Two Reasons to Question McCain...

I think I will assume the lurk position and see what comes of this.

I think I will assume the lurk position and see what comes of this.

Care for some company.

Care for some company.

Let's make it a party.

Considering the current state of the economy, I would hope he has more than one adviser. My big reason for not voting for McCain is his (self avowed) lack of knowledge on economics.

what wonderful news to contemplate over the weekend. you are such a good witch...

but really.:shock: Jeb. cabinet position. education. stop it. now.

please tell me this is a late april fool's day joke. please please please. I'm giving you a negative rep for joking about something as important as education... ;-)

did you notice our current tanned gov's nose? its looking especially brown lately.

"I love the guy. I just think he's great," said Crist, who has known McCain for two decades. "When it came down to the endorsement decision, so much of it was admiration for his character, his strength, his honesty, his straightforwardness, but in the end I just like him. A lot. I really do."

Considering the current state of the economy, I would hope he has more than one adviser. My big reason for not voting for McCain is his (self avowed) lack of knowledge on economics.

And also for me - the fact that he would keep the Bush tax cuts.


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Honestly, I believe Jeb has intentions to run in 2012 if a Dem wins this round. That sort of totally freaks me out actually.

And also for me - the fact that he would keep the Bush tax cuts.

Are you benefiting from those tax cuts directly? You do realize that you can voluntarily contribute more dollars back to the treasury, just write a check. Are you writing such a check?

Do you feel that government can direct your money to solve a particular problem better than you can by researching for organizations working on that problem and making a direct contribution?

Are you benefiting from those tax cuts directly? You do realize that you can voluntarily contribute more dollars back to the treasury, just write a check. Are you writing such a check?

Do you feel that government can direct your money to solve a particular problem better than you can by researching for organizations working on that problem and making a direct contribution?

I just believe that we should not spend tax dollars that we do not have, then borrow more from our children and grandchildren, so that we can give ourselves a big "Bush tax cut". I am a bit tired of the cut and spend republicans. The current notion that the government should be starved of money while being generous at the same time is bunk. I am not talking about social welfare either, which is barely a blip on the budget radar. The big money is interest on the national debt. If you really want to talk welfare, lets talk corporate welfare.

Borrowing from our children then cutting the education programs that they will need in order to compete to earn and pay back that debt is unforgivable in my opinion.

I have said before that the constituents are the ones truly driving the over spending; elected officials are just supplying the demand so that they get re-elected. So, hold the check writing, no need for that, just hold the personal list of wants and demands and ask your friends and corporations to do it as well.

Now, back to McCain and the two reasons…

While I admire McCain in many ways, the thing that edges me away from him is that the next president will most likely replace at least one Supreme Court justice and quite possibly two. The court is unbalanced as it now stands; McCain would most likely unbalance it even further and that unbalance will last for at least a generation if not more. By unbalanced I mean that it is not evenly divided on its decision in the same manner as the American public is divided on the issue--like the Rehnquist court was split. Tight issues that split the country were often very tight splits on the court.



I must therefore must say that I must add a third reason why one should question McCain.

#1 According to Michael Greenberger, Professor of Law at the U of Maryland School of Law, former Senator Phil Gramm of Texas is advising McCain on Economics..

the same Senator Gramm who tacked on a rider to an Appropriations Bill; the rider, according to Greenberger, is chiefly the cause of the sub-prime meltdown; he calls it the Shadow Finance System--the Appropriations Bill was passed with almost no one knowing the rider was there.

Bill Clinton was also the one who signed off on the Commodities Futures Modernization Act. in December of 2000. His term was until 2001.
Here's a link with an overview of it. It specifically details the exclusions, (pages 5 and 6) but here's a portion:Excluded Commodities are defined to include:(1) an interest rate, exchange rate, currency, security, security index, credit risk or measure, debt or equity instrument, index or measure of inflation,or other macroeconomic index or measure;

so, while we are at it, let's lynch Clinton and Gramm. Only fair.

repubs cut and spend, but don't cut and run......100 years!

repubs cut and spend, but don't cut and run......100 years!

At first I thought you said don't cut one and run.

no, i said i cut when i run!

repubs cut and spend, but don't cut and run......100 years!

Ok what MCain said was, there might need to be USA presence there for 100 years not the USA in combat for 100 years. Then he went on to explain how we have troops in Germany as well as a zillion other places after other conflicts.
I'm not agreeing with him,but I'm tired of everyone misquoting him.
Personally, I'd just love to end it right now and bring the troops home,folks like my neighbor who is on his 4th tour and when he came back from his 2nd was grey headed.
I don't think it is as simple as just setting up a timetable and withdrawing troops.

Ok what MCain said was, there might need to be USA presence there for 100 years not the USA in combat for 100 years. Then he went on to explain how we have troops in Germany as well as a zillion other places after other conflicts.
I'm not agreeing with him,but I'm tired of everyone misquoting him.
Personally, I'd just love to end it right now and bring the troops home,folks like my neighbor who is on his 4th tour and when he came back from his 2nd was grey headed.
I don't think it is as simple as just setting up a timetable and withdrawing troops.

Regardless of whether he was misquoted or not he signed on to this crazy war and that is reason enough for me to NOT want him in office.

Good morning!

Good morning!

POPCORN SO EARLY????

Good morning!

My comment was not supposed to be remotely controversial - I actually have always greatly admired John McCain and his obvious willingness to cross party lines and work in a bi-partisan way with his colleagues. He just lost me after that great old bear hug he gave Bush in 2004 (after the way he was treated by Camp Bush in the 200 primaries!!!) and his vote and position on the war.

I still think he has character and obvious experience and made the best candidate on the Republican side - and I do think he is hard to dislike - I do not remotely dislike him - I am only saddened by his views on a subject important to me.

May I please join the two of you?

Care for some company. [/quot

My comment was not supposed to be remotely controversial - I actually have always greatly admired John McCain and his obvious willingness to cross party lines and work in a bi-partisan way with his colleagues. He just lost me after that great old bear hug he gave Bush in 2004 (after the way he was treated by Camp Bush in the 200 primaries!!!) and his vote and position on the war.

I still think he has character and obvious experience and made the best candidate on the Republican side - and I do think he is hard to dislike - I do not remotely dislike him - I am only saddened by his views on a subject important to me.

I'm now waiting to see "that great old bear hug" Clinton gives Obama after he's nominated at the Democratic convention. Its all politics. And by the way, they all now seem to be millionaires, just from writing their memoirs alone. Maybe we should all write a book.

what wonderful news to contemplate over the weekend. you are such a good witch...

but really.:shock: Jeb. cabinet position. education. stop it. now.

please tell me this is a late april fool's day joke. please please please. I'm giving you a negative rep for joking about something as important as education... ;-)

did you notice our current tanned gov's nose? its looking especially brown lately.

Tootsie, unfortunately not a joke. Let's hope it does not come to be.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2008/04/03/77198flmccainflorida_ap.html

pay particular attention to the title of the publication and the headline--if you need to be convinced Education in this country is in trouble!

Bill Clinton was also the one who signed off on the Commodities Futures Modernization Act. in December of 2000. His term was until 2001.
Here's a link with an overview of it. It specifically details the exclusions, (pages 5 and 6) but here's a portion:Excluded Commodities are defined to include:(1) an interest rate, exchange rate, currency, security, security index, credit risk or measure, debt or equity instrument, index or measure of inflation,or other macroeconomic index or measure;

so, while we are at it, let's lynch Clinton and Gramm. Only fair.

I agree; and any other member of Congress who agreed to this.

Chickpea, I meant nothing by my popcorn. I have chosen to just sit back quietly and watch where this thread goes. Not judging anything.