Most OK with birth control at school, poll finds
67 percent support handing out contraceptives, but qualms remain
Nov. 1, 2007
WASHINGTON - People decisively favor letting their public schools provide birth control to students, but they also voice misgivings that divide them along generational, income and racial lines, a poll showed.
Sixty-seven percent support giving contraceptives to students, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll. About as many ? 62 percent ? said they believe providing birth control reduces the number of teenage pregnancies.
"Kids are kids," said Danielle Kessenger, 39, a mother of three young children from Jacksonville, Fla., who supports providing contraceptives to those who request them. "I was a teenager once and parents don't know everything, though we think we do."
Yet most who support schools distributing contraceptives prefer that they go to children whose parents have consented. People are also closely divided over whether sex education and birth control are more effective than stressing morality and abstinence, and whether giving contraceptives to teenagers encourages them to have sexual intercourse.
"It's not the school's place to be parents," said Robert Shaw, 53, a telecommunications company manager from Duncanville, Texas. "For a school to provide birth control, it's almost like the school saying, 'You should go out and have sex.'"
Those surveyed were not asked to distinguish between giving contraceptives to boys or girls.
The survey was conducted in late October after a school board in Portland, Maine, voted to let a middle school health center provide students with full contraceptive services. The school's students are sixth- through eighth-graders, when most children are 11 to 13 years old, and do not have to tell their parents about services they receive.
Opt-out policy considered
Portland school officials plan to consider a proposal soon that would let parents forbid their children from receiving prescription contraceptives like birth control pills.
Teenage pregnancy rates have declined to about 75 per 1,000, down from a 1990 peak of 117, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a research center. Still, nearly half of teens aged 15 to 19 report having had sex at least once, and almost 750,000 of them a year become pregnant.
The 67 percent in the AP poll who favor providing birth control to students include 37 percent who would limit it to those whose parents have consented, and 30 percent to all who ask.
Minorities, older and lower-earning people were likeliest to prefer requiring parental consent, while those favoring no restriction tended to be younger and from cities or suburbs. People who wanted schools to provide no birth control at all were likelier to be white and higher-income earners.
"Parents should be in on it," said Jennifer Johnson, 29, of Excel, Ala., a homemaker and mother of a school-age child. "Birth control is not saying you can have sex, it's protecting them if they decide to."
About 1,300 U.S. public schools with adolescent students ? less than 2 percent of the total ? have health centers staffed by a doctor or nurse practitioner who can write prescriptions, said spokeswoman Divya Mohan of the National Assembly of School-Based Health Care. About one in four of those provide condoms, other contraceptives, prescriptions or referrals, Mohan said.
Less than 1 percent of middle schools and nearly 5 percent of high schools make condoms available for students, said Nancy Brener, a health scientist with the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Underlining the schisms over the issue, those saying sex education and birth control were better for reducing teen pregnancies outnumber people preferring morality and abstinence by a slim 51 percent to 46 percent.
Younger people were likelier to consider sex education and birth control the better way to limit teenage pregnancies, as were 64 percent of minorities and 47 percent of whites. Nearly seven in 10 white evangelicals opted for abstinence, along with about half of Catholics and Protestants.
Split on encouragement issue
In addition, 49 percent say providing teens with birth control would not encourage sexual intercourse and a virtually identical 46 percent said it would.
Though men and women have similar views about whether to provide contraceptives to students, women are likelier than men to think it will not encourage sexual intercourse, 55 percent to 43 percent.
Asked when young people should first be allowed to get birth control, ages 16 and 18 drew the most responses, while only a third chose age 15 or younger. Women's selections averaged just over age 16, slightly higher than men, while young people and Westerners preferred younger ages than others.
"I'd be pulling my kids out of that school," Ron Wrobel, 55, an engineer from Port Huron, Mich., said of the Maine middle school. He said birth control should be for teens at least 17 years old.
Mirroring the rift that has played out in countless battles in Congress, Democrats were likelier than Republicans to favor freer access to birth control and to have more faith that it reduces teenage pregnancies. Forty-five percent of Republicans _ including 51 percent of GOP women _ say birth control should not be provided to any students, compared to 19 percent of Democrats.
The poll involved telephone interviews with 1,004 adults from Oct. 23-25. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
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61SoWal ExpertAuthor
I don't have a problem w/ schools distributing birth control such as condoms, but I question them becoming involved in prescribing medication w/ potentially large side effects - as in birth control pills.
Also note that the survey just asked about general birth control, it didn't distinguish between free condoms and prescription medicine.
Also note that the survey just asked about general birth control, it didn't distinguish between free condoms and prescription medicine.
SoWal Expert
In Portland, a child must first have parental permission to see the school nurse for anything. If the child is sick, I am sure the parent is going to be aware of it and will take the child to the family doctor. If the child says "I need permission to go to the school nurse" without a reason, then I guess something's up, huh?;-)
This part of the story was included when this first broke- the initial outrage was that once a child had parental permission to see the school nurse, then he/she could see the nurse and receive contraception without any further parental involvement. Of course the media kinda jumped over this part and made it sound like condoms were being passed out like Halloween candy.
If my kid came home and asked for my permission to see the school nurse, I would kinda know what was going on.:roll:
This part of the story was included when this first broke- the initial outrage was that once a child had parental permission to see the school nurse, then he/she could see the nurse and receive contraception without any further parental involvement. Of course the media kinda jumped over this part and made it sound like condoms were being passed out like Halloween candy.
If my kid came home and asked for my permission to see the school nurse, I would kinda know what was going on.:roll:
SoWal ExpertAuthor
I'm all for birth control & sex ed, I just find the whole idea of a school being "the doctor" weird. Can of medical liability worms just got cracked WIDE open IMO. Is the school going to be screening the health of these kids, doing follow up exams, getting family history, dealing with insurance etc?
I thought that if you were treating a minor, you had to get guardian permission and the guardian also had the right to know about your medical issues?
Didn't understand how on last week's Private Practice she could give an exam and run tests on an 11 year old w/o parental consent but couldn't tell the parent about her findings.
I thought that if you were treating a minor, you had to get guardian permission and the guardian also had the right to know about your medical issues?
Didn't understand how on last week's Private Practice she could give an exam and run tests on an 11 year old w/o parental consent but couldn't tell the parent about her findings.
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Beach Fanatic
How could it possibly hurt anyone?
It might help save a child's childhood.
IJS...one can always opt out.
It might help save a child's childhood.
IJS...one can always opt out.SoWal ExpertAuthor
Prescription medicine that messes w/ your moods and increases your chances for heart attacks or stroke can definitely hurt someone.
Prescription medicine that can involve a judgment call about whether it should be used by women who smoke, have migraines, gallbladder disease, hypertension, diabetes, epilepsy, sickle cell disease, elective surgery, a history of blood clots, liver or heart disease can definitely hurt someone.
I'm not saying that the pill is bad or that contraceptives are bad, just that because of the potential for misuse or complications it should be something dealt with by your doctor (who knows your medical history) and monitored.
A kid who can't be upfront enough or mature enough to see their family doctor or discuss it with their parent or guardian is not going to be upfront about their medical history or responsible enough to be able to use it effectively.
Prescription medicine that can involve a judgment call about whether it should be used by women who smoke, have migraines, gallbladder disease, hypertension, diabetes, epilepsy, sickle cell disease, elective surgery, a history of blood clots, liver or heart disease can definitely hurt someone.
I'm not saying that the pill is bad or that contraceptives are bad, just that because of the potential for misuse or complications it should be something dealt with by your doctor (who knows your medical history) and monitored.
A kid who can't be upfront enough or mature enough to see their family doctor or discuss it with their parent or guardian is not going to be upfront about their medical history or responsible enough to be able to use it effectively.
Beach Fanatic
I thought it was condoms they would be handing out. 

SWGB
I definitely think that condoms should be handed out in schools, as for the pill issue I'm not sure. I don't think it's so much a health risk as I searched and the side effects aren't life threatening:
bleeding between periods
weight gain
nausea
breast tenderness
headaches
mood changes
blood clots (usually occur only in women over 35 who smoke)
However, I don't agree with the pill as it takes care of the issue of pregnancy, but it does not address the issue of STD's. I don't feel that kids are informed or experienced enough to understand the ramifications of STD's. When I was a kid the issue wasn't STD's as we all assumed no one had any, but pregnancy which the pill generally stops.
bleeding between periods
weight gain
nausea
breast tenderness
headaches
mood changes
blood clots (usually occur only in women over 35 who smoke)
However, I don't agree with the pill as it takes care of the issue of pregnancy, but it does not address the issue of STD's. I don't feel that kids are informed or experienced enough to understand the ramifications of STD's. When I was a kid the issue wasn't STD's as we all assumed no one had any, but pregnancy which the pill generally stops.
Beach Fanatic
Prescription medicine that messes w/ your moods and increases your chances for heart attacks or stroke can definitely hurt someone.
Prescription medicine that can involve a judgment call about whether it should be used by women who smoke, have migraines, gallbladder disease, hypertension, diabetes, epilepsy, sickle cell disease, elective surgery, a history of blood clots, liver or heart disease can definitely hurt someone.
I'm not saying that the pill is bad or that contraceptives are bad, just that because of the potential for misuse or complications it should be something dealt with by your doctor (who knows your medical history) and monitored.
A kid who can't be upfront enough or mature enough to see their family doctor or discuss it with their parent or guardian is not going to be upfront about their medical history or responsible enough to be able to use it effectively.
Lets not stray too far off the topic. This is the school NURSE we are talking about here mostly, not the school doctor or the school gynecologist. The article said that nationally on about 2% of the schools had a doctor of nurse practitioner who could write prescriptions, of those only 25% wrote prescriptions to anything. They did not give a statistic as to if any wrote prescriptions for birth control pills. Nurses cannot prescribe medicine. Suggesting that the school nurse is writing and filling prescriptions is a little overboard.
For my 2 cents, I would much rather the school nurse distribute over the counter birth control than discover the need to stock baby formula in the high school book store. Teenagers will be teenagers. They also need to graduate from high school and grow up a bit before considering children, in my opinion.
Education, abstinence and availability of birth control are the best ways to keep teenagers safe from STDs and unwanted pregnancies. I think that without the first the other two are not likely preventatives.
bean
. I don't feel that kids are informed or experienced enough to understand the ramifications of STD's. When I was a kid the issue wasn't STD's as we all assumed no one had any, but pregnancy which the pill generally stops
8th Grade Health just about covers it ALL.
SoWal Insider
You just wouldn't believe the pregnant girls I see waddling out of school at the end of each day. Just makes me sick. My son informed me that there is a nursery for them to drop off their older kids. Wouldn't you think that would be enough to make the others stop and think?????
And hey, the pill doesn't prevent STD's.
And hey, the pill doesn't prevent STD's.
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bean
You just wouldn't believe the pregnant girls I see waddling out of school at the end of each day. Just makes me sick. My son informed me that there is a nursery for them to drop off their older kids. Wouldn't you think that would be enough to make the others stop and think?????
And hey, the pill doesn't prevent STD's.
You are kidding right?
Beach Fanatic
You just wouldn't believe the pregnant girls I see waddling out of school at the end of each day. Just makes me sick. My son informed me that there is a nursery for them to drop off their older kids. Wouldn't you think that would be enough to make the others stop and think?????
And hey, the pill doesn't prevent STD's.
Apparently, it has not, but if we could some how work 2 a.m. feedings and colic into the program, I imagine that would probably do it.
SoWal Insider
Apparently, it has not, but if we could some how work 2 a.m. feedings and colic into the program, I imagine that would probably do it.They have those computerized doll-babies that they take over a 3 day period. Boy, what a pain that was for a group that my son was in a few months ago. They were all so ticked that she had to bring "it" with them everywhere they went, complete with a car seat, stroller, diaper bag. And "Peyton" (doll's name) did awaken each night to be fed or changed. I told them, "Oh, if you only knew."
SoWal Insider
uh, no I'm not. Sad.You are kidding right?
SWGB
8th Grade Health just about covers it ALL.
True, I remember the "slide show of the damned", but again we are in such a "take a pill and forget it" society that I would be afraid that kids would just assume that the pill takes care of the pregnancy and assume that someone saying something like "I've never done anything before" suddenly makes them immune to STD's. Basically - kids are stupid, just put a barrier between them that can stop most everything.
Beach Fanatic
Maybe we need to teach our kids right from wrong.

Beach Fanatic
Maybe we need to teach our kids right from wrong.
Outstanding idea and it puts the decision right where it ought to be...
SoWal Expert
Outstanding idea and it puts the decision right where it ought to be...
Which is a great idea, and we will teach our kids, and you will teach your kids, but who is going to teach all the kids whose parents don't think like we do? Sadly, you can't force parents to "parent", so the slack is going to have to picked up another way. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make all children have good parents (or any parents for that matter). It's just unrealistic to expect all learning to go back to the home...
Beach Fanatic
Which is a great idea, and we will teach our kids, and you will teach your kids, but who is going to teach all the kids whose parents don't think like we do? Sadly, you can't force parents to "parent", so the slack is going to have to picked up another way. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make all children have good parents (or any parents for that matter). It's just unrealistic to expect all learning to go back to the home...[/quote]
I hear you loud and clear and agree, but............................................. who is going to do it? I made a bit of a fuss on another thread about day care, learing from paid keepers, etc. The problem is, as you say, not everyone thinks and acts like "us".
Not a lot of good answers out there.
Think I'll stick my head in the sand for a few days.
Beach Fanatic
Maybe we need to teach our kids right from wrong.
Now here's an idea to consider. We are pathetic at teaching our kids the 3 R's but lets go a little further and teach them about birth control.
Beach Lover
What is really pathetic is all the people that seem to not mind the government passing out birth control of any sort. When did parents abdicate their responsibility to society to the government? I read nothing but criticism and insults hurled at the way government is run on this board, yet some of these same people have no problem with those that run government handling their children's health issues? Sheesh! Talk about scary.
SoWal Expert
What is really pathetic is all the people that seem to not mind the government passing out birth control of any sort. When did parents abdicate their responsibility to society to the government? I read nothing but criticism and insults hurled at the way government is run on this board, yet some of these same people have no problem with those that run government handling their children's health issues? Sheesh! Talk about scary.
No, the scary thing is that there are so many children who don't have anybody to handle their health issues. Thank God for the government to help the kids who don't have responsible, sane, sober, caring, or otherwise involved parents.
SWGB
I agree with jdarg. I also feel that as humans we need to grow up and realize that telling kids "don't touch yourself", "sex is for married people", and "your going to hell" really don't seem to work too well.
Meow
I agree with jdarg. I also feel that as humans we need to grow up and realize that telling kids "don't touch yourself", "sex is for married people", and "your going to hell" really don't seem to work too well.
You forgot about the blindness.
Beach Fanatic
For my 2 cents, I would much rather the school nurse distribute over the counter birth control than discover the need to stock baby formula in the high school book store. Teenagers will be teenagers. They also need to graduate from high school and grow up a bit before considering children, in my opinion.
So true. They live in the moment and that is the nature of the beast.
So true. They live in the moment and that is the nature of the beast.
You just wouldn't believe the pregnant girls I see waddling out of school at the end of each day. Just makes me sick. My son informed me that there is a nursery for them to drop off their older kids. Wouldn't you think that would be enough to make the others stop and think?????
First I heard of that, but should not be surprised.
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No, the scary thing is that there are so many children who don't have anybody to handle their health issues. Thank God for the government to help the kids who don't have responsible, sane, sober, caring, or otherwise involved parents.
It is good that someone helps children who have irresponsible, selfish parents. I just wish schools only responsibility was to educate. So much time is spent on personal issues that should have been taught at home, that edcating takes a backseat.
You forgot about the blindness.
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