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Should we join WaterSound Beach Club??

josebby avatar
Beach Lover
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Hey all...need your thoughts on the new WaterSound Beach Club.
The club is open to all WaterSound homeowners and guests to use until June 23rd. Homeowners have until June 30th to join.

Hope you all can help us in our decision to join:

$20,000 membership fee :eek: , 85% refundable
$675/Quarter dues
Includes upscale pool with resort atmosphere (they bring drinks and ice water to your chairs, provide towels,etc), restaurant (just serving 11-5 for now), raw bar after that at FABULOUS upstairs bar overlooking the Gulf :wub: :wub: , tennis, beach access and set-ups.
Just 100 steps to our place, Bridge Lane, so could crawl home :oops:
Our guests, even renters, can have a temporary card.
ST. Joe will offer a membership to our buyer at the then current pricing.
St. Joe takes care of all shortfalls/hurricane costs.

According to St. Joe, we have this ONE TIME opportunity to join or our HOMESITE will never be able to join again. The Beach Club is meant to give beach access to WaterSound North and West Beach homeowners, but it will be several years until those homes are built.

Our thinking: we already have beach access, three pools and great view from our porch for cocktails. Do we NEED the Beach Club for our upscale renters and future resale?

Will renters demand only those condos that have Beach Club access (rentals thru St. Joe will have it)?

Will future buyers demand only those condos with Beach Club membership?

Thanks for your help!

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josebby avatar
Beach LoverAuthor
#52
I think everyone would agree that the beach and views are unbelievably beautiful at WaterSound Beach. The upfront fee of $20,000 IS an absolute bargain if you don't already have access to the beach and views.

The rub for the homeowners in WaterSound Beach is that we have ALREADY PAID for the beaches and view, plus three pools, etc. What we would get for $20,000 plus $675 quarterly is simply access to the restaurant, bar, kid friendly pool and tennis. Many homeowners are questioning the value of those amemities when beach access and views are probably the greatest value of all.
Beach Fanatic
#53
Josebby - The rub for the homeowners in WaterSound Beach is that we have ALREADY PAID for the beaches and view, plus three pools, etc. What we would get for $20,000 plus $675 quarterly is simply access to the restaurant, bar, kid friendly pool and tennis. Many homeowners are questioning the value of those amemities when beach access and views are probably the greatest value of all.

Great insight, Josebby. Then maybe the WS Beach Club will be for those exclusive few who want to be able to (and can) say that they are members or that want the personal attention of a private club?? As you just stated, owners there have access to the other ammenities with the view/beach/natural beauty and don't have to join the private club so everyone has "options"? I'm just throwing these questions out there. As I said, I was surprised by the response to the whole Beach Club issue. Is it those that can't afford the dues that are the most vocal? I don't know that, either. From the chatter I've heard of late around town and on the board, I am wondering if St. Joe needs to do something and soon to avert a PR nightmare! :shock: It's typically true that those that AREN'T happy with something speak up about it and those that are happy don't. I would like to hear from those that ARE happy with St. Joe and the WS Beach Club membership to get a realistic picture of what is really happening with St. Joe.
goofer avatar
Beach Fanatic
#54
Indigo Jill......I am a big fan of the St. Joe people at Watersound. They have treated me very fairly and have been very responsive to my concerns. They are trying their best in a tough market. Joe has only seen a bull market in real estate since they became a development company. They are now learning the reality of a bear market. They will have to adjust and learn to cope in the new environment. They will make, and have made mistakes , but they have the best properties in the panhandle so ultimately they will succeed. They are now working and communicating very well with the home and lot owners and I suspect that will continue.
As far as people not joining the beach club because they may not be able to afford the dues......that is preposterous !! People that own in Watersound are for the most part financially substantial. I think most of the owners worked very hard for their money so I think it is a question of getting value for their money. I personally don't think the beach club offers it, so I will not join. Josebby said it best in her comments. If you plan to rent out your home, then it might make sense. It is my understanding that 30 % of the homeowners will be participating in the rental program......probably the majority of the 30% will be condo owners as opposed to single-family owners. I will be starting to build my house on lot 34 in the Dune Ridge area. I have no kids, don't play tennis, and am basically a hermit !! Of course I like to drink but I will do that in my own home or on the beach at sunset and save money that I would have p...ed away at the beach club bar. Did I also say I was cheap ??
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#55
Darlene:

Yes, the beautiful beach is still free and you can still find yourself alone on a quiet beach at sunset on 30A through many months of the year (e.g., fall - winter and even some of May at our little area of 30A and I think at many other areas as well). Pretty amazing.

And you'll be happy to know that I've taught our children to never pay $2.00 for a take-out cup or can of soda pop (e.g., on trips) when you can by a case of soda pop for $3.00!

Yes, I agree with Darlene. On occasion its fun to get a bite and a frosty at Bud and Alleys at sunset, but there's nothing like being on the beach at sunset barefoot.
Favorite and unforgetable moments:

Neighbors who arrive with their homemade wagon with lights (you know who you are! You should patent it, its cool ! I want to make one too when we become neighbors! Of course in the color Mango :wub: .)

Dogs running up to you for a treat or a head pet or noogie.

The dog that while waiting for his Master to wrap up his fishing gear, walks people up and down the dune walk overs

Sharing wine, cheese and other treats with new found or existing friends.

Watching a small puppy play with a little boy and try to bite his tushy lightly.

Listening to the LOUD frog croakies as you walk back after sunset, then ask them to use their human voice - and they stop for 15 seconds :biggrin:

Yes, this is all free, the best times I ever had, and I saved money that could be better used somewhere else.
Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
#56
Very nice beach times Mango...however, dogs are required by law to be leashed at all times on SoWal beaches.
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#57
Very nice beach times Mango...however, dogs are required by law to be leashed at all times on SoWal beaches.

I have seen some leashed and then other people just let them run and go swimming even at sunset (Pippet, Pippet! , :eek: Original Jaws) I am not the beach police, but one of my neighbors is always on poop patrol, and walks around with baggies filled with paper towels so people can pick up their dog poo. I am always there off season though, and the dogs I have encountered seemed well behaved. Still. the law is the law.

Unleashed dogs I bet would be no match for Miss Kitty :cool:

Reminds me of a funny story- my neighbors dog that looks like dog from Wizard of Oz does not come on my property anymore after my 24 lb Garfiedl cat chased her back to her house about 150 yds away, then cornered her under the lattice for hours. :lol:

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Ken avatar
Beach Lover
#58
WOW - an old topic... the now called "Watersound Club" has changed quite a bit especially with Camp Creek golf and pool etc. A new course coming to Sharks Tooth also. It costs a lot more and I hear they are up to more than 5,000 members - with around $250 million in dues.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#59
I've heard the current initiation price is $100k and that's just to start paying dues. I know some old timers that bought in during the beginning and they're sure glad they didn't balk at $20k.

I believe there are different levels and areas you can join. The "Beach Club" is one entity over by the Hub and Camp Creek is a separate entity along with each golf club or you can do an "all-in" that covers all of the clubs, that may be the $100k price.
UpNorth avatar
Beach Lover
#60
It’s not that bad or big. It’s $75k initiation fee and $1150 a month. There’s like 3400 members. All memberships including the Camp Creek HOA have been collapsed into a single membership called lifestyle which gives you access to basically anything St Joe owns.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#61
It’s not that bad or big. It’s $75k initiation fee and $1150 a month. There’s like 3400 members. All memberships including the Camp Creek HOA have been collapsed into a single membership called lifestyle which gives you access to basically anything St Joe owns.

What's the minimum spend?
UpNorth avatar
Beach Lover
#62
What's the minimum spend?
No minimum. You pay the monthly dues whether you use it or not. Those cover access to everything and unlimited golf.

Stuff like food and beverage, the shooting preserve, private charter, personal trainers, etc are obviously extra.

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