, but IIRC that was in progress before the market turn down.

I would guess that the 45 day holiday moratorium also dragged out foreclosures.

I don't know that the banks are slow because they want to keep them off the books, I think they are slow because they don't have the staff to properly process all of the foreclosures and short sales.

I'm wondering if they're not dragging their feet to see if a politician is going to go for a mortgage bail out. I would imagine that they can't sell off loans already off their books.

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