In honor of this frosty morning, and in case you missed it on the news, recent comments on the topic by the founding father of The Weather Channel:
Wednesday, November 07, 2007
Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ?Greatest Scam in History?
By John Coleman
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an illusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the ?research? to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.
Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild ?scientific? scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.
I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, ie Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you ?believe in.? It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won?t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.
I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.
In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.
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Beach Fanatic
How could this guy have any credibility? He's never been invited to a Barbara Streisand party! I bet he has never even met with Hugo Chavez!! Come on Skunky...you'll have to do better than that. Gimme something that someone like...say...Ruth Buzzie says...then I'll believe it!
Meow
...who knew the secret to finding 3b was GLOBAL WARMING????
back!
Beach Fanatic
Right on, 30A Skunkape, right on. As a former AF weather observer and pilot, I couldn't agree with him more.
Beach Fanatic
That's not what the natives at the North Pole say 
Yeah,
back B3!!! 
;-) Beach Fanatic
My Eskimo friend Nanook says he loves the warmer weather. He's always wanted lakefront property.
Yeah,
SoWal Insider
The oil war crew is buzzing about.
SkunkyAuthor
The oil war crew is buzzing about.
You know, your comment got me to thinking about a grand rounds I attended my last year at Tulane. A nephrologist (kidney specialist) gave a lecture on table salt's role in leading to essential hypertension. He had a powerpoint full of graphs, data, etc. When he was finished the audience had a chance to ask questions as is the tradition. A cardiologist who specialized in congestive heart failure questioned the entire premise that salt does anything other than create a temporary rise in blood pressure and proceeded to shred the nephrologist's data and facts. They debated (vigorously), and finally the nephrologist was sick of debating and said to the cardiologist "It is obvious that you have read the propaganda put out by 'big salt'!". He actually said it, 'big salt'. So, a few points I would like to apply to the global warming debate: First-How is it that there is no 'consensus' on salt's effect on hypertension in a microsphere like the human body, yet there is 'consensus' that human activity is leading to global warming on the macro scale? Second, why is it that when there is legitimate debate, some people are so tempted to intellectually cash out and blame the big corporations for producing bad data that clouds the water, so to speak.
Beach Fanatic
hmmmm......can't remember
1) If the globe is warming, where's all the @#$%! water? I am back to filling up the landfills with plastic bottles because I don't want to refill them from my precious well.
2) Why the @#$%! should I believe anyone who tells me what's going to happen with the weather in ten years when I can't find anyone who can consistently predict the weather TOMORROW?
My dad and I have an ongoing game of comparing our weather reports--I get mine off the computer, and he gets his off the local news and the Weather Channel. Although all three are supposedly from the Weather Channel, it's not unusual for us to come up with 3 different forecasts.
Silliness...
2) Why the @#$%! should I believe anyone who tells me what's going to happen with the weather in ten years when I can't find anyone who can consistently predict the weather TOMORROW?
My dad and I have an ongoing game of comparing our weather reports--I get mine off the computer, and he gets his off the local news and the Weather Channel. Although all three are supposedly from the Weather Channel, it's not unusual for us to come up with 3 different forecasts.
Silliness...
Beach Fanatic
1)
My dad and I have an ongoing game of comparing our weather reports--I get mine off the computer, and he gets his off the local news and the Weather Channel. Although all three are supposedly from the Weather Channel, it's
not unusual for us to come up with 3 different forecasts.
Silliness...
Are you Averaging the Answers? 
Beach Fanatic
Just a wore or two on Global Warming and forecasting the weather. First of all, I don't doubt that at this particular point in time, the earth might be warming. Whether it is due to man's actions is another question. For man to be so arrogant as to think he has the capability to change climates is quite an assumption. Why do I say this? All you really need to do is be caught in Mother Nature's grasp once or twice to really understand how infinitesimal man is when compared to the forces of Mother Nature. As noted above, forcasters can't agree on tomorrow's weather sometimes, let alone years down the road. Climatology and weather forcasting are still inexact science and forcasters use different techniques to make their forecasts. Let me give an example. When I received a forecast for a flight and there was some doubt as to its accuracy in my mind, I would ask the forecaster if I could see his upper air charts. After looking at them I would make up my mind as to the accuracy of his forecast. Was I always right? No, but I was using the expertise I had been taught as a Rawindsonde operator. The point is, weather personnel, like others, have their preferences for the information used in their predictions and consequential actions.
Beach Fanatic
So you don't think man's constant auto emissions have any negative effect on the environment? Isn't every action followed by an opposite and equal reaction?
Isn't every action followed by an opposite and equal reaction? 
Beach Fanatic
I just don't understand what the big deal for us to all try to cut back and be respectful of our environment. I am and have been torn on the global warming issue for awhile but do not see the harm in helping mother nature out a little. This is not a conservative/liberal issue. It is a common sense issue. The above report concerns me as much as all the other data. What do you believe? Next week someone will tell us John Coleman made a bunch of money to write that. Who knows? I know one thing for sure, it would not hurt us to cut back and clean up. The water is getting dirty. That is a fact. Thanks for the post Skunk. I like to raise my children with some hope!
SkunkyAuthor
Bobby, nobody in their right mind thinks we shouldn't strive to 'keep it clean'. That is common sense and indeed a moral obligation. My beef is with those who have politicized the issue as well as those who want to plunge headlong into disastrous ideas like Kyoto. As a reminder, here is the Kyoto clock. http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.htm
Beach Fanatic
hmmmm......can't remember
No. We play eenie meenie minie moe.
All you really need to do is be caught in Mother Nature's grasp once or twice to really understand how infinitesimal man is when compared to the forces of Mother Nature. As noted above, forcasters can't agree on tomorrow's weather sometimes, let alone years down the road. Climatology and weather forcasting are still inexact science and forcasters use different techniques to make their forecasts.Right on. It cracks me up that they think they can predict this with less than 100 years of accurate information about the weather.
So you don't think man's constant auto emissions have any negative effect on the environment?
I just don't understand what the big deal for us to all try to cut back and be respectful of our environment. I am and have been torn on the global warming issue for awhile but do not see the harm in helping mother nature out a little. This is not a conservative/liberal issue. It is a common sense issue.
As an asthmatic who gets allergy shots, yes I think it has an impact. I think we will kill ourselves before we'll actually kill the planet, though. And I think that if we don't want to kill ourselves, we should clean our rooms.
Bobby, nobody in their right mind thinks we shouldn't strive to 'keep it clean'. That is common sense and indeed a moral obligation.
Gore said that the debate is over. I missed the debate altogether. (Which is actually okay with me.)
SkunkyAuthor
Worth the read:
http://homepages.tesco.net/~kate-and-david/2007/Holland(2007).pdf
Too many words; pictures of polar bears on thin ice or stock footage of hurricanes are far more effective
;-)Meow
Who do I blame for having to turn the AC on in the middle of November? No menopause jokes, please. :roll:
Beach Fanatic
Amen, sista Kit-tay! My ceiling fan was just turned on hi.
hmmmm......can't remember
Who do I blame for having to turn the AC on in the middle of November? No menopause jokes, please. :roll:
Same person we've blamed for years. I've always been a convertible girl, and have always had the top down well into December. I had it down today, in fact. But now I'm shivering in front of the furnace at home.
I like having seasons, even if they're all in one day!
Beach Fanatic
So you don't think man's constant auto emissions have any negative effect on the environment?
No, every action is not followed by an opposite and equal reaction. Where did you come up with that one? Sounds like a quote from Hillary.
Beach Fanatic
I just don't understand what the big deal for us to all try to cut back and be respectful of our environment. I am and have been torn on the global warming issue for awhile but do not see the harm in helping mother nature out a little. This is not a conservative/liberal issue. It is a common sense issue. The above report concerns me as much as all the other data. What do you believe? Next week someone will tell us John Coleman made a bunch of money to write that. Who knows? I know one thing for sure, it would not hurt us to cut back and clean up. The water is getting dirty. That is a fact. Thanks for the post Skunk. I like to raise my children with some hope!
Absolutely agree!
Beach Fanatic
No. We play eenie meenie minie moe.
Right on. It cracks me up that they think they can predict this with less than 100 years of accurate information about the weather.
As an asthmatic who gets allergy shots, yes I think it has an impact. I think we will kill ourselves before we'll actually kill the planet, though. And I think that if we don't want to kill ourselves, we should clean our rooms.
Gore said that the debate is over. I missed the debate altogether. (Which is actually okay with me.)
What is very interesting to me is that 30 short years ago, many leading climatologists were predicting a return to an ice age due to global cooling at the time.
Beach Fanatic
No, every action is not followed by an opposite and equal reaction. Where did you come up with that one? Sounds like a quote from Hillary.
Here's a link.
Uh, it's one of Newton's Laws~http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/newton.html ;-) You may remember this from science class.
BTW, I'm a person with my own ideas and feelings. I am not related to Hillary by blood. I just find myself defending her when what I hear doesn't jive, when it is totally f627in' horse hockey. Why is she being drug in on my little ole comment on this thread? I find it pathetic that you would be mean to me because you know I like Hillary. Its just really sad and hurtful, but that's another thread again. :sick: Do your homework before you put me down in public, mister fisher.
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Beach Fanatic
Here's a link.
Uh, it's one of Newton's Laws~http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/newton.html ;-) You may remember this from science class.
BTW, I'm a person with my own ideas and feelings. I am not related to Hillary by blood. I just find myself defending her when what I hear doesn't jive, when it is totally f627in' horse hockey. Why is she being drug in on my little ole comment on this thread? I find it pathetic that you would be mean to me because you know I like Hillary. Its just really sad and hurtful, but that's another thread again. :sick: Do your homework before you put me down in public, mister fisher.
Kristi! 
Loved that you stuck up for yourself with such class!
Is Global Warming real? Well the weather sure has been strange - and I do tend to agree with the simple statement from SK "everyone action has an equal reaction."
I try to do my part, little by little. It is good for my wallet, and good for the world - whether that good is seen is ten years, 20 years or more I don't know. But if we each make a little effort.. what can it hurt?
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