Dear Friend,
In Bali, Indonesia thousands of delegates from nearly 190 countries have gathered at the UN Conference on Climate Change.
In ten days, I will address the conference to urge the adoption of a visionary new treaty to address global warming and I want to bring your voices with me.
I will bring your signatures on stage with me as a clear demonstration of our resolve.
Together, we will call on the US government to assume a new leadership role in solving the climate crisis.
World leaders including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and newly elected Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd have all agreed to aggressively battle the climate crisis - yet our country still lags behind.
Over the next ten days, I would like you to help me get people from across the country to sign our message to the global community. We can demonstrate that the American people understand the immediacy of the climate crisis and want to work with the nations of the world to solve it. Time is short - we need to mobilize everyone to bring this message to Bali.
The American people want a visionary treaty to address climate change and for the US government to play a positive leadership role in its development.
Thank you,
Al Gore
P.S.After signing the petition, please urge your friends and family to sign the petition and join the movement.
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149Beach Fanatic
Thanks, Lightworker. Okay, I signed it. In the memo I asked him to please run with Hillary. 
Beach Lover
I heard that one of the scientist that received the Nobel Peace Prize (along side Al Gore) gave it back. This is unconfirmed. Just wondering if anyone else heard this.
Beach Fanatic
On what stance?
Skunky
Thousands of delegates burning hundreds of thousands of gallons of jet fuel to tell us knuckleheads to quit using so much gas. I feel chillier already:roll:
Beach Fanatic
Dear Friend,
In Bali, Indonesia thousands of delegates from nearly 190 countries have gathered at the UN Conference on Climate Change.
In ten days, I will address the conference to urge the adoption of a visionary new treaty to address global warming and I want to bring your voices with me.
I will bring your signatures on stage with me as a clear demonstration of our resolve.
Together, we will call on the US government to assume a new leadership role in solving the climate crisis.
World leaders including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and newly elected Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd have all agreed to aggressively battle the climate crisis - yet our country still lags behind.
Over the next ten days, I would like you to help me get people from across the country to sign our message to the global community. We can demonstrate that the American people understand the immediacy of the climate crisis and want to work with the nations of the world to solve it. Time is short - we need to mobilize everyone to bring this message to Bali.
The American people want a visionary treaty to address climate change and for the US government to play a positive leadership role in its development.
Thank you,
Al Gore
P.S.After signing the petition, please urge your friends and family to sign the petition and join the movement.
Wonder how he will be getting there. Solar powered airplane?
Beach Lover
Like I said i'm not 100% , but I believe it was because he felt the evidence was not clear on whether the current global warming trend was a naturally occurring cycle or caused by man.
Skunky
Well, you can't accuse this crew of picking a bad location for a global warming conference. The average November temperature in Bali is 27.8 Celsius (about 82 degrees). Can't have this hot air conference in:
North Dakota which is experiencing record setting snowfall http://www.kxmb.com/News/187023.asp
or...
Maine, where a 107 year snowfall record has just been tied http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/019270.html
What a waste of good jet fuel
North Dakota which is experiencing record setting snowfall http://www.kxmb.com/News/187023.asp
or...
Maine, where a 107 year snowfall record has just been tied http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/019270.html
What a waste of good jet fuel
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SoWal Guide
Well, you can't accuse this crew of picking a bad location for a global warming conference. The average November temperature in Bali is 27.8 Celsius (about 82 degrees). Can't have this hot air conference in:
North Dakota which is experiencing record setting snowfall http://www.kxmb.com/News/187023.asp
or...
Maine, where a 107 year snowfall record has just been tied http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/019270.html
What a waste of good jet fuel
oh, go stuff it in your hat skunky-poo!
only kidding.
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Beach Fanatic
Tootsie, too cute.
SWGB
I signed it.
It always kills me that something like heavy snowfall triggers a "global warming is a hoax" crowd, but rediculously hot temperatures keeps them quit. I subscribe to the climate change theory. This means that you can have warming and freakish winters or strange erradic weather in general, i.e. record snowfalls after a record hot summer.
It always kills me that something like heavy snowfall triggers a "global warming is a hoax" crowd, but rediculously hot temperatures keeps them quit. I subscribe to the climate change theory. This means that you can have warming and freakish winters or strange erradic weather in general, i.e. record snowfalls after a record hot summer.
Beach Fanatic
Thank you, gaiboi. 
The voice of reason.
Global warming triggers climate change. Which does not mean it is hot all the time everywhere. Why is that so hard to understand?
The voice of reason. Global warming triggers climate change. Which does not mean it is hot all the time everywhere. Why is that so hard to understand?
SoWal Insider
Well, you can't accuse this crew of picking a bad location for a global warming conference. The average November temperature in Bali is 27.8 Celsius (about 82 degrees). Can't have this hot air conference in:
North Dakota which is experiencing record setting snowfall http://www.kxmb.com/News/187023.asp
or...
Maine, where a 107 year snowfall record has just been tied http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/019270.html
What a waste of good jet fuel
;-)
Punzy sez we do think alike...Skunky
Thank you, gaiboi.
Global warming triggers climate change. Which does not mean it is hot all the time everywhere. Why is that so hard to understand?
As the ancient Greeks blamed Zeus, American Indians blamed Thunderbirds and the Norse chalked it up to Thor, I suppose it is only right we have our own weather related mythology
Beach Fanatic
So -- IF Global Warming is all some big scam and we all treat the world and enviroment better because we bought into the scam --- what would be the outcome?
Oh yeah. Cleaner air, water, alternate energy sources ... who wants that stuff?
Oh yeah. Cleaner air, water, alternate energy sources ... who wants that stuff?
Skunky
So -- IF Global Warming is all some big scam and we all treat the world and enviroment better because we bought into the scam --- what would be the outcome?
Oh yeah. Cleaner air, water, alternate energy sources ... who wants that stuff?
It isn't a big scam, it is just junk science injected into politics resulting in a green monster run wild.
Please let me know what these guys propose we do that will have a notable impact on climate change? Kyoto is the biggest gun in the arsenal to fight global warming as I understand it;I also think it will cost us tons of money without achieving the logical endpoint of 'cooling' the Earth. Please consult the Kyoto Clock. Ouch! http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.html
Beach Fanatic
Economists have been trying to analyse the overall net benefit of Kyoto Protocol through cost-benefit analysis. Just as in the case of climatology[citation needed], there is disagreement due to large uncertainties in economic variables.[86] Some of the estimates indicate either that observing the Kyoto Protocol is more expensive than not observing the Kyoto Protocol or that the Kyoto Protocol has a marginal net benefit which exceeds the cost of simply adjusting to global warming.[citation needed] However, a study in Nature[87] found that "accounting only for local external costs, together with production costs, to identify energy strategies, compliance with the Kyoto Protocol would imply lower, not higher, overall costs."
The recent Copenhagen consensus project found that the Kyoto Protocol would slow down the process of global warming, but have a superficial overall benefit. Defenders of the Kyoto Protocol argue, however, that while the initial greenhouse gas cuts may have little effect, they set the political precedent for bigger (and more effective) cuts in the future.[88] They also advocate commitment to the precautionary principle. Critics point out that additional higher curbs on carbon emission are likely to cause significantly higher increase in cost, making such defence moot. Moreover, the precautionary principle could apply to any political, social, economic or environmental consequence, which might have equally devastating effect in terms of poverty and environment, making the precautionary argument irrelevant. The Stern Review (a UK government sponsored report into the economic impacts of climate change) concluded that one percent of global GDP is required to be invested in order to mitigate the effects of climate change, and that failure to do so could risk a recession worth up to twenty percent of global GDP.[89]
The full [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol"]wikipedia article [/ame]is really interesting. Personally I think this is a step in the right direction but that doesn't mean it is the only answer -- or even the best answer.
Beach FanaticAuthor
Thanks, Lightworker. Okay, I signed it. In the memo I asked him to please run with Hillary.
I signed it.
It always kills me that something like heavy snowfall triggers a "global warming is a hoax" crowd, but rediculously hot temperatures keeps them quit. I subscribe to the climate change theory. This means that you can have warming and freakish winters or strange erradic weather in general, i.e. record snowfalls after a record hot summer.
Thanks 
SWGB
As the ancient Greeks blamed Zeus, American Indians blamed Thunderbirds and the Norse chalked it up to Thor, I suppose it is only right we have our own weather related mythology
Well that's just
. I don't ever remember seeing the totem pole with scientific data on it. Perhaps you could find that pic for me? To equate tons of verifiable, reproducible, and in some cases tested; research and data to "thunder gods" is rediculous.If I'm following that logic then 30-A is just like Branson cause people like to go there.
Skunky
Well that's just
If I'm following that logic then 30-A is just like Branson cause people like to go there.
OK, so 100% of the research and data supports the CO2 equals global warming hypothesis? That isn't how I understand it;perhaps you can cite a study that elevates the 'theory' to a 'law'. Let me save you a trip to Google...none exist.
Is it possible that Al Gore is right? Yes. But extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence and that evidence does not yet exist. People get very emotional because politics have been injected into this and hyperbole fans the flame of debate among well meaning people.
Please view this clip, I think there is an analagous relationship to the global warming petition. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw"]YouTube - Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition[/ame]
Beach Fanatic
It seems the people who want to deny global warming are also the ones driving the fat ass Yukons, pouring Co2 emissions into the atmosphhere, and at the same time stuffing the pockets of radical armed Muslims in oil producing countries. They want to deny both the cause and the effect.
Beach Fanatic
It seems the people who want to deny global warming are also the ones driving the fat ass Yukons, pouring Co2 emissions into the atmosphhere, and at the same time stuffing the pockets of radical armed Muslims in oil producing countries. They want to deny both the cause and the effect.
Skunky
It seems the people who want to deny global warming are also the ones driving the fat ass Yukons, pouring Co2 emissions into the atmosphhere, and at the same time stuffing the pockets of radical armed Muslims in oil producing countries. They want to deny both the cause and the effect.
I drive a 1997 Honda Civic and bet you I have a smaller carbon footprint than you do. Want to put your theory to the test?
Beach Lover
You made the mistake of using reason and those who deny global warming exists don't often utilize that principle.
So -- IF Global Warming is all some big scam and we all treat the world and enviroment better because we bought into the scam --- what would be the outcome?
Oh yeah. Cleaner air, water, alternate energy sources ... who wants that stuff?
Skunky
You made the mistake of using reason and those who deny global warming exists don't often utilize that principle.
Nobody denies we are experiencing a warming trend. Those with intellectual curiousity wonder if there is an explanation other than the hypothesis that mankind is to blame. Isn't that reasonable?
Beach Lover
I think it's ironic that Al Gore Sr. was vice president and member of the board of directors for Occidental Petroleum Co. and member of the board of petroleum and coal companies.
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