An Inconvenient Truth

wow! what a wonderful community thing to do!! :clap_1: I would love to go.

Alabama Electric Company? Why not Chelco or Gulf Power?

Sounds like a great program, but this was confusing to me.....:idontno:

We began communicating with CHELCO about the event and found out that Alabama Electric Company actually produces our electricity and CHELCO purchases it from them. CHELCO is simply a coop set up years ago by citizens of Walton and surrounding counties to supply electricity to this remote area. Because CHELCO does not produce the electricity, they have arranged for a rep from AEC to come give a short presentation on how our energy is produced. The goal is to facilitate a community discussion about green forms of energy, and to create an event that will allow any member of our community to ask questions and express their desires and concerns directly with the producer of our power, AEC.

thanks for the clarification...sounds good.

welcome hanuman. glad to have you here.

I would be there, but I have to go see what the County is saying about the Redfish Village access

Here's some Truth's. In the 70's we were headed towards a new ice age. Didn't happen. What stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago... Global Warming. Al Gore did not invent the internet. He and his old boss allowed Bin Laden not to be given to US Custody pre 9/11. He had dead people vote for him in 2000. His administration allowed over a TRILLION Dollars to be stolen in the Mutual Fund/Coporate scandals in the late 90's. His old Boss now has kids believing a Blow Job isn't a Sexual Relationship. Electric Cars are as destructive as Gas powered cars.
Just maybe it could be the natural processes of our solar system that heat and cool the Earth. Sure we've done plenty to mess this planet up. And we can and should do more to limit our impact. We Americans are the biggest consumers of oil,gas,electricity,landfills and plastics the World has ever seen. We can do more too limit our impact but buyer beware of any Politicians Message of Global Warming.

You should shorten your name to just "BS"...:lolabove:

Here's some Truth's. In the 70's we were headed towards a new ice age........... and plastics the World has ever seen. We can do more too limit our impact but buyer beware of any Politicians Message of Global Warming.

I shouldn't count on seeing you there then? Hopefully you be at the BCC meeting.

Here's some Truth's. In the 70's we were headed towards a new ice age. Didn't happen. What stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago... Global Warming. Al Gore did not invent the internet. He and his old boss allowed Bin Laden not to be given to US Custody pre 9/11. He had dead people vote for him in 2000. His administration allowed over a TRILLION Dollars to be stolen in the Mutual Fund/Coporate scandals in the late 90's. His old Boss now has kids believing a Blow Job isn't a Sexual Relationship. Electric Cars are as destructive as Gas powered cars.
Just maybe it could be the natural processes of our solar system that heat and cool the Earth. Sure we've done plenty to mess this planet up. And we can and should do more to limit our impact. We Americans are the biggest consumers of oil,gas,electricity,landfills and plastics the World has ever seen. We can do more too limit our impact but buyer beware of any Politicians Message of Global Warming.

Sometimes it's painful when people you disagree with politically are correct on one particular issue. I believe the FCC should have given a bigger fine for Al and Tipper trying to dance to Fleetwood Mac than Janet Jackson's Super Bowl flash! Michael Moore looks like he's been dumpster diving behind every McDonald's he drives by. But they happen to be right about their respective political agendas.

It is not just the politicians that are sending us warnings ~ maybe we should listen. 😱

Hurricane center chief issues final warning
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A departing Max Mayfield is convinced that the Southeast is inviting disaster.

By Carol J. Williams
Times Staff Writer

January 3 2007

MIAMI — Frustrated with people and politicians who refuse to listen or learn, National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield ends his 34-year government career today in search of a new platform for getting out his unwelcome message: Hurricane Katrina was nothing compared with the big one yet to come.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-hurricane3jan03,0,3253020.story?coll=la-home-headlines

I would go to the movie JohnR and the BCC meeting but I'm leaving town for work. I'm open to seeing anything(just saw Saddam Swing) but am skeptical about most things I see and read. I take it all with a grain of salt. Mainly I was pointing out many views are believable(cept radical islam) but many should wounder what someone's agenda is attached to the message.
Too many people get their news from John Stewart,O'Reilly, Rosie without seeking other points of view. Too many people *itch about politics yet 30 some percent vote. The Media and Hollywood are not where opinions need to be obtained. People called CBS the first 2 years of Gilligan's Island to help rescue the castaways. True and Sad at the same time but shows how powerful the Media can be.
Moore's Columbine movie was a Joke. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Why doesn't the Media blame the parents of the kids who shot up that High School. Granted bullets are too cheap and anyone with 100 bucks can get a gun but it takes someone to plan and pull the trigger. But it took 2 sets of parents that raised kids without Morals whom committed the crime. The parents where complicent in the crime too in my eye.
Micheal Moore is not a Documentary Film Maker. But he's a good example of what is wrong with the Media and Hollywood today. But their not the only ones to blame. We are also complicent for slurping the $hit off the spoon they feed us with. Peace

Here's some Truth's. In the 70's we were headed towards a new ice age. Didn't happen. What stopped the ice age 10,000 years ago... Global Warming. Al Gore did not invent the internet. He and his old boss allowed Bin Laden not to be given to US Custody pre 9/11. He had dead people vote for him in 2000. His administration allowed over a TRILLION Dollars to be stolen in the Mutual Fund/Coporate scandals in the late 90's. His old Boss now has kids believing a Blow Job isn't a Sexual Relationship. Electric Cars are as destructive as Gas powered cars.
Just maybe it could be the natural processes of our solar system that heat and cool the Earth. Sure we've done plenty to mess this planet up. And we can and should do more to limit our impact. We Americans are the biggest consumers of oil,gas,electricity,landfills and plastics the World has ever seen. We can do more too limit our impact but buyer beware of any Politicians Message of Global Warming.

:lolabove: Go see the movie. I went and even if Al Gore's syrupy-sweet recollections of the stream behind his family's/Occidental Chemical's Washington DC apartme...sorry,house in Tennessee are silly, the movie is well done. I think Gore has been working on this lecture for many years, and he does a good job with it. You can make your own conclusions at the end😀

Before Katrina, Max Mayfield called all of the local LA politicians all the way up to the White House and personally told them that this was the real deal. If the politicians had listened what a difference that could have made. I wish Max good luck and hope he finds a forum where people will listen.

Before Katrina, Max Mayfield called all of the local LA politicians all the way up to the White House and personally told them that this was the real deal. If the politicians had listened what a difference that could have made. I wish Max good luck and hope he finds a forum where people will listen.

What is scarier is that Katrina actually wasn't the real deal! It weakened and turned east just before landfall. Had it continued at pre-landfall power and trajectory, skunkape would probably not be here:(

Whew ~ I for one am glad that you are still here Skunkape.

Whew ~ I for one am glad that you are still here Skunkape.

:wub: ...oh Gypsea....me, too!

BeachSteelers, I agree with a lot of what you said above. But, don't discount the message. If the movie get's people to act positively about reversing what we are doing/have done to the environment, I really don't care who is delivering the message. Travel safe.

re: Max Mayfield, it's crazy that one of the worlds preeminent scientists needs to quit his job because our government won't listen to one if it's own employees.

I would go to the movie JohnR and the BCC meeting but I'm leaving town for work. I'm open to seeing anything(just saw Saddam Swing) but am skeptical about most things I see and read. I take it all with a grain of salt. Mainly I was pointing out many views are believable(cept radical islam) but many should wounder what someone's agenda is attached to the message.
Too many people get their news from John Stewart,O'Reilly, Rosie without seeking other points of view. Too many people *itch about politics yet 30 some percent vote. The Media and Hollywood are not where opinions need to be obtained. People called CBS the first 2 years of Gilligan's Island to help rescue the castaways. True and Sad at the same time but shows how powerful the Media can be.
Moore's Columbine movie was a Joke. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Why doesn't the Media blame the parents of the kids who shot up that High School. Granted bullets are too cheap and anyone with 100 bucks can get a gun but it takes someone to plan and pull the trigger. But it took 2 sets of parents that raised kids without Morals whom committed the crime. The parents where complicent in the crime too in my eye.
Micheal Moore is not a Documentary Film Maker. But he's a good example of what is wrong with the Media and Hollywood today. But their not the only ones to blame. We are also complicent for slurping the $hit off the spoon they feed us with. Peace

"So are you saying the wrong messenger cannot speak the truth? It was the lack of media, as I recall, that had people trying to save Ginger and Mary Ann. When all you've got is two or three channels of TV and AM radio, people don't have a heck of alot to go on, do they? That's precisely how you had half a million troops in Vietnam before anyone realized maybe things were not going well. It is the proliferation of media and it's multitude of opposing viewpoints that make us a more informed and free society. They'll serve us well this week when GW does his LBJ imitation about more troops to Baghdad. God bless Al Gore for his freedom machine....the internet. And Charlton Heston is still my president.

As JohnR said, this is not a political event, but an informational one about taking care of where we live. Just chill out, shut up, go to the event, and maybe learn something new.

I agree with some of the above statements regarding listening to both sides of the issue. If nothing else, come for the discussion of energy sources. One thing that seems to be believed by both sides of the global warming issue, is that we have a growing hole in our Ozone layer, the layer which protects us against harmful radiation of the stars, including our Sun.

I had a philosophy teacher who responded with the following answer when asked whether he believed in God. In his philosophical way of answering, he stated the following. If God exists, and you believe in God, you will be okay. If God doesn't exists and you believe in God, you have no loss and no gain. If God exists and you don't believe in God, you are screwed.

I believe we can apply the same thought process to our growing hole in the Ozone Layer. I don't pretend to be a scientists and I certainly don't have enough information to be able to know what is happening with our world. However, I do know that we, myself included, are a wasteful society who do not listen to what Nature is telling us. We seem to do things because of the money behind the issue. There are plenty of natural resources which we can use to provide energy with little effect on our environment, yet we choose to go with the ones which provide money to politicians and their "friends." If we as a society can change our sources, without having much impact on our daily routine, we could improve our planet. I could give a rat's @ss about Al Gore. He is a politician, and you probably know my distaste for poli-trick-tions. However, we can be open to all sides and hopefully come away with some practical information to take back to our daily habits. Believe the reported facts or not, but try to learn and grow and be more aware of the effects which our habits place on this world in which we are nothing more than a spec of dust.

Jdarg, it's precisely that attitude I hate. I listen,read and formulate my views from a multitude of sources. I can't be there for the movie Sorry, but will at some time see it. I am socially and envirormentally sensitive person. I pick up more crap than is imaginable off the beaches. I am in favor of discussing important issues such as global warming, the ozone,clean air and water. However everyone needs to look inside themselves too see what each of us can do to better the world. Has no one heard that the space shuttle punches more holes in the ozone than man could ever hope too? Or that the Ozone was only in the news(mid 90's) cause Dupont's patent on Freon ran out and they had the patent on it's replacement. Is it not possible that global warming and cooling are a natural earthly process. Sure we're doing things all the time that are irresponsible that need to be corrected. Yet I'm not Naive enough to believe much of what Mr. Moore or Gore have to say about anything. Those 2 travel around by private jets. Mr. Gore has SUVs with sercet service at all times with him. Think he'll give that up? Maybe he shouldn't have printed his book, sure took a lot of trees to put it in print. He should have published it on his invention the Internet!
As far as shutting up.. a BIG F that to You, that's for College where free thought seems discouraged these days.
Shutting up is what discourages free flow of ideas which I will refuse to do. Maybe Al Gore should explain where all the batteries from hybrid cars are going to be landfilled. Maybe explain why during his time in office we weren't moving toward Ethanol based fuels which are cleaner. Is Brasil that much smarter than we are? Their cars( all of them) won't use gas but sugar ethanol in less than 5 years.
Go ahead shut up be sucked by the Gore/Moore propaganda film. I won't be suckered. I'll see it. But be skeptical at best. I think I know what their agenga is... to sell books and movie tickets.
JohnR, thanks I will have a good trip. Aspen for 3 weeks is always good. Sometimes work sucks but never on my snowboard in Aspen will it. And if all that snow they just got in Colorado is Global Warming then bring it on, Pow Pow turns galore for this kid. Peace

I would go to the movie but Tvland if having a "Rhoda" marathon that night.

Whew, guess BS gave me my a$$whupping for the day. My comment was meant to re-focus on what John R said in the announcement for the event- that

"This will not be a political event, but rather an opportunity for the community to come together to discuss the state of the environment both globally and locally."

This event has not even happened and already there is a negative tone. I can decide whether to be wary of the messenger or not, thank you very much. And BTW- I can't stand Michael Moore. People who use a big loud mouth and are aggressive in their positions, left or right, conservative or liberal, bug me and make me not want to "jump on board", even if i agree with their cause or opinion. Sometimes a soft sell works better.;-)

Will be being shown at Gulfplace on Jan. 11 at 6:30. Press release below.

Please join us 6:30 pm, Thursday, January 11th, 2007 on the lawn at Gulf Place for a community gathering to discuss environmental issues in Walton County. Bring your own seating and blankets as the event will be outside. Gulf Place lawn is located on the corner of Scenic Hwy 30-A and S. County Road 393 behind frontage buildings.

Contact: Jenifer Kuntz 303-819-6725
Arix Zalace 850-855-9641

D&A Maintenance has teamed up with event producer Jenifer Kuntz to facilitate a community discussion regarding environmental issues in Walton County. We will be showing An Inconvenient Truth, a slide presentation documenting global warming, followed by a roundtable discussion about Walton Counties? responsibilities as stewards of the environment. The discussion will address two points, our power and our waste.

Following the film, representatives from Alabama Electric Company and Waste Management will each give a 10-15 minute presentation about Walton Counties? current power, and waste/recycling programs. After which the audience will take part in a Q&A discussion with the representatives. We will be investigating/understanding where our power comes from, what constitutes green energy and is it in our future. And, where does our garbage go, what sort of recycling does Walton County have, and can we implement a more comprehensive recycling program.

This will not be a political event, but rather an opportunity for the community to come together to discuss the state of the environment both globally and locally.

Additional sponsors and guests will have informational booths. Guests include Sundog Books offering topic related literature, For the Health of it serving natural snacks and beverages, Tiahrt Lopez Construction sharing green building practices, D&A Maintenance educating guests on home efficiency, as well as several others.

Kudos to those taking the time to organize a showing and discussion of this film for the community. :clap_1: