Drudge's headline this morning....
http://www.drudgereport.com/
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That's what all of the talking heads were saying this AM. Congrats, Mr. Obama and your supporters.
For all of the "women's libbers" like me out there who are old enough to remember being discriminated against because we are female, there's always "Hillary 2012"! Or "Condoleezza 2012" -- even better!
For all of the "women's libbers" like me out there who are old enough to remember being discriminated against because we are female, there's always "Hillary 2012"! Or "Condoleezza 2012" -- even better!
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Thanks for posting rapunzel. We're in spain and aren't getting the news! So, it's nice to know that I can count on Sowal to guide me to the breaking news!
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That's what all of the talking heads were saying this AM. Congrats, Mr. Obama and your supporters.
For all of the "women's libbers" like me out there who are old enough to remember being discriminated against because we are female, there's always "Hillary 2012"! Or "Condoleezza 2012" -- even better!
Oh, I don't know about 2012...but how about Brazile 2016.
That woman is my new personal hero.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/brazile-and-begala-angril_n_100500.html
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I just saw the Huffington Post headlines very early this morning, and I am a huge fan of their opinions, and, ...With this being my 1,000 post, I am announcing that I have officially gone into Obama's corner.

Breaking News and Opinion on The Huffington Post


Breaking News and Opinion on The Huffington PostEdited
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I just saw the Huffington Post headlines very early this morning, and I am a huge fan of their opinions, and, ...With this being my 1,000 post, I am announcing that I have officially gone into Obama's corner.Breaking News and Opinion on The Huffington Post
Not so fast-you can't be for Obama unless you apologize to Africa for AIDS:roll:
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Not so fast-you can't be for Obama unless you apologize to Africa for AIDS:roll:
I get what you are saying in your response (from Rev. Wrong ?), but as a gay man who has lost countless of friends and a former partner in the 80's, I will hope he will just go away.
beats on hood
Oh, I don't know about 2012...but how about Brazile 2016.She is pretty darn smart. And from Louisiana.
That woman is my new personal hero.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/brazile-and-begala-angril_n_100500.html

But I'm more of a Republican, in case you haven't noticed. Hillary is the first Democrat I've ever voted for in my entire life. My father would roll over in his grave if he knew I voted for a Democrat.
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I get what you are saying in your response (from Rev. Wrong ?), but as a gay man who has lost countless of friends and a former partner in the 80's, I will hope he will just go away.Not to worry. I bet Saturday Night Live will soon announce that Sen Obama has sent Rev Wright to join the other Reverends Jesse JackSOME and Al NOTSOSharp-ton, on missions to non-existent countries in Africa, to keep them occupied until this election is over. Sounds like Hillary should have sent Bill on a similar mission.
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She is pretty darn smart. And from Louisiana.
But I'm more of a Republican, in case you haven't noticed. Hillary is the first Democrat I've ever voted for in my entire life. My father would roll over in his grave if he knew I voted for a Democrat.
I once voted for Bobby Jindal. ;-)
Sometimes one candidate just transcends party, and we can't help ourselves.
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Yes, but her daddy was a preacher so you better look in that closet! If he was ever inflammatory like Rev. Wright, then that one would be a little bit harder to dismiss.
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Drudge's headline this morning....
http://www.drudgereport.com/
When I see that Hillary needs to lend her campaign millions of dollars it makes me think that:
A) Her campaign is poorly run which makes me question how she well she would do as President...
B) Support is waning for her...
Is there a way that she could just legally foot this bill- give the money to her campaign rather than a loan?
I think a lot of folks out there would admire that and it could sway some needed votes...
If I was a decision maker in her campaign I would have someone "leak" it to the media and coach Hillary to act shy about it and once the story reached a critical mass have her speak out about how deeply she believes in her cause and that she sees it fit to put skin in the game ("How I can I look Americans in the eye and ask them for their support when I myself haven't invested")...
What do you guys think?
GW
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Unless her campaign pays back her personal loan to her campaign, she IS giving the money to her campaign. She only calls it a loan, so that she can get more people to donate, repaying herself. It's not like they need the money, though. She has surely given enough promises that she and Bill can take in plenty of money in any given year.
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Unless her campaign pays back her personal loan to her campaign, she IS giving the money to her campaign. She only calls it a loan, so that she can get more people to donate, repaying herself. It's not like they need the money, though. She has surely given enough promises that she and Bill can take in plenty of money in any given year.
Agreed. But my point/question is-
Do you think the fact that it is called a loan makes her look bad and that if it was positioned as skin in the game that it would make her look good?
G
beats on hood
I once voted for Bobby Jindal. ;-)True.dat
Sometimes one candidate just transcends party, and we can't help ourselves.
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Agreed. But my point/question is-
Do you think the fact that it is called a loan makes her look bad and that if it was positioned as skin in the game that it would make her look good?
G
Maybe it does to some people. But any personal contributions by a candidate are always listed as a loan. I saw when Imfeld dropped out from the local Sheriff's race, he paid his loans to himself back and then distributed the monies to a non-proft. This is pretty much how it is done.
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Agreed. But my point/question is-
Do you think the fact that it is called a loan makes her look bad and that if it was positioned as skin in the game that it would make her look good?
G
How it looks doesn't matter anymore. She's out to recover her losses. That $6.4 million doesn't factor in the millions in unpaid bills she still owes small vendors going back to Iowa. She's going to lose skin, but if she acknowledges how bad her debt truly is, she knows it will be the death knell and she won't be able to raise anymore money, period.
There's a reason she asked for money in the first line of her speech last night. No one, no matter how rich, wants to lose 25-30% of their net worth on a failed candidacy.
SoWal Expert
Agreed. But my point/question is-
Do you think the fact that it is called a loan makes her look bad and that if it was positioned as skin in the game that it would make her look good?
G
No, I don't think calling it a loan makes her look bad, though it does show her cards (the campaign is broke and has no more turnips to squeeze). I don't think the average person even knows that she loaned money to her campaign to help keep her in the game.
For those who keep up with poliTRICKS, they all know that she has milked the deep pockets for all they can legally give, and that Sen Obama, keeps getting new money from new people. He will likely be well-positioned to fight McCain with advertising.
I think many Obama's newness and lack of record scares many voters, but I think that even more voters are turned off by all of the candidates, so it will not surprise me that with their protest against "all of the above," they stay at home and Obama brings home the "W" (w=win, not Bush) in the general election. Conservatives throw their hands up with McCain, and the only way he would win their support would be to pull in a true conservative (fiscally speaking) for the VP. If he did this, it is likely that he would also pull many Independents (formally of the GOP). I think that many people confuse Independents with middle-of the road people, but I tend to believe they are people who feel abandoned by their Party.
SoWal Expert
There's a reason she asked for money in the first line of her speech last night. No one, no matter how rich, wants to lose 25-30% of their net worth on a failed candidacy.
There is another potential reason why she asked for money up front last night. Recently, but too late, her webmaster redesigned her website so that the first thing to pop up was a solicitation for money. Overnight, their income from the website shot up dramatically. If you type in www.HillaryClinton.com, you are automatically redirected to the contribution page, and have to hit a "go to" button to get to her "real" info page, and even on that page, the top thing is a "contribute" button. Makes sense to me. You would think that those little things would be thought out long in advance.
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There is another potential reason why she asked for money up front last night. Recently, but too late, her webmaster redesigned her website so that the first thing to pop up was a solicitation for money. Overnight, their income from the website shot up dramatically. If you type in www.HillaryClinton.com, you are automatically redirected to the contribution page, and have to hit a "go to" button to get to her "real" info page, and even on that page, the top thing is a "contribute" button. Makes sense to me. You would think that those little things would be thought out long in advance.
Now I got to work on redoing my website. Thanks SJ.

SoWal Expert
No problem, but I cannot believe it took Hillary Clinton to show you about fundraising and poliTRICKS. Since Obama seems to have more campaign money, you might want to take some notes from his site, too. His buttons to the main page are silent, hoping that you will click on the donate button when you cannot determine how to see the other parts of the site.
Punzy, Sean Hannity is running out of talk material, today. He sounds desperate, trying to keep Hillary in the race. I think that is a sign that it is over for her.
Punzy, Sean Hannity is running out of talk material, today. He sounds desperate, trying to keep Hillary in the race. I think that is a sign that it is over for her.
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No problem, but I cannot believe it took Hillary Clinton to show you about fundraising and poliTRICKS. Since Obama seems to have more campaign money, you might want to take some notes from his site, too. His buttons to the main page are silent, hoping that you will click on the donate button when you cannot determine how to see the other parts of the site.
Punzy, Sean Hannity is running out of talk material, today. He sounds desperate, trying to keep Hillary in the race. I think that is a sign that it is over for her.
Thanks, but I thought I told you to step away from the am radio, SJ. It's going to rot your brain out.
Anyone else think Hillary is starting to sound like the kid from Better Off Dead?
[nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2C07yRCdT8[/nomedia]
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From Hillary's response to the Press, today, it sounds as though if she doesn't get the answer from the Democratic National Convention Bi-Laws Committee at the end of the month, when they make a ruling on MI and FL, she will take it to the Credentials Committee, and see what they say. She will fight a hard race just like Eight Belles, and in the end go down (politically) after she loses to Big Brown.
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Punzy, Sean Hannity is running out of talk material, today. He sounds desperate, trying to keep Hillary in the race. I think that is a sign that it is over for her.
Hannity may be running out of material but Rush sure has not...

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Hannity may be running out of material but Rush sure has not...
I read today that Rush's "Operation Chaos" accounted for 7% of Hillary's vote last night. She only won by 2%. I bet she is lovin Rush right about now.
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Not to worry. I bet Saturday Night Live will soon announce that Sen Obama has sent Rev Wright to join the other Reverends Jesse JackSOME and Al NOTSOSharp-ton, on missions to non-existent countries in Africa, to keep them occupied until this election is over. Sounds like Hillary should have sent Bill on a similar mission.
No such luck - Big Al just got arrested. :funn:
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