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Just curious to hear more comments on Mitt. I have a good suspicion that he will win the GOP and Presidency. Pres Bush has also somewhat hinted at his preference, by allowing Mitt to announce his candidacy at Bush Sr's Library. He looks fiscally good when you look at his business history (so did Ross Perot :funn:, but that didn't get him anywhere). He looks the part, and people can pronounce and spell his name (stop laughing -- you don't think Kucinich could ever win, do you?). He is political enough to appear concerned and caring, and should slip right back into poliTRICKS without a problem. He's a member of the LSD, I mean LDS Church, and his Great, Great Grand Father supposedly helped to create the "religion." (isn't it fascinating that someone can create their own religion?) That will turn some voters off, but likely only the extreme Southern Baptists. About the only dirt you can find on the guy has to do with a few things he said in the past, for which he later apologized. There was that thing with the Olympic Committee paying out bribes in order to get the Olympics, but I think Romney stepped in to run things after that, and he turned their bank account around to the positive side. Oops. Almost forgot about Gov Romney requiring Mass residents to purchase Health Insurance or face penalities. For his own sake, I hope he doesn't sling that mud at Sen Clinton too much regarding her wanting it required for all Americans. That could get him into trouble. Thus far, it has just been called partisan politics.

Mitt may be on target to win it all, but what if he slips one of those Howard Dean Yeeeeeahawwwws? Who then, will take over his place? Is he strong enough to beat out the Dem nominee, Sen Clinton? (Edwards is laughable and Obama doesn't stand a chance in this particular race at this time -- maybe down the road, but I doubt voters will buy into his politics, even though he looks like a smooth candidate otherwise) Is Mitt centered enough to win it all? I think so. With Sen Clinton as the opposition in the big race, she will have voters running to the polls to vote for Mitt.

What do you like or dislike about Milton "Mitt" Romney as a Presidential Candidate?:idontno:

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NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
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Just curious to hear more comments on Mitt. I have a good suspicion that he will win the GOP and Presidency. Pres Bush has also somewhat hinted at his preference, by allowing Mitt to announce his candidacy at Bush Sr's Library. He looks fiscally good when you look at his business history (so did Ross Perot :funn:, but that didn't get him anywhere). He looks the part, and people can pronounce and spell his name (stop laughing -- you don't think Kucinich could ever win, do you?). He is political enough to appear concerned and caring, and should slip right back into poliTRICKS without a problem. He's a member of the LSD, I mean LDS Church, and his Great, Great Grand Father supposedly helped to create the "religion." (isn't it fascinating that someone can create their own religion?) That will turn some voters off, but likely only the extreme Southern Baptists. About the only dirt you can find on the guy has to do with a few things he said in the past, for which he later apologized. There was that thing with the Olympic Committee paying out bribes in order to get the Olympics, but I think Romney stepped in to run things after that, and he turned their bank account around to the positive side.

Mitt may be on target to win it all, but what if he slips one of those Howard Dean Yeeeeeahawwwws? Who then, will take over his place? Is he strong enough to beat out the Dem nominee, Sen Clinton? (Edwards is laughable and Obama doesn't stand a chance in this particular race at this time -- maybe down the road, but I doubt voters will buy into his politics, even though he looks like a smooth candidate otherwise) Is Mitt centered enough to win it all? I think so. With Sen Clinton as the opposition in the big race, she will have voters running to the polls to vote for Mitt.

What do you like or dislike about Milton "Mitt" Romney as a Presidential Candidate?:idontno:

Yes.

(And don't think I missed the crack about the extreme Southern Baptists, either, even though I'm a good little Presbyterian these days.)
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OK- part 2 of this question- who should/could/will be his running mate?
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#4
Call me irrational, but I don't think America is ready for a president named "Mitt." (Just thinking about the comedic limericks boggle the mind.)

(Ditto for Huckabee.)
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Smiling JOe avatar
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#5
Yes.

(And don't think I missed the crack about the extreme Southern Baptists, either, even though I'm a good little Presbyterian these days.)
Coming from an upbringing of Southern Baptists, surely I can tease about the "extreme" Southern Baptists. If they think the Methodists are bad, and the Presbyterians are the devil, don't you know what they think about the Catholics? How about Muslims? Jews? (hey, wasn't Jesus a Jew?) Buddhists? Agnostics? Hindus? Atheists? Pagans? Mormons? They are all going to Hell unless they convert to Southern Baptist. :funn: Sorry :blush:, I got carried away. Back to your thoughts on Mitt...

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I was totally nuetral on him for a long time...but...I really disliked him after his speech on his Mormon Faith. Instead of enlightening the public about specifics of Mormonism (I think he mentioned it only once), he spun the majority of the speech into a diatribe about not recognizing any other religions except "Christianity."

He came off saying, in essence, you have to be "religious" to truly be an American. I think it was a total ploy to avoid the issue totally and win Iowa away from Huckabee, and, at the same time, winning over some Huckabee supporters who think Mormonism is really just a cult.

Is Rove working for him now?
hnooe avatar
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#7
OK- part 2 of this question- who should/could/will be his running mate?

Mattel's Barbie? :rolling:
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#8
OK- part 2 of this question- who should/could/will be his running mate?
That's a very good question, and I haven't seen any clues. I imagine he or she won't be coming from the current Presidential Race.
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#9
He may be smooth, attractive, and can handle a buck well, but he has no real plan for getting us out of Iraq, and his SPF proposal sounds naive and lacks an understanding of the Middle East.
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#10
I was totally nuetral on him for a long time...but...I really disliked him after his speech on his Mormon Faith. Instead of enlightening the public about specifics of Mormonism (I think he mentioned it only once), he spun the majority of the speech into a diatribe about not recognizing any other religions except "Christianity."

He came off saying, in essence, you have to be "religious" to truly be an American. I think it was a total ploy to avoid the issue totally and win Iowa away from Huckabee, and, at the same time, winning over some Huckabee supporters who think Mormonism is really just a cult.

Is Rove working for him now?
Interesting thoughts. He did buy into Bill Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy. Maybe if Bill Clinton had only stuck to his philosophy, he would have avoided all of his problems regarding Monica Lewinsky. In my opinion, Bill should have said that sex is a personal preference, and told people to mind their own business. That is exactly what Mitt did regarding his addressing of Mormonism. Trying to explain a religion at a Press Conference? I don't think even a preacher could do that, and if they do, you best beware.
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#11
Call me irrational, but I don't think America is ready for a president named "Mitt." (Just thinking about the comedic limericks boggle the mind.)

(Ditto for Huckabee.)
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^^^Ditto.
hnooe avatar
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#12
Call me irrational, but I don't think America is ready for a president named "Mitt." (Just thinking about the comedic limericks boggle the mind.)

(Ditto for Huckabee.)
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We could refer to him as "Mittens," like his Mom does...:D
hnooe avatar
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#13
Interesting thoughts. He did buy into Bill Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy. Maybe if Bill Clinton had only stuck to his philosophy, he would have avoided all of his problems regarding Monica Lewinsky. In my opinion, Bill should have said that sex is a personal preference, and told people to mind their own business. That is exactly what Mitt did regarding his addressing of Mormonism. Trying to explain a religion at a Press Conference? I don't think even a preacher could do that, and if they do, you best beware.

In retrospect, that analogy is absolutely correct, Smiling.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#14
Coming from an upbringing of Southern Baptists, surely I can tease about the "extreme" Southern Baptists. If they think the Methodists are bad, and the Presbyterians are the devil, don't you know what they think about the Catholics? How about Muslims? Jews? (hey, wasn't Jesus a Jew?) Buddhists? Agnostics? Hindus? Atheists? Pagans? Mormons? They are all going to Hell unless they convert to Southern Baptist. :funn: Sorry :blush:, I got carried away. Back to your thoughts on Mitt...
That has come up before (today, I think!) I don't reckon you consider yourself any more Southern Baptist than I do today, right? But it's like being from Georgia--if I really want to I can cleanse myself completely of my gentle drawl and southern ways, but I really resent it when anyone suggests that I should. That said...>>
I was totally nuetral on him for a long time...but...I really disliked him after his speech on his Mormon Faith. Instead of enlightening the public about specifics of Mormonism (I think he mentioned it only once), he spun the majority of the speech into a diatribe about not recognizing any other religions except "Christianity."

He came off saying, in essence, you have to be "religious" to truly be an American. I think it was a total ploy to avoid the issue totally and win Iowa away from Huckabee, and, at the same time, winning over some Huckabee supporters who think Mormonism is really just a cult.
>>>...Huckabee skeers me a lot worse than Romney. I'd rather have a Mormon than an extreme evangelical wack-job.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#15
Interesting thoughts. He did buy into Bill Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy. Maybe if Bill Clinton had only stuck to his philosophy, he would have avoided all of his problems regarding Monica Lewinsky. In my opinion, Bill should have said that sex is a personal preference, and told people to mind their own business. That is exactly what Mitt did regarding his addressing of Mormonism. Trying to explain a religion at a Press Conference? I don't think even a preacher could do that, and if they do, you best beware.

You're absolutely right--that is the best way to handle it.

But no one is really going to buy it because when it really counts human beings do not separate their core values from their business/politics. Romney stood up there and said (I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy/busy to look it up right now) that his religion had nothing to do with what he would do in the White House. Part of me said, "Yeah, right," another part said, "I hope that's not true," and the another part of me wondered what he would say when his church really put the screws down.
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>>>...Huckabee skeers me a lot worse than Romney.
True dat.
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#17
He looks like a movie star. :D Wonder if he could run with Hillary or is that against the 'law', for a Republican and Democrat to be in office at the same time? Seems like the bipartisanship could be a good thing for everybody!
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>>>...Huckabee skeers me a lot worse than Romney. I'd rather have a Mormon than an extreme evangelical wack-job.

I really have to go with that. I don't really care what religion a president is, but I'd rather not hear about it every two seconds. I'm so over our current president who has "talks with god" (see hearing voices) and then translates said talks into policy.

I don't think that Mitt or Huckabee have much of a chance. Huckabee will appeal to the ultra conservatives by pointing out his "liberal" tendencies. Just as Mitt may point out Huckabee short comings (can't think of any as I haven't really researched him I'm not voting for him anyway) and eventually they will tear each other down to the point no one is paying attention anymore.

Just my 2 cents.
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#19
Call me irrational, but I don't think America is ready for a president named "Mitt." (Just thinking about the comedic limericks boggle the mind.)

(Ditto for Huckabee.)
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Plus, Romney carried the family dog in the car's roof top carrier while traveling on cross country family vacations! :lol: How bizarre is that?!

(Oops, sorry, not a political view)
Mango avatar
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#20
He looks like a movie star. :D Wonder if he could run with Hillary or is that against the 'law', for a Republican and Democrat to be in office at the same time? Seems like the bipartisanship could be a good thing for everybody!

and maybe they can have Lassie as their White House pet or the Ghecko on those commercials to complete the whole package. :floor:
I just spewed my coffee and my pumpkin pie.

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NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#21
I really have to go with that. I don't really care what religion a president is, but I'd rather not hear about it every two seconds. I'm so over our current president who has "talks with god" (see hearing voices) and then translates said talks into policy.

We all do that in some way or another, though. We're a basically religious country. Even our atheists go about it religiously.

We go with our guts and justify it whichever way we can. Bush has just been niave enough to admit his process. Another president would have done the same thing his own way. Clinton found a way to do absolutely nothing, which is dangerous in its own special way. Jimmy Carter is one of those Southern Baptists, and he is scary in a completely unpredictable way. Recently, Time ran a story about the religious statements coming from Her Royal Hillary, Edwards, and Obama.

I could go on and on. It all boils down to which one of them can reconcile what they believe with the best decisions for the country. As was stated in an earlier thread, we're left choosing the lesser of evils.

But isn't that how it has always been? The biggest difference between this election and the 1908 election is that Taft and Bryan didn't have the media in their faces 24/7. The country had to wait more than 20 minutes to hear every syllable they've ever uttered.
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...his religion had nothing to do with what he would do in the White House. Part of me said, "Yeah, right," another part said, "I hope that's not true," and the another part of me wondered what he would say when his church really put the screws down.

He is in a bind in that respect. His, not to distant, relative, helped start the Church, so he has to at least have a little belief. If he is like most Americans, he believes in God, but doesn't live with the religion as a daily focus, even if it does set the moral values for our society. If he says that he is not very religious, he will lose more votes than he would by saying he was Mormon. Notice that he tends to use the Church of Latter Day Saints, so it doesn't sound so removed from Christianity. Some of the Mormon beliefs align with most of the other worldly religions. Most people, including myself, don't know much about it, other than they send people out on bicycles wearing black slacks and black ties, in the heat of the summer to spread the Word.

All candidates have similar problems with different issues. Sen Obama is 1/2 black. (surprise.) He has strong beliefs in programs such as Affirmative Action, which would ordinarily win him much of the black vote. (feels weird saying, "black vote," but that is how they the politicians think of it.) The problem for Sen Obama is that if he pushes issues like Affirmative Action onto the table, he will lose much of the "white vote," and he knows that he will need more than the "black vote" to win. So, he has to appear to be more white than black regarding his stance on social issues. When he does speak to the black voters, you can bet money that he will push his "blackness" to the forefront. He has the unique characteristic of being a true politician as his father was "black [SIZE=-1]as pitch, my (Obama) mother white as milk," this coming from his autobiography. The difference between him and Sen Clinton is that he looks smoother pulling off the white/black thing. [/SIZE]
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#23
I could go on and on. It all boils down to which one of them can reconcile what they believe with the best decisions for the country. As was stated in an earlier thread, we're left choosing the lesser of evils.

Ironic you should mention this because MANgo and I were discussing this right before dinner tonight. Huckabee wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Where do you draw the line between your religious beliefs and what is the best choice for this countrys' citizens? :idontno:
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SoWal ExpertAuthor
#24
Plus, Romney carried the family dog in the car's roof top carrier while traveling on cross country family vacations! :lol: How bizarre is that?!

(Oops, sorry, not a political view)
Discussing personal characteristics of the candidate is fine by me. I will just add that only in an extreme case will you see my dogs in a carrier on the roof of my car, but I would do that before I would throw them into the belly of a commercial jet, or leaving them with a crappy kennel. The top of the car isn't much different from the back of the pickup truck.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#25
Ironic you should mention this because MANgo and I were discussing this right before dinner tonight. Huckabee wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Where do you draw the line between your religious beliefs and what is the best choice for this countrys' citizens? :idontno:
We're never going to figure that one out, are we?

I heard an interview with one of Guiliani's people about abortion. I thought it was interesting--the interviewer was a local conservative who is against abortion. (I steer clear of the terms "pro-choice" and "pro-life," since the pro-lifers like to kill adults, and I've chosen to not be pregnant ever since puberty without ever having an abortion.:confused:)

The aide said that even though Guiliani is considered pro-choice, the abortion rate dropped in New York City when he was there because he was vocal about his pro-adoption beliefs.

Overturning Roe v. Wade isn't going to do anyone any good. It eliminates an option, but only on the surface. Deal with the problem, not the symptom.

It's like the stem-cell debate--it has become an abortion issue, when it shouldn't be. Most of the beneficial research has nothing to do with fetal stem cells...but that's too boring and won't benefit the pro-choice crowd at all.
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SoWal ExpertAuthor
#26
Ironic you should mention this because MANgo and I were discussing this right before dinner tonight. Huckabee wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Where do you draw the line between your religious beliefs and what is the best choice for this countrys' citizens? :idontno:
Good question. I don't have the answer. If you feel that abortion is more important than other issues, and that the next President will be able to set the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade, the answer is easy. If you feel that there are numerous important issues, your decision becomes more difficult.

Some people put God before Country and family, while others put money (work) before everything. Some might even put family first. Then, there are the people who put Country first. Is there any right answer to the order? Other than the exception of money, any could be right, depending on the people answer the question and the person running.

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