Back to Real Estate

Zohouri Development - Major Development It States

tivoli avatar
Beach Lover
15,044 views
Has anyone heard anything about a new development going in
Seagrove on the north side of 30-A, next to a mini-warhouse, close
to Summer's Edge? We received certified mail today in regard to
a new major development consisting of a 35 single family subdivision
with 13 townhome units, 7 live/work units and 7,875 sq.ft. of retail
space conceptual PUD on 4,743 acres with a future land use
designation of Village Mixed Use. The proposed site is located on the
north side of C.R. 30-A, east of Cypress Grove Lane and west of May Drive.
A planning commission meeting is scheduled. We received the letter in
regard to having property close by to this new development. The letter
states we're within 300 ft. of the above referenced parcel. Familiar any-
one with the above??
The name states LLC (Johnny Earles, Applicant and Connelly & Wicker, Inc.
(Ryan Christensen), Agent.

Replies

76
Beach Crab
#2
We own a lot in Heritage Dunes and have not heard anything about this development. Where is the development to be located in relation to Summer's Edge?
Kurt avatar
Admin
#3
I guess Johnny Earles and Company are the sales agents.

They are working on another development with Zohouri:
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2552"]http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2552[/ame]

Zohouri is also doing another development next to Alys Beach and Camp Creek Golf Course:
[ame="http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3430"]http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3430[/ame]

Connely and Wicker are engineers who have done lots of work in the area. http://www.cwieng.com/projects.asp.

You posted 4,743 acres - did you mean 47.34?
tivoli avatar
Beach LoverAuthor
#4
I guess Johnny Earles and Company are the sales agents.

They are working on another development with Zohouri:
http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2552

Zohouri is also doing another development next to Alys Beach and Camp Creek Golf Course:
http://www.sowal.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3430

Connely and Wicker are engineers who have done lots of work in the area. http://www.cwieng.com/projects.asp.

You posted 4,743 acres - did you mean 47.34?

Kurt,
I checked the letter out (3) three times and it states:
7,875 sq.ft. of retail space conceptual PUD on 4,743 acres with a future
land use designation of Village Mixed Use. I think it's a typo on their
part, because the figure doesn't seem right!! I'm sure they meant 47.34 too!!
This is a form letter sent out to all property owner's who live near by;
although, a real signature on the 2nd page and a overall site plan. The
name stated.....Courtyard at Seagrove.....Prepared for Zohouri Developments
Sandcastle avatar
Beach Fanatic
#5
When I was at the beach a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a lot of construction activity on the Zohouri property next to Alys Beach. Does anyone know what's planned for that location?

I own a lot in Seacrest Beach and I'm just curious.
Beach Lover
#6
I would wager that it is 4.734 acres; that gets you just under 8 residential units per acre.
Camp Creek Kid avatar
Christini Zambini
#7
I believe this is the property where Collaborations and storage units are.
STL Don avatar
Beach Fanatic
#8
I believe this is the property where Collaborations and storage units are.
That has to be right, since the letter was sent to owners in Summer's Edge which is just about across the street from there.
Kurt avatar
Admin
#9
That has to be right, since the letter was sent to owners in Summer's Edge which is just about across the street from there.

I was thinking that too, but I'd bet they are sending it out wider to get input and generate buzz.
Camp Creek Kid avatar
Christini Zambini
#10
I was thinking that too, but I'd bet they are sending it out wider to get input and generate buzz.

Except that most developers don't want to generate buzz until AFTER the project has been approved. If the buzz is negative and a lot of bees show up for the Planning Commission meeting, the developers will get stung.

The property is indeed the Collaborations property and the acreage is the 4.7 number. You can find the info. on the property appraisers website.
Kurt avatar
Admin
#11
Except that most developers don't want to generate buzz until AFTER the project has been approved. If the buzz is negative and a lot of bees show up for the Planning Commission meeting, the developers will get stung.

The property is indeed the Collaborations property and the acreage is the 4.7 number. You can find the info. on the property appraisers website.

Not the smart ones with nothing to hide, that welcome input from the community, and the brisk sales that follow.
criolla man avatar
Beach Comber
#12
Hey Folks,

I have recently enjoyed spending more time viewing the SoWal site. It's a great way to connect with the community. Good job Kurt.

The Collaborations and Storage unit sites are being planned for a new development. We asked architect, Jeff Dungan of Dungan-Nequette in Birmingham to design it. The land is zoned Village Mixed Use (12 units per acre plus commercial). We have 48 lots and the commercial is designed as 7 live/work units that create somewhat of a micro village center.

We are also donating a 25 foot swath of land to the State Forest so they can finally connect their trail system to this part of 30-A. We will have an entrance to the Greenway trail system on the southwest corner.

If y'all would like to see more, please join me at my Gulf Place office this Tuesday at 5PM. It's right next to Smiling Fish Cafe. If you can't make it, just e-mail me at johnny@jerealestate.com.

Best to all,

Johnny Earles
Kurt avatar
Admin
#13
:welcome: Johnny.


Don't be a stranger.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#14
:welcome: Johnny! We could use your input around here! Keep posting!
Paula avatar
Beach Fanatic
#15
:welcome: Johnny. Yup, keep telling us what's new.
criolla man avatar
Beach Comber
#16
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome.

I hope you can help me pass the invitation around for tomorrow afternoon at my office (@ five o'clock) and anyone is invited. And if you can't make it but are interested in looking at what Jeff has designed, please e-mail me and I will forward the images. I really like it and hope y'all do too.

Best,

Johnny
John R avatar
needs to get out more
#17
Welcome Johnny, thanks for taking a first hand approach to getting the questions answered. It would be great if more developers/reps would step up. How long after 5pm will the office be open? Not sure I can make it right then. Could you post the renderings here also?

thanks

jr
ecopal avatar
Beach Fanatic
#18
Dear Johnny,
Why would you start a big development like this when there already is a glut of property inventory on 30A? Prices are dropping and sales are almost stagnant. In fact at the current low sales rate it would take years just to sell the current properties for sale.
katie blue avatar
kt loo
#19
When I was at the beach a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a lot of construction activity on the Zohouri property next to Alys Beach. Does anyone know what's planned for that location?

I own a lot in Seacrest Beach and I'm just curious.

I'm interested in what's going there too. I assume you mean the area they clear-cut, between Alys and Camp Creek GOlf course road? Anyone know?
Beach Fanatic
#20
Dear Johnny,
Why would you start a big development like this when there already is a glut of property inventory on 30A? Prices are dropping and sales are almost stagnant. In fact at the current low sales rate it would take years just to sell the current properties for sale.

Johnny's job is to sell it. You can ask developers why they develop and every single one will tell you that they are in it to make a profit. While they would be thrilled to sell out in one hour, they are not countuing on it. People thought Robert Davis was a fool for starting Seaside.
Beach Fanatic
#21
I'm interested in what's going there too. I assume you mean the area they clear-cut, between Alys and Camp Creek GOlf course road? Anyone know?

There is a thread on it. Search for zohouri.
Camp Creek Kid avatar
Christini Zambini
#22
Dear Johnny,
Why would you start a big development like this when there already is a glut of property inventory on 30A? Prices are dropping and sales are almost stagnant. In fact at the current low sales rate it would take years just to sell the current properties for sale.


Many developers have been "stuck" with property that they bought and were in the process of developing before the slow down last year. Keep in mind that in Walton County it can take as long as 2 years to get development approval. After investing tens of thousands of dollars in engineering work, loan interest, and other development costs, most developers have no choice but to see a project through. The choice is either to go ahead with the project and hope sales pick up so it will sell, or sit on the property and lose more money. Also, development orders expire and if a developer lets this happen, its back to square one.

There are a few parcels of property for sale now that have a development order and some site work completed. These are obviously projects started by novice developers who couldn't hack the slow down and are out of money.
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#23
Many developers have been "stuck" with property that they bought and were in the process of developing before the slow down last year. Keep in mind that in Walton County it can take as long as 2 years to get development approval. After investing tens of thousands of dollars in engineering work, loan interest, and other development costs, most developers have no choice but to see a project through. The choice is either to go ahead with the project and hope sales pick up so it will sell, or sit on the property and lose more money. Also, development orders expire and if a developer lets this happen, its back to square one.

There are a few parcels of property for sale now that have a development order sand some site work completed. These are obviously projects started by novice developers who couldn't hack the slow down and are out of money.

Some developers just want to make their fixed costs back and break even. Back in the day at places along the panhandle...I remember seeing "named" subdivision entrance ways and pipes sticking out of the ground along deserted streets (maybe even a tumbleweed blowing through just for effect). Some developers have been auctioning off blocks of lots...I see a bit of a "correction" coming on.
Sandcastle avatar
Beach Fanatic
#24
I'm interested in what's going there too. I assume you mean the area they clear-cut, between Alys and Camp Creek GOlf course road? Anyone know?

I still haven't been able to find out anything about the Zohouri development we're talking about. :idontno: I'll be at the beach later in the week. Maybe someone in the coffee shop at Alys will have some info.
Gypsea avatar
Beach Fanatic
#25
:welcome: Johnny!!! Thanks for keeping us informed.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#26
This property is going to Foreclosure Auction on June 18. Details attached. Bring your cash with you to the sale, and pick up a nice piece of dirt for cheap.

Checking your forum account

Please wait while we verify your forum account.