Ms. Francis is 88 years old. She lives behind me and has owned her property since 1951.
A lot recently sold on our street.
The lot is behind Ms. Francis and borders another neighbor, who in turn is adjacent to Chat Holly.
A recent survey states that Ms. Francis owns more of my lot (I rent)- And the whole street shifts to folks owning others property (including homes).
What is the next step for Ms. Francis and owners all over Bay Oak Street?
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Ms. Francis is 88 years old. She lives behind me and has owned her property since 1951.I understand that there is aplot map that shows lots lining up as they currently have been perceived. The new sale however; does not JIVE. Wanting suggestions for attorneys for ms. Francis and friends.... and feedback. Thank you
A lot recently sold on our street.
The lot is behind Ms. Francis and borders another neighbor, who in turn is adjacent to Chat Holly.
A recent survey states that Ms. Francis owns more of my lot (I rent)- And the whole street shifts to folks owning others property (including homes).
What is the next step for Ms. Francis and owners all over Bay Oak Street?
Beach Lover
I suggest contacting Arnett & Kerrigan. They are a law firm in Grand Boulevard and they have experience in this type of situation.
850-502-4373
850-502-4373
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It isn't unusual in Walton County for roads to be on people's property, because many were built on top of existing jeep trails, and they never surveyed the property before paving. Also, some people fence their property within the border of their own property, and neighbors may mistakenly think that they own all the way to their neighbors fence.
What does Ms Francis want? Does she want to try and claim her boundaries within her fence, or is she completely happy with how she has claimed her property since 1951? Is the new lot owner claiming to own part of what Ms Francis thought was hers? Not sure of your question. If it is a boundary dispute, a consultation with a real estate attorney might be a good start if talking to the new neighbor doesn't work.
What does Ms Francis want? Does she want to try and claim her boundaries within her fence, or is she completely happy with how she has claimed her property since 1951? Is the new lot owner claiming to own part of what Ms Francis thought was hers? Not sure of your question. If it is a boundary dispute, a consultation with a real estate attorney might be a good start if talking to the new neighbor doesn't work.
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I understand that there is aplot map that shows lots lining up as they currently have been perceived. The new sale however; does not JIVE. Wanting suggestions for attorneys for ms. Francis and friends.... and feedback. Thank you
When two things jibe, they're in agreement; when they jive, they're messin' with you.
SoWal Expert
What do the other neighborhood surveys say?
Don't understand why it is a big deal (as you said you rent) unless someone is trying to enforce certain property rights or use a shady survey to do a land grab and screw an old lady.
If your street has a green sign, it's public - no matter whose property it's on.
Call a real estate attorney.
Don't understand why it is a big deal (as you said you rent) unless someone is trying to enforce certain property rights or use a shady survey to do a land grab and screw an old lady.
If your street has a green sign, it's public - no matter whose property it's on.
Call a real estate attorney.
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It isn't unusual in Walton County for roads to be on people's property, because many were built on top of existing jeep trails, and they never surveyed the property before paving. Also, some people fence their property within the border of their own property, and neighbors may mistakenly think that they own all the way to their neighbors fence.The new survey takes 30 feet from the back of her lot and extends it to 30 feet into my lot... includes the house I rent... so if she doesn't contest--- she will just be accepting the loss of 30 feet. Not cool. We are trying to help her- I thought this would be a good forum question.... but...I am moving on to records and an attorney.
What does Ms Francis want? Does she want to try and claim her boundaries within her fence, or is she completely happy with how she has claimed her property since 1951? Is the new lot owner claiming to own part of what Ms Francis thought was hers? Not sure of your question. If it is a boundary dispute, a consultation with a real estate attorney might be a good start if talking to the new neighbor doesn't work.
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When two things jibe, they're in agreement; when they jive, they're messin' with you.
Exactly, it does not jive. It is not good for Ms. Francis... and it does not JIVE.
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What is your point?
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What do the other neighborhood surveys say?
Don't understand why it is a big deal (as you said you rent) unless someone is trying to enforce certain property rights or use a shady survey to do a land grab and screw an old lady.
If your street has a green sign, it's public - no matter whose property it's on.
Call a real estate attorney.
IT is a big deal for Ms. Francis- and I am trying to help. Just because someone rents does not mean they are not invested in their community.
If she loses 30 feet in one direction and gains it in another, she gains my house. If she doesn't contest it at all, she loses 30 feet...
It seems like a worthy endeavor to look into for a friend. Moving on to an attorney and more research.
SoWal Insider
I would think your landlord would be up in arms about this (and everyone else on your side of the street) I've never heard of a 30' discrepancy in surveys.
SoWal Expert
You need to get the official surveys for YOUR lots.
Someone could be reading a survey wrong or have gotten incorrect info from a realtor - easy to do and common.
Someone could be reading a survey wrong or have gotten incorrect info from a realtor - easy to do and common.
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IT is a big deal for Ms. Francis- and I am trying to help. Just because someone rents does not mean they are not invested in their community.
If she loses 30 feet in one direction and gains it in another, she gains my house. If she doesn't contest it at all, she loses 30 feet...
It seems like a worthy endeavor to look into for a friend. Moving on to an attorney and more research.
Hi DoGood, I used to work with real estate developers in Atlanta and we had a few new surveys done over the years where the neighbors fences encroached onto our lots by 2 to 3 feet. That was usually a simple fix. We would review the new survey with the neighbor, compare it w/their survey, and it just turned out to be a previous owner had inadvertently installed a fence in the wrong location, and all parties agreed to simply move the fence. But yours is a different story for sure, 30 feet is huge and a Real Estate Attorney should be contacted for further advice. I wish I could help you further.
I hope there is a simple answer to this issue, and thank you for "Do(ing) Good" things for your neighbor and community.
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Beach Lover
She probably has title insurance. If so, she should get her insurance company involved. Usually, they will have their own attorney to handle an issue like this. This also applies to the other property owners on the street.
SWGB
She probably has title insurance. If so, she should get her insurance company involved. Usually, they will have their own attorney to handle an issue like this. This also applies to the other property owners on the street.
Umm do mean from her purchase in 1951? I would assume there's a statute of limitations and squatters rights would apply.

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With the explosive growth this area's had in the past 10 years or so, you can bet that more than one shady deal may have happened.
Staying with your neighbor and trying to help her is a very noble thing you do. Thank you:dothewave:
Staying with your neighbor and trying to help her is a very noble thing you do. Thank you:dothewave:
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