A twelve-month long drop in world temperatures erases global warming
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, says the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year.
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=332289
Well, maybe not such good news in some circles:roll:
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Beach Fanatic
Fine. Could you please forward this entire thread to Al Gore so he can redo his Power Point presentation, return his Nobel Prize, and issue a public apology to the World.
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SkunkyAuthor
Fine. Could you please forward this entire thread to Al Gore so he can redo his Power Point presentation, return his Nobel Prize, and issue a public apology to the World.
I suspect he is probably burning jet fuel at 30,000 feet right now, so not too sure he will get it right away, but good idea

Beach Fanatic
In l950 when I attended the U.S. Air Force weather school at Chanute AFB, Ill., we had a Climatology class in the curriculum. If we were told once, we were told 20 times that climate change on our planet is cyclic in nature and has been as long as meteorology records have been kept. Everything I saw while traversing this earth at 20,000 ft. and below leads me to believe this was a correct assumption. Al Gore managed to successfully dupe the American public and the rest of the world, and for it he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Nobel must be revolving in his grave! Regardless, there is enough doubt regarding greenhouse gases causing global warning to cause creditable people to give cause for thought about the theory.
Beach Fanatic
Symptoms of global warming have been cast as increased global temperatures as well as global cooling, increased hurricane/typhoon activity and of course, the bout of recent tornadoes. When one side is permitted to define all the variables, there is no chance of losing the debate.
Meanwhile, a group of prominent Russian climatologists, who believe that our climate is cyclical, predict a thirty five year period of fairly severe global cooling will begin in 2012. I am doing my part to help heat the Earth back up. I have saved my single ply windows, my old inefficient HVAC system and old cans of hair spray which heretofore could have brought the world to an early end.
The real problem with global warming is that it takes our eyes off real environmental problems such as groundwater contamination. Vinyl choride in groundwater is a real issue but such problems have been subordinated to the global warming scare.
Meanwhile, a group of prominent Russian climatologists, who believe that our climate is cyclical, predict a thirty five year period of fairly severe global cooling will begin in 2012. I am doing my part to help heat the Earth back up. I have saved my single ply windows, my old inefficient HVAC system and old cans of hair spray which heretofore could have brought the world to an early end.
The real problem with global warming is that it takes our eyes off real environmental problems such as groundwater contamination. Vinyl choride in groundwater is a real issue but such problems have been subordinated to the global warming scare.
SkunkyAuthor
I am getting warmer by the minute:roll:
SoWal Expert
Hey, maybe the ice caps got colder when the gas prices shot sky high, making people drive less, thereby reducing CO2 build up from the projected targets.
Beach Fanatic
This conversation could go on until hell freezes over. And don't worry. I didn't pop the popcorn in the air machine thereby contributing to the whole global warming thing. I used the exhaust gas from the deneuralizer I keep in the basement next to the snowblower. I bought both from Jeebs after he zapped Tommy Lee Jones.
SkunkyAuthor
Another example of the 'Gore effect'
Snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming yesterday - the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/29/commons_climate_change_bill/

Snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming yesterday - the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/29/commons_climate_change_bill/
SoWal Insider
Another example of the 'Gore effect'
Snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming yesterday - the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/29/commons_climate_change_bill/
Saw that and thought of you

SkunkyAuthor
Saw that and thought of you
I am sure it is because all those melting icebergs are inverting the Gulf stream, or some such poppycock.:funn:
Moderator
All of this in today's news:
First October snow since 1922 blankets London as global warming bill debated...
Switzerland sees most snow for October since records began...
Florida breaks 150 year record...
MIT scientists baffled by global warming theory, contradicts scientific data...
Darn global warming!
First October snow since 1922 blankets London as global warming bill debated...
Switzerland sees most snow for October since records began...
Florida breaks 150 year record...
MIT scientists baffled by global warming theory, contradicts scientific data...
Darn global warming!
SkunkyAuthor
And more...
2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season Withers on the Vine
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/
2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season Withers on the Vine
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/
SkunkyAuthor
And more...
The World Has Never Seen Such Freezing Heat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/16/do1610.xml
The World Has Never Seen Such Freezing Heat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/16/do1610.xml
Beach Fanatic
I just want to know how cold it is going to get tonight in SoWal.
Moderator
Ask Al Gore! :funn:
SkunkyAuthor
We can now strike 'the sea ice is melting' talking point from those who postulate global climate change is accelerating. Won't Al Gore's animated polar bears be happy?:roll:
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834
SoWal Expert
We can now strike 'the sea ice is melting' talking point from those who postulate global climate change is accelerating. Won't Al Gore's animated polar bears be happy?:roll:
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834
Did you happen to catch the show about Glacier National Park? They will have to change the name very soon. The glaciers are almost gone. Melted.
The pics int this article are from 2006-

http://www.livescience.com/environment/060324_glacier_melt.html
SkunkyAuthor
Did you happen to catch the show about Glacier National Park? They will have to change the name very soon. The glaciers are almost gone. Melted.
The pics int this article are from 2006-
http://www.livescience.com/environment/060324_glacier_melt.html
Well, here are real time park webcams. Currently it is -4 Celcius. Brrrrrrrrrrrrr.
http://www.nps.gov/glac/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm
needs to get out more
Well, here are real time park webcams. Currently it is -4 Celcius. Brrrrrrrrrrrrr.
http://www.nps.gov/glac/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm
not real time.
here is real time: http://telluridemountainproperties-west.viewnetcam.com:50001/CgiStart?page=Single&Language=0
SWGB
Well, here are real time park webcams. Currently it is -4 Celcius. Brrrrrrrrrrrrr.
http://www.nps.gov/glac/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm
not real time.
here is real time: http://telluridemountainproperties-west.viewnetcam.com:50001/CgiStart?page=Single&Language=0
All I see is black.
needs to get out more
All I see is black.
it's nite there. check tomorrow.
SWGB
it's nite there. check tomorrow.
Well duh. :roll:
hmmmm......can't remember
Glaciers are melting all over my roof right now. Hopefully my well is filling back up, so I'm happy with whatever reason Gore gives for it.
SoWal Expert
Yes, the sea ice is better than predicted - because nature reacted in a drastically different manner than we have logged in recorded history. I got frostbite in '79 (baby's first Christmas) and this Sunday - doesn't mean that no changes have occurred.
You can post links, but don't be so stupid as to think that we aren't massively (and detrimentally) affecting both the planet, our environment, and our weather. One year's good crop o' sea ice doesn't change that.
You can post links, but don't be so stupid as to think that we aren't massively (and detrimentally) affecting both the planet, our environment, and our weather. One year's good crop o' sea ice doesn't change that.
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