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#453
great song, horrible product

I feel the same way about orange juice. It's loaded with sugar, about 36g per 12 oz. Coke has 39. Calorically, Coke has 140, OJ has about 160. Orange juice is very acidic and causes me nasty stomach distress. I won't touch it with a ten foot pole. I haven't had it in years, and don't miss it in the least. If I were to start my day with a sugar drink, which I'm not, it would be a can of Coke over a glass of OJ any day of the year.

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#454
I feel the same way about orange juice. It's loaded with sugar, about 36g per 12 oz. Coke has 39. Calorically, Coke has 140, OJ has about 160. Orange juice is very acidic and causes me nasty stomach distress. I won't touch it with a ten foot pole. I haven't had it in years, and don't miss it in the least. If I were to start my day with a sugar drink, which I'm not, it would be a can of Coke over a glass of OJ any day of the year.
I have a friend whose business partner flew a charter jet that had just ferried some Coca Cola executives back in the mid 80s timeframe. The friend found a folder that contained in it a study[funded by Coke] of the addictive nature of Coke. The animals in the study were monkeys and were given unlimited access to the product. The study made clear just how addictive the nature of the product was with it's exquisite confluence of dehydrating CO2, sugar, and caffeine and how it made the study subjects shun traditional food for successive "hits" Coke. I would say sugar in our diet is the greatest cause of self induced health issues in this country. Coke is "the" iconic American brand. You most likely know of people who will drink the product throughout the day, but you'd never see the same with fruit juice. Maybe Bob Dylan should sell his soul to Coca Cola instead of Fiat.
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#455
I have a friend whose business partner flew a charter jet that had just ferried some Coca Cola executives back in the mid 80s timeframe. The friend found a folder that contained in it a study[funded by Coke] of the addictive nature of Coke. The animals in the study were monkeys and were given unlimited access to the product. The study made clear just how addictive the nature of the product was with it's exquisite confluence of dehydrating CO2, sugar, and caffeine and how it made the study subjects shun traditional food for successive "hits" Coke. I would say sugar in our diet is the greatest cause of self induced health issues in this country. Coke is "the" iconic American brand. You most likely know of people who will drink the product throughout the day, but you'd never see the same with fruit juice. Maybe Bob Dylan should sell his soul to Coca Cola instead of Fiat.

I used to drink about 72 OZ a day, sometimes as much as a gallon back in college days when I worked in a kitchen. I was bored and it was free. Outside of work i rarely touched the stuff. I didn't put on weight at all. I think the addiction rumors are utter nonsense. I never gave a thought to going without it when the time came. I like to drink other beverages, and variety is the spice of life. Mt Dew was my methadone so to speak. Any addiction potential is probably due to caffeine, which I am happily addicted to but can easily get from other sources. Maybe the good taste of coke has something to do with it too its attraction. I did start to notice that mass quantities would give me this dry feeling in the back of my throat which was easily alleviated by mass quantities of delicious sugary and fruity pastries (also free) of all kinds. I started to cut back on the sugar when I realized I wasn't a kid anymore and figured that if I was going to start to accumulate fat, let it be from wonderful and delicious alcoholic beverages.

I need my coffee no doubt. Always black, no sugar. As for OJ, before I had problems with it I would regularly go to the fridge and chug it right from the carton throughout the day. I loved the stuff and craved it more thanI ever did Coca Cola. Now I only buy coke when it's on sale, and then it's only diet. I don't buy into this crap about aspartame being dangerous. I'm willing to chance it if nothing else. It tastes better than most other diet soft drinks. I don't see coke as being any worse than any other unnecessary nutrient. I say if you're young, drink up and enjoy it, but understand you can't do it forever. As for Bob Dylan, after he went electric at the Newport Folk festival, I knew he would lose all his fans and be long forgotten.
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#456
Oh yeah, here's what I'm listening to. I remember hearing this befor I could even talk.

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#458
Good for him! He can do whatever he wants, he's earned the right.
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#459
On July 21, 2011, Fiat bought the Chrysler shares held by the United States Treasury.[42] With the purchase, Chrysler once again became foreign owned; this time Italian car maker Fiat gained majority ownership and control of Chrysler.[43] The United States government's involvement in the Chrysler bankruptcy cost $1.3 billion.[43] On January 1, 2014, Fiat announced it would be acquiring the remaining shares of Chrysler owned by the VEBA worth $3.65 billion.[44] The deal was completed on January 21, 2014.[45] Several days later, the intended reorganization of Fiat and Chrysler under a new holding company, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, together with a new FCA logo were announced.[46]
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#4601
"The answer my friend is blowing hard in the wind".. this logo ain't fellowship of christian athletes...it's a failed company propped up by tax dollars and private equity vermin and then sold to Italy.
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#461
Bob Dylan could kill puppy dogs and I wouldn't have a problem with it because he's Bob Dylan.
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#462
I think the folks at Fiat realize this.
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#463
They are still made in America. I would imagine there is still plenty of American line management, although I'm not sure that's such a good thing. I've never been keen on American cars, even though I've owned more than a couple. I've also never cared for Chrysler. Bob Dylan could market his brand of high fructose GMO corn syrup to diabetic toddlers and he would still have my undying devotion.
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#464
I guess I see the micro-virtue in percentages, but that's a stretch. What is uniquely American about a failed and bailed company taken over by private equity and sold to the highest bidder from Europe? Do you hear me Budweiser? Bob Dylan gets no passes here because he needs cash flow. I get the same nausea watching Samuel Jackson(150 million net worth) push plastic servitude to pad his one percenter bank account. http://www.goiam.org/index.php/imai...er-kills-pensions-for-8000-salaried-employees
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#465
While I'm certainly no Dylan-worshipper, I think he pulled off something unique: a commercial that's also a work of art. You walk away, wondering what it really was about. Was it about Fiat? Was it about America or American workers? It was poetry and promotion at the same time. In the end, it seemed to be an advertisement for Dylan more than for Chrysler, and to pull that off is pretty cool. Actually, it's kind of the same for Sam. He's just showing us he can come off as the ultimate cool badass even if he was reading the phonebook. These two guys have perfected their personas and gotten multi-nationals to pay them bonanzas to make commercials of themselves.
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#466
I agree LVT. While it might have been specifically a Fiat commercial, it was a shout out for American automobile manufacturing in general. His roots are in that general area of the country as well. I don't doubt Dylan's sincerity. Bob Dylan could market high interest loans to unemployed single mothers and he would still have my backing, because he's Bob Dylan.
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#467
I agree LVT. While it might have been specifically a Fiat commercial, it was a shout out for American automobile manufacturing in general. His roots are in that general area of the country as well. I don't doubt Dylan's sincerity. Bob Dylan could market high interest loans to unemployed single mothers and he would still have my backing, because he's Bob Dylan.
At what point do you say,"hey that's Bob Dylan trading his legacy for shekels"
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#468
While I'm certainly no Dylan-worshipper, I think he pulled off something unique: a commercial that's also a work of art. You walk away, wondering what it really was about. Was it about Fiat? Was it about America or American workers? It was poetry and promotion at the same time. In the end, it seemed to be an advertisement for Dylan more than for Chrysler, and to pull that off is pretty cool. Actually, it's kind of the same for Sam. He's just showing us he can come off as the ultimate cool badass even if he was reading the phonebook. These two guys have perfected their personas and gotten multi-nationals to pay them bonanzas to make commercials of themselves.
I see it as "come buy a car that is made by American(sometimes) workers" that ultimately benefits a foreign corporation that has put it's employees last. I can see however that the message is compelling on the surface.
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#469
At what point do you say,"hey that's Bob Dylan trading his legacy for shekels"

When the shekels come rolling in. Maybe his new target is mindless cynicism from hipster posers.

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#470
When the shekels come rolling in. Maybe his new target is mindless cynicism from hipster posers.
it can't be millenials...
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#471
I remember an old classic clip of Dylan as a youth, when he was asked by a clueless reporter whether he thought of himself as a singer or a poet, and he said he thought of himself as a song and dance man. He was kidding, but he wasn't. It's called show biz , and whatever image we want to project on these idols , we got to accept that they don't have to accept it.

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