excellent comments hnooe - I was just reading about Ben Franklin today - a real deviant.
look at what he said.
About March 1, 1790, Benjamin Franklin wrote the following in a letter to Ezra Stiles, president of Yale, who had asked him his views on religion...: As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some Doubts as to his divinity; tho' it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and I think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble...." (Carl Van Doren. Benjamin Franklin. New York: The Viking Press, 1938, p. 777.)
don't you think Benji baby would be considered a liberal extreme extraordinaire? talk about progressive.
his story is more than fascinating.
heck, most of our founding fathers were radicals who considered themselves free thinkers and enlightened men. nothing more than deviant liberals!!!
It's a good quote, Tootsie, but Ben Franklin was about as far from a what we call a liberal, today. Here are a few more quotes from Ben Franklin, to give you a better picture:
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.
This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins.
To find out a girl?s faults, praise her to her girl friends. :funn:
Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.
Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.
a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles...is absolutely necessary to preserve the blessings of liberty and keep a government free.
There is no kind of dishonesty into which otherwise good people mroe easily and more frequently fall than that of defrauding the government.