L'il Pea #1 came home today (from high school) saying two kids in his geography class got in trouble for "smacking" gum. The teacher assigned the entire class 100 sentences--"I will not smack gum in class." #1 thinks it's unfair to punish the whole class, Mr. Pod thinks the punishment is just plain stupid. Teacher says any kid who doesn't do it won't be allowed to start on classwork tomorrow until the sentences are completed. Parents of high schoolers, what do you think?
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55SoWal Expert
A teacher is discipling their class to keep order.
Since their chosen discipline neither singles out a student nor is harmful or illegal, I say you go teacher!
Since their chosen discipline neither singles out a student nor is harmful or illegal, I say you go teacher!

SoWal Insider
That is the easiest high school homework I have ever heard of. Some punishment! Lil pea 1 should be happy for the night off!
SoWal Insider
I think it's brilliant! The next kid that gets caught smacking gum in class will award the class 1,000 punishment sentences and will get pummeled out in the school yard by the rest of the class. It will no longer be a problem after that.
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SoWal Expert
I like the idea. I have stayed after class and written many sentences, but I cannot recall any of them being about gum. Group punishment works in an environment like school or the military. It might be the best method for that particular teacher. Be thankful that the teacher is willing to get the attention of the kids and establish some rules and back them up.
SoWal Insider
I think it's brilliant! The next kid that gets caught smacking gum in class will get pummeled out in the school yard by the rest of the class. It will no longer be a problem after that.
I agree, it sure sounds like the teacher has had it up to here ...
Too bad it's April. This could have been even more effective in October.
Beach Fanatic
Finally, they are teaching handwriting in schools again!!!! :shock:
percyAuthor
I find myself going back and forth on it. On one hand, I feel like--big deal, write the sentences, get over it. On the other hand, I'm just annoyed by it all.
Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
Jesse had to write the dreaded "Gum Report" when got caught chewing gum. It is about a 5 page report all about gum and how it came to be etc. He would have been happy with the 100 sentences. I personally don't think the punishment should apply to the whole class though. Just the one's that were chewing the gum. IMHO.
SoWal Expert
Why are YOU annoyed? You don't have to write sentences. 
I'm guessing the whole class got the punishment because it's a recurring problem that is driving the teacher nuts.

I'm guessing the whole class got the punishment because it's a recurring problem that is driving the teacher nuts.
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SoWal Expert
Peapod, maybe all the parents should write a hundred sentences to the kid who was caught smacking gum, informing the kid that he or she needs to shape up and stop getting the other kids into trouble.
percyAuthor
Jesse had to write the dreaded "Gum Report" when got caught chewing gum. It is about a 5 page report all about gum and how it came to be etc. He would have been happy with the 100 sentences. I personally don't think the punishment should apply to the whole class though. Just the one's that were chewing the gum. IMHO.Right. That's the part that's tripping me up, I guess. And Mr. Pod asked him if maybe this was a case where it's been a problem all year and the teacher was just finally fed up. #1 said no.

I can definitely see, though, that after this kids might think twice before committing the same offense. Might being the operative word.

Beach Fanatic
Well,this opens a can of worms!! As teacher, it always was a complete no-no to punish the whole class. Parents called board members,etc over such !
With that said ,I think this late in the year,just write the lines and be done with it.Teachers and students are plain tired right now and still having to get it full force until after the achievement test in May.
With that said ,I think this late in the year,just write the lines and be done with it.Teachers and students are plain tired right now and still having to get it full force until after the achievement test in May.
Beach Fanatic
This is to sway peer pressure against the ones smacking the gum. They think they are funny and being cool (or whatever it is they say today), but when the whole class turns on them, they find they are not the idols they thought they were.
We've had sentence-writing here too. Not in high school, though that's a thought...:roll:
We've had sentence-writing here too. Not in high school, though that's a thought...:roll:
SoWal Expert
How do you think lil P#1 will write the sentences? the same one word 100 times, before going to the next word, or, the complete sentence, one hundred times?
SoWal Expert
One of the biggest problems my teachers had when trying to keep order in the classroom was that some parents were constantly undermining their authority and removing even the minimal penalties they could still impose for bad behavior.
I bet this teacher would think they won the lotto if 1) they could teach w/o being interrupted by smacking gum 2) their students actually got in MORE trouble when they got home for causing trouble at school
Seriously, if the teacher is at the point of giving the entire class sentences it means there is a behavior issue, not that a kid was caught chewing gum once.
I bet this teacher would think they won the lotto if 1) they could teach w/o being interrupted by smacking gum 2) their students actually got in MORE trouble when they got home for causing trouble at school
Seriously, if the teacher is at the point of giving the entire class sentences it means there is a behavior issue, not that a kid was caught chewing gum once.
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This is to sway peer pressure against the ones smacking the gum. They think they are funny and being cool (or whatever it is they say today), but when the whole class turns on them, they find they are not the idols they thought they were.
We've had sentence-writing here too. Not in high school, though that's a thought...:roll:
I was thinking along those lines, too. When the entire class is put out because of the actions of one, the kids will police each other.
This reminds me of detention at Immaculate Heart of Mary, my kids' alma mater. If a kid was given detention, it didn't involve staying after school. No siree bob. It was at 7:30 am, AND said parent of offending student had to deliver the kid AND sign him/her in. I had to bring Alex in once and I was so ticked at having MY beauty rest disturbed because HE acted like an idiot that I made sure he never felt like misbehaving again. And he didn't. I was punished because he was punished and to this day it steams me up, but hey, it worked. ;-)
SoWal Insider
One of the biggest problems my teachers had when trying to keep order in the classroom was that some parents were constantly undermining their authority and removing even the minimal penalties they could still impose for bad behavior.
I bet this teacher would think they won the lotto if 1) they could teach w/o being interrupted by smacking gum 2) their students actually got in MORE trouble when they got home for causing trouble at school
Seriously, if the teacher is at the point of giving the entire class sentences it means there is a behavior issue, not that a kid was caught chewing gum once.
This is a great post. I still don't have full understanding of the phenomenon described in the first paragraph, but I have seen enough of it to be :shock:. I am starting to see how some teachers can just get desperate, or silly, or just ticked off.
SoWal Insider
Jesse had to write the dreaded "Gum Report" when got caught chewing gum. It is about a 5 page report all about gum and how it came to be etc. He would have been happy with the 100 sentences. I personally don't think the punishment should apply to the whole class though. Just the one's that were chewing the gum. IMHO.this would make the most sense to me. At least the offender might learn something new.
Meow
Wonder what would happen at Belleville East?


percyAuthor
How do you think lil P#1 will write the sentences? the same one word 100 times, before going to the next word, or, the complete sentence, one hundred times?He's been doing complete sentences but is now going to try the one-word-at-a-time method. I suspect before it's over, he may have discovered a third method.

I don't know Kitty. Maybe this is why some people think the new Belleville West looks like a prison.

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SoWal Insider
I find myself going back and forth on it. On one hand, I feel like--big deal, write the sentences, get over it. On the other hand, I'm just annoyed by it all.
Get behind the teacher on this one and let it go. Just tell #1 do the assignment given pronto or you'll add 100 more.
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percyAuthor
Get behind the teacher on this one and let it go. Just tell #1 do the assignment given pronto or you'll add 100 more.Shelly, already did it. Was just getting some input! I'm not one to undermine teachers.
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Beach Fanatic
I've had teachers use this method before...when I was in elementary school.
High school?? That's kind of ridiculous. Surely the teacher can come up with a more constructive way to discipline the class: Taking notes from a recent chapter, copying definitions, even an extra assignment or two. But one sentence over and over 100 times? That's just a waste of time in my opinion. At least in elementary school it helped us perfect our cursive.

High school?? That's kind of ridiculous. Surely the teacher can come up with a more constructive way to discipline the class: Taking notes from a recent chapter, copying definitions, even an extra assignment or two. But one sentence over and over 100 times? That's just a waste of time in my opinion. At least in elementary school it helped us perfect our cursive.
percyAuthor
I've had teachers use this method before...when I was in elementary school.Kase!
High school?? That's kind of ridiculous. Surely the teacher can come up with a more constructive way to discipline the class: Taking notes from a recent chapter, copying definitions, even an extra assignment or two. But one sentence over and over 100 times? That's just a waste of time in my opinion. At least in elementary school it helped us perfect our cursive.
I was hoping you'd show up.Beach Fanatic
Kase!I was hoping you'd show up.
I aim to please!

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