Hillary On Dave Last Night

Missed it. Not really, but I didn't watch it.

Saw it and thought it was funny!!! I enjoy when politicians don't feel the need to take themselves too seriously all the time.

Saw it and thought it was funny!!! I enjoy when politicians don't feel the need to take themselves too seriously all the time.

They probably took notes from Bob Dole, who looked much too serious and uptight until he was out of the Race. He then went on Letterman and loosened up a bit, and seemed much more personable.

Sorry I missed Hillary. I think she is trying to loosen up and show the public she does have a humorous side.
She's a smart woman and she'll certainly give the other candidates a run for their money!

Saw it and thought it was funny!!! I enjoy when politicians don't feel the need to take themselves too seriously all the time.

Me too. Maybe I can take a lesson from that. I too sometimes have that tendency.

Why do women seem to hate her so much? I don't understand why women don't step up to the plate and support one of their own, with all the talk about needing a woman to run the country. What is wrong with Hillary? Is it the jealousy thing that always seems to pop up when a strong woman excels? You know, when women say they admire a strong woman but call her a Bee I Tee See H behind her back?

I hope I don't offend any SoWal ladies but I honestly would like to know if there is a reason women don't like her. Is it her personality, or something specific she's done? If the former keeps her from the White House then maybe we're not ready for a female president. If the latter, spill.

IMO.. it is because she forgave her hubby. Most women think she should have dropped him like a bag of poo but I think most women dont want to think that maybe she just really does love the guy (thus making her look weaker than she is) or maybe ...she just doesnt care what he does. Which even further proves, she is a strong, self-sufficient, woman. To be honest, I have never met a strong, self-sufficient, woman that wasnt a B****.

Why do women seem to hate her so much? I don't understand why women don't step up to the plate and support one of their own, with all the talk about needing a woman to run the country. What is wrong with Hillary? Is it the jealousy thing that always seems to pop up when a strong woman excels? You know, when women say they admire a strong woman but call her a Bee I Tee See H behind her back?

I hope I don't offend any SoWal ladies but I honestly would like to know if there is a reason women don't like her. Is it her personality, or something specific she's done? If the former keeps her from the White House then maybe we're not ready for a female president. If the latter, spill.

Just so ya know, you just made me scream aloud. Thank you, daddy-o.

I think she did not drop her husband because their goals, programs and hopes remain her sincere concern, sometimes you have to want to kill the "messenger"! Being an older female, I have always thought Hillary rocked. If she can survive and emerge what she has been through, she can be an excellent president with one hand tied behind her back.

Amen, sista ;-)

Thanks, no one every said that to me before!!!!!

Why do women seem to hate her so much? I don't understand why women don't step up to the plate and support one of their own, with all the talk about needing a woman to run the country. What is wrong with Hillary? Is it the jealousy thing that always seems to pop up when a strong woman excels? You know, when women say they admire a strong woman but call her a Bee I Tee See H behind her back?

I hope I don't offend any SoWal ladies but I honestly would like to know if there is a reason women don't like her. Is it her personality, or something specific she's done? If the former keeps her from the White House then maybe we're not ready for a female president. If the latter, spill.

It is partly her personality, but mostly the fact that she comes into the race with so many people hating her. I would prefer to see a less polarizing Democratic candidate. I am mostly worried that Hillary getting the nomination will let the Republicans turn the election into a nasty free for all- since she can provide them with more "ammunition" than any other candidate. So while she may be the one that many Dems will choose, she is not the one that will win over moderates. And it's the moderates that we need to be aiming for- we really need a candidate that won't make them recoil.

It is partly her personality, but mostly the fact that she comes into the race with so many people hating her. I would prefer to see a less polarizing Democratic candidate. I am mostly worried that Hillary getting the nomination will let the Republicans turn the election into a nasty free for all- since she can provide them with more "ammunition" than any other candidate. So while she may be the one that many Dems will choose, she is not the one that will win over moderates. And it's the moderates that we need to be aiming for- we really need a candidate that won't make them recoil.

I don't hate Hillary, and I think Kurt made some valid observations.
I *so* wish we sisters would pull together instead of fighting the mommy wars, hissing at Hillary etc etc.
However, I agree with everything Jdarg says above.
Some people really detest All Things Clinton, and always will.

In my circle of female friends and co-workers, there is no one who dislikes her! They are completely supportive. I find it's the men who bash her. It was because of Hillary why so many voted for Bill in the first place, including myself.

I don't like her. I volunteered for her husband's campaign in college and had the chance to meet her, and she seemed very unappealing. She doesn't connect with people. She also doesn't bring anything new to the table.

It's the last point that bothers me most. While I love the idea of a female president, I would hate if the first woman got there by her association with a man, by name recognition and the popularity of her husband. And, honestly, if Hillary Clinton was Hillary Rodham Smith and her husband was a dentist you'd never heard of, would she be polling as well? That is the very antithesis of feminism, so I really don't want to hear any of this 'sisters stick together' thing. Nepotists stick together I'm cool with...

I don't choose a candidate based on gender, race, religion or party. Republicans would probably love for Hillary to be the Democratic candidate. A woman voting for Hillary just because she is a woman is akin to a woman voting for the cutest candidate in my book.

Thanks, no one every said that to me before!!!!!

In my circle of female friends and co-workers, there is no one who dislikes her! They are completely supportive. I find it's the men who bash her. It was because of Hillary why so many voted for Bill in the first place, including myself.

Me too.

Why do women seem to hate her so much? I don't understand why women don't step up to the plate and support one of their own, with all the talk about needing a woman to run the country. What is wrong with Hillary? Is it the jealousy thing that always seems to pop up when a strong woman excels? You know, when women say they admire a strong woman but call her a Bee I Tee See H behind her back?

I hope I don't offend any SoWal ladies but I honestly would like to know if there is a reason women don't like her. Is it her personality, or something specific she's done? If the former keeps her from the White House then maybe we're not ready for a female president. If the latter, spill.

We are ready!!! She is the most prepared. Thanks so much for posing this question, kurt. Your opinion is highly respected.

IMO.. it is because she forgave her hubby. Most women think she should have dropped him like a bag of poo but I think most women dont want to think that maybe she just really does love the guy (thus making her look weaker than she is) or maybe ...she just doesnt care what he does. Which even further proves, she is a strong, self-sufficient, woman. To be honest, I have never met a strong, self-sufficient, woman that wasnt a B****.

I've heard this too. He's always seemed to respect her except for his mistakes. Aren't we all sinners? Aren't we supposed to try and forgive if someone asks us for it? ;-)

When I vote for Hillary it will be because I believe she is the best candidate. She has the most experience. She's was raised Republican. She is open-minded, and has been civic-minded since youth. She has worked hard to get where she is today. Imagine how hard, ya'll. :scratch: She studied law in college. Worked hard while also raising her daughter and was an excellent first lady and now senator of NY. Then to have your every move scrutinized. My goodness, I 'm exhausted just thinkin' about how hard she has worked, and all the criticism she has endured. She is very strong, and the smartest most prepared of all the candidates. That's why I will vote for her not because of the fact that she is a woman, though that does make me excited for women and girls who would to see this in thier lifetimes. If the woman is the best prepared candidate, why not?

Did ya'll hear? If she wins we all get a cupcake on HER birthday.

I wonder if there is a democratic sister company to Haliburton which could supply cupcakes for the population at $100 each?

For any of you Hillary lovers out there, please share with us which particular programs that Hillary supports (& that other candidates don't support) that you agree with.

I'm sure she would have more morals and ethics than that. :nono1: Equal pay for equal work is one of the programs I support of hers.

I'm sure she would have more morals and ethics than that. :nono1: Equal pay for equal work is one of the programs I support of hers.

What is equal pay for eqaul work?

The insurance reforms that she pushed during the Clinton administration are programs that should have been pursued rather than treated with disregard as they most certainly were.

I'll decide whether to vote for her when she steps up and is more clear on her policies. She seems to run from campaign adversity because she's the front-runner. I suspect she does not want to lose the left of center base. Does anyone smell something fish-like over the power struggle concerning Florida's Jan 15 primary date????

I'm sure she would have more morals and ethics than that. :nono1: Equal pay for equal work is one of the programs I support of hers.

Honey, they are professional politicians and if you think they have morals, well, I have a bridge to Africa to sell you. I think most candidates support equal pay for work if you are referring to sex. Now if equal pay for business owners and employees it the program, well that just doesn't make sense.

I am trying to understand what you guys think makes Hillary a unique candidate (policy-wise).

Why do women seem to hate her so much? I don't understand why women don't step up to the plate and support one of their own, with all the talk about needing a woman to run the country. What is wrong with Hillary? Is it the jealousy thing that always seems to pop up when a strong woman excels? You know, when women say they admire a strong woman but call her a Bee I Tee See H behind her back?

I hope I don't offend any SoWal ladies but I honestly would like to know if there is a reason women don't like her. Is it her personality, or something specific she's done? If the former keeps her from the White House then maybe we're not ready for a female president. If the latter, spill.

Part of it is personality. She's a cuddly as a cactus, she's a charming as an eel... If I had to pick a female president right now, I'd fight to the death for Condi just on the Likability factor.

I also don't like Hillary because I've always thought she was full of hot air. She talks and talks about how things should be done, but hasn't done much with her ideas but talk about them. You have a picture of her with Diana, who didn't just talk about children with AIDS or the problems with landmines; she went and did something about it herself. Laura Bush has used her position to work against illiteracy rather than just saying that someone should do something about it. (In all my grad school classes, teachers are cussing "No Child Left Behind," but they rave about Laura's Teach for America program, even with the kinks that are still in it.) Nancy Reagan was the one telling us to "just say no," and she jumped in herself rather than "just saying." Even Tipper Gore got in there and fought hard for what she thought was right. Hillary's White House Biography talks more about how she "advocates" health care reform, but I just remember that it was a big fat mess. I never got the feeling that she was willing to get her hands dirty. I want a little less conversation, a little more action, please.

I've already said more than I want to say about "politricks" for the rest of the year, but I'll put this up and y'all can throw darts at it if you want:

Daddy-O, you're asking about feminism. I think that's why I compared her to Condi. To me, Hillary has always been a power-hungry man in a pantsuit. Condi is a high-heel & skirt wearing, Beethoven-playing woman. If you're going to put a woman in the White House, put a woman in the White House. Feminism isn't about burning bras; it's about a woman being able to accomplish the same goals as a woman. I admire all the other women I mentioned because they seem to embrace being feminine while being strong; Hillary seems to be a house divided against herself in that respect, and because of that I do not trust her leadership.