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Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET News

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.
They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.



The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.
"I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. "It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill."
Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.
A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president's power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.
When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records," Rockefeller said.
The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government's role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is "not as prepared" as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.
Rockefeller's revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a "cybersecurity workforce plan" from every federal agency, a "dashboard" pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a "comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy" in six months--even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.
The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. "As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue," he says.
Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to "direct the national response to the cyber threat" if necessary for "the national defense and security." The White House is supposed to engage in "periodic mapping" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies "shall share" requested information with the federal government. ("Cyber" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)
"The language has changed but it doesn't contain any real additional limits," EFF's Tien says. "It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)...The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There's no provision for any administrative process or review. That's where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it."
Translation: If your company is deemed "critical," a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.
The Internet Security Alliance's Clinton adds that his group is "supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective."


Yet another finger in another pie :bang: and perhaps another unvetted czar???

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Geo avatar
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Socialism
LuciferSam avatar
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Socialism

What will that crazy Kenyan think of next?
sunspotbaby avatar
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the president would have the ability to shut down the internet? that's a bit disturbing to say the least.
Danny Burns avatar
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It's a form of fascist communism I'm sure of it! I'm soooo afraid!!
LuciferSam avatar
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the president would have the ability to shut down the internet? that's a bit disturbing to say the least.

To Obama, the Internet is nothing more than a virtual Grandma. He just pulls the plug.
Geo avatar
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My understanding is that he is building a database of anyone who doesn't worship him and that he will be able to use his powers to turn off the internet just for those individuals. It's a fact that his administration already did this with the water companies in one area of the country. I received an e-mail about it today.
Geo avatar
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To Obama, the Internet is nothing more than a virtual Grandma. He just pulls the plug.
:clap:
:floor:
LuciferSam avatar
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To Obama, the Internet is nothing more than a virtual Grandma. He just pulls the plug.

:clap:
:floor:

I worry sometimes his foot is going to hit the rocker switch on the power strip.
Geo avatar
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I worry sometimes his foot is going to hit the rocker switch on the power strip.

Ah- that Krazy Kenyan!
Bob avatar
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is there a tie in to the patriot act?
LuciferSam avatar
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Ah- that Krazy Kenyan!

That "Kwazy Kenyan" says Elmer Fudd.
Geo avatar
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is there a tie in to the patriot act?

I have a great idea (inspired by you).
Let's start a viral e-mail campaign.
Take the patriot act language and intro it with a paragraph that frames it as something Obama is introducing.

How scary will the right think that thing is if it is being introduced by a black nazi socialist???!!!!!

:clap:
30ashopper avatar
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Socialism

blind faith?
Rita avatar
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My understanding is that he is building a database of anyone who doesn't worship him and that he will be able to use his powers to turn off the internet just for those individuals. It's a fact that his administration already did this with the water companies in one area of the country. I received an e-mail about it today.
:lol:
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I guess that one got deflected before it got to me .... :biggrin:
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lerxst avatar
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I Wonder how much the New FCC chief diveristy officer Mark Lloyd has to do with this? Why all of a sudden Obama "we're so sorry for everything no more war on terror" is worried about cyber attacks??
Geo avatar
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blind faith?

The thread on religion is down the hall to the right.

I kid, I kid...

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Winnie avatar
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blind faith?

Depending on who is President.
Beach Fanatic
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Socialism



No, this is more like facsism or communism.:angry:
Gidget avatar
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For those who want to prevent this from happening I ask : Have you written your senators? That would be the best way to approach your objection.(Remember: it?s just a bill, and one that has already been revised in the past few months. Don?t be surprised if nothing at all comes from all of this.)

Oh an IMHO it is in times of emergency when we need our internets most. I don't understand any rhyme or reason behind a shut down. Shutting down planes is one thing but communication is vital. But OMG if you google this topic you will see how many many many sites are saying OBAMA WANTS TO CONTROL THE INTERNET! Let's be level headed about this and express our opinion in a way that gets results, not hysterics.

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Andy A avatar
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For those who want to prevent this from happening I ask : Have you written your senators? That would be the best way to approach your objection.(Remember: it?s just a bill, and one that has already been revised in the past few months. Don?t be surprised if nothing at all comes from all of this.)

Oh an IMHO it is in times of emergency when we need our internets most. I don't understand any rhyme or reason behind a shut down. Shutting down planes is one thing but communication is vital. But OMG if you google this topic you will see how many many many sites are saying OBAMA WANTS TO CONTROL THE INTERNET! Let's be level headed about this and express our opinion in a way that gets results, not hysterics.

G
It might turn out to be a good thing. There is so much misinformation on the internet that possibly it would do no harm. Not only that, it would be free to be used by the government to filter out non wanted information, collect intelligence and not have to worry about all the nonsencical and rumor which normally floats around the iternet. Of course, what would we do about the rest of the world use? I'm sure we could find a way to control that, too.
Well, whatever our esteemed Congress and Executive branch decide is quite alright with our citizenry.
As for me personally, I lived quite well before it and can live quite will without it, though I would miss SoWal.:D
TooFarTampa avatar
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Here's a nice nonhysterical take on the bill by Marc Ambinder. It raises some interesting questions about national security.

Maybe the White House should have this power in extreme emergencies, but it had better be clear about what those emergencies entail, and it had better accept accountability if it oversteps its authority. There is, aside from the obvious definitional issues, an inherent trade-off in codifying this power, and it's going to be tough to find a balance that satisfies everyone.
On Cyber Bill, Skepticism Warranted -- But Nuance Needed - The Atlantic Politics Channel

Keep in mind, this kind of law would grant such powers to all future presidents too, not just Obama. Ambinder compares it to the power to clear the U.S. airspace (utilized on 9/11), but acknowledges it is more complex.

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